Building a Mountain rifle need help

[Marriedman1]

Ok i am planning a build on a small action and trying to choose barrel contour an a stock. On the Stock i need it light weight( Bell and Carlson mountain or on a HS Precision or a HI TECH ) Or what ever i can find......Wanted to run a # 2 Contour but if i use a HS the barrel channel is bigger like a # 3 or 4.....What to do?????? Ok Clarification Note: It is with a Rem Short action and will be a 284 Win caliber with a Kiff reamer that is throated at .090 for the 140 accubond bullets.

Looking for a light barrel contour but one that will present some accuracy.

 

[Longshot38]

Re: Building a Mountain rifle need help

Why not try something like a Remington Varmint contour? My next rifle will be a lighter weight hunting rifle. I'm looking at something with a muzzle diameter of about .750. That coupled with a light stock should get you into the 10lbs ballpark.

 

[brdeano]

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Just one question, your obviously trying to go as light as possible so why the #2 barrel? Go Mountain Rifle contoured. Most barrel makers will dupe the Rem Mtn Rifle contour for no extra cost. I have a Stainless PacNor 25cal 1-10" Rem Mtn Rifle contour sitting here that will soon be a 25-284. Ordering a duped factory contour also makes it easier to fit to stocks. You also can sell the stock easier if you have to.

I have a 700 243 with a 22" Rem Mountain Rifle contour barrel in an ADL McMillan Mtn Rifle stock. Depending on glass, the rifle goes from about 7-7.25#'s all up ready to hunt. Right now its wearing a 1" tubed, turreted 3.5-10x40 Leupold in Talley LW's.

If I wanted the MOST bang for my buck I'd drop a 21"-23" Rem Mtn Rifle contour in an ADL B&C TI stock. When my rifle wore jthe TI stock it was 6.75#'s all up with a fixed 6x42 in Talley LW's.

The B&C Ti stocks are great for the money if lightweight is what you want. Stocky's stocks has them in stock (no pun intended)

http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/StoreFront

2950 is the ADL version. The other versions are BDL and are heavier before you even add bottom metal. ADL is the way to go if you are wanting simple and lightweight. IMO. Good luck.

 

[brdeano]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Longshot38</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why not try something like a Remington Varmint contour? My next rifle will be a lighter weight hunting rifle. I'm looking at something with a muzzle diameter of about .750. That coupled with a light stock should get you into the 10lbs ballpark. </div></div>

It would, but the balance would be way out of whack and be a muzzle heavy SOB. Balance goes a long way in how a rifle points/feels.

 

[Longshot38]

Re: Building a Mountain rifle need help

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Brad Arnett</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Longshot38</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why not try something like a Remington Varmint contour? My next rifle will be a lighter weight hunting rifle. I'm looking at something with a muzzle diameter of about .750. That coupled with a light stock should get you into the 10lbs ballpark. </div></div>

It would, but the balance would be way out of whack and be a muzzle heavy SOB. Balance goes a long way in how a rifle points/feels. </div></div>

To each their own. To me a 10 pounder is a lightweight rifle. But that is just because most of mine come between 15-20 lbs. But you are correct. If you are looking to lighten things up shorter w/ a smaller muzzle diameter is how to do it.

 

[brdeano]

Re: Building a Mountain rifle need help

you're right, 10#'s isn't THAT heavy, but a very light stock with all the weight out front wouldn't feel right....for me.

My 243AI is built with a RockCreek Rem Varmint Contour at 24" and fluted, it's in a standard filled McMillan A5. With Steel HS bottom metal and 30mm Mark4 the balance isn't horrid and it's right around the recoil lug and just slightly muzzle heavy. The bare rifle is around the 9-10# mark that your looking at.

 

[spswatip]

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This guy has done work for us and he makes some super light mountain rifles and super light stocks. Don't know exactly what you are looking for or what price range but in case you are interested:

http://home.earthlink.net/~oregunsmithing/index.html

 

[GUNNER75]

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What caliber? A few items that may be helpful.

-Remington "magnum" barrel contour. (similar to a Remington "#2" but with a strait taper in the chamber area.
-Fluted barrel.
-Better yet, this contour in a carbon barrel!

-B&C 2462 (short action) and 2461 (long action) would be my choice for a BDL, blocked stock. With the contour above, it will drop right in w/o issue. NOTE: this stock has psi pads at the tip of the forearm, if sanded out, the stock will eat the barrel severely and will take quite a bit to make it float.

 

[Switchblade]

Re: Building a Mountain rifle need help

My choice for a hunting rifle leans toward a .308 with a medium weight barrel cut to 18" in a McMillan HTG with an edge lightweight fill, and a Leatherwood Hi Lux Scout Scope(only because JBWIII/US Optics hasn't yet made a LER scope to mount in the 'scout' location). So long as weight is lower than about 8 or 9 pounds that's fine as it still beats carrying a totally kitted M4 or M16(11#)
The Remington 788 is darn close to a great start, and the new 20" SPS is pretty darn close too

 

[knockemdown]

Re: Building a Mountain rifle need help

Rem Model Seven action, AWR stock, #3 contour 22" tube, 7mm08 caliber. Slap a little 3-9x (or the like) scope on there, go forth & kill stuff with your new 7 lb. baby...

 

[-=boone=-]

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CZ 527 / 7.62x39

I actually considered this for a long time. Some of you are blessed by your geographical location with wide open spaces. I am not. Primarily hunting in thick timber where your longest shot will be 100 yards, why carry a .308 or 30-06? To me your mountain rifle or hunting rifle should be dictated by your location.

 

[Wardy]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: knockemdown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rem Model Seven action, AWR stock, </div></div>


I'm sorry, but, what is "AWR" or who makes it? Buddy of mine has been lookig for a different stock for the Model 7..other than laminate.

