Burglars Stumble Upon Man's Child Porn Turn Him In

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Cliffs:
-2 burglars stole broke into barn and stole 500 CD's
-30 of the CD's contained child porn
-burglars turn in owner
-owner arrested
-burglars NOT arrested.


Two burglars looking for blank CDs in California instead found a man’s child pornography stash and turned him in, Fox40 Sacramento reported Wednesday.
One juvenile and a 19-year-old broke into Kraig Stockards barn in Delhi, Calif., on Sept. 12 and stole 50 CD-Rs, which Stockard later reported stolen.
"I'm kind of surprised that he wanted to draw attention to himself, knowing what was taken," Deputy Tom McKenzie of the Merced County Sheriff's Department told Fox40.
When the pair took the CDs home to burn music, they discovered that more than 30 of them contained child porn.
They reported the contents of the discs to the sheriff’s department.
"[A] family member convinced the two suspects to come forward, they contacted law enforcement," McKenzie said.
Investigators served a search warrant on Stockard’s property and found three desktop computers and three laptops. It’s unknown what those computer contain, but authorities believe Stockard has been downloading the images and movies since 2004.
He was booked into jail for possession of child pornography and posted his $25,000 bail.
The two people that found the pornography were not arrested for the burglary.
"We did not actually go out and arrest the suspects for the burglary. They were obviously the lesser of two evils," McKenzie told Fox40.
The burglars' case has been turned over to the Merced County District Attorney’s Office for review.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shankster</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
"We did not actually go out and arrest the suspects for the burglary. They were obviously the lesser of two evils," McKenzie told Fox40.
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Cool! So as long as somebody is committing a worse