Ward

 

[GasLight]

Re: Building a Mountain rifle need help

A custom mountain rifle contour barrel will perform just fine. As long as you aren't trying to fire 5-shot rapid fire strings, it will be an excellent choice. You can look at LoneWolf stocks in Columbia Falls, MT, they make some very lightweight stocks. In the future I am going to build an uber-lightweight rifle, hoping to be under 5 pounds scoped. Should be a fun rifle.

DD

 

[Marriedman1]

Re: Building a Mountain rifle need help

I called loneWolf stocks and they will only sell a stock if they bed it... Ill just use something else. no need to pay that much to bed a stock.

 

[GasLight]

Re: Building a Mountain rifle need help

didn't realize that... that will make me re-think them as a choice as well. I wonder if it has something to do with how light they make them and the structural integrity...

Anyway, maybe a Manners UL Hunter?

 

[bcw1284]

Re: Building a Mountain rifle need help

manners ultralight
MCM htg in EDGE is right at 2 lbs, IIRC
B&C Alaskan Ti stock

all good choices, the B&C will be the cheapest and easiest to get ahold of some time this century. But if you are willing to wait, you can go high end.

 

[Marriedman1]

Re: Building a Mountain rifle need help

Yea i like the Manners but the guy at HS just called me back and said they have a new stock called the PSS-094 that they are building there light weight rifles on and it has like a #1-or 2 barrel channel in it and weighs like 1 3/4lb for under 300 so that me be all me....Now to find a #2 barrel in 7mm..

 

[bcw1284]

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that's interesting, i'll have to check that out. I have liked all my other HS stocks, might like that one too.

 

[TORKAR]

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Just built a stainless 300 RUM hunting rifle. #2 contour in a Boyd's feather weight thumb hole stock with Remington DM bottom metal. Cheap project, gave the smith $260 for the work on the stock which included glass bed, fit bottom metal and make a custom ss muzzle brake. Got the barreled action on gunbroker (never fired) for $200, stock from Boyd's unfinished laminate was $69.00.

Still looking for a scope though...

 

[dinosdeuce]

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I had a light weight rifle built by High Tech Custom in Colorado Springs. 7mmWSM in a Model 70 action, Lilja barrel 24" (don't remember the contour), MPI Thumb hole Stock topped with a Nikon Monarch. Weighs just over 6 1/2lbs. Wanted a rifle for high country hunts. The only comprimise I made was a 24" inch barrel. I originally was going with 22" for the weight, but was advised to get the most of the 7mmWSM a 22" tube would not be worth it. I'm glad I listened. I may just draw a goat and sheep tag one of these years. I am very pleased with the quality and accuracy of this rifle.

 

[greentimber]

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Mtn Rifle contour bbl (around 2 lbs) & Hunter's Edge stock (21 oz)

I have a stainless Rem mountain rifle in an EDGE that weighs 5 lbs 4 oz before scope. Couldn't be happier.

 

[pat4668]

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hey glowworm, i just recieved my mcmillan stock and will be selling my hs precision stock thats from a remington 700p in a 308 cal,towards the middle of febuary since im having everything swapped over to my mcmillan, the hs stock its got 3 studs for bipod and sling im leaving on it i can throw the triggerguard and floorplate in for a few extra bucks but let me know, by the way the color of the stock is matte black. thanks pat

 

[bcw1284]

Re: Building a Mountain rifle need help

a 700 police is not exactly "light weight" Pat, probably not a good choice for a mtn rifle, lol. I use one on my light tactical rig, and it's not exactly light either.

 

[pat4668]

Re: Building a Mountain rifle need help

well i think the stock isnt that heavy and depending wut he wants to put on it might be but my mtn rifle weighs 11ibs

 

[knockemdown]

Re: Building a Mountain rifle need help

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wards75</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: knockemdown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rem Model Seven action, AWR stock, </div></div>


I'm sorry, but, what is "AWR" or who makes it? Buddy of mine has been lookig for a different stock for the Model 7..other than laminate.

Ward</div></div>

AWR is an acronym for Remington's Alaskan Wilderness Rifle stock. Used to be made my McMillan for them, now I believe by B&C. They are kevlar/aramid fiber. Very lightweight and slick handling...

Both of these are a tad over 7lbs, scoped & loaded with an AWR handle...

 

[DAVETOOLEY]

Re: Building a Mountain rifle need help

McMillan Rem Spoter stock, edge technology for weight savings inletted for your barrel contour.
#3 barrel, short cylinder section, 22" long
extended mag box
Talley light weight rings

Everything is a compromise and nothing is free, you reduce weigh you're reducing accuracy at the time.

I don't think I would want to shoot it much in a 284Win but it would be a nice carry gun.

 

[ArcticLight]

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Just buy a Rem 788 and call it a day.

 

[MontanaMarine]

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Or a Kimber Montana.

 

[THUNDERBOLT68]

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well, here is an awsome mountain rifle already built in 6.5 x 47 lapua weighs just over 5lbs. doubt you will get lighter.

 

[Davy]

Re: Building a Mountain rifle need help

I don't know what game you are after but my go to rifle for long treks in steep country wether it be for elk or deer has become my Remington model 7 stainless synthetic in 300Rem.SAUM.It is light,short,weather resistant,and capable of taking large or medium size game accurately at long or short range. And believe it or not has very little recoil.

 

[montana3gunner]

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I love my McMillan EDGE stock. (BDL - style).

If you are interested in McMillans, check their website for their "in stock" items/returns/etc. I lucked out and got a BDL one day.

Also, I found an EDGE on gunbroker, bought it off of a gunsmith down South. Don't remember who it was, wasn't cheap.

#2 contour should be plenty light I would think, but you could find some that are thinner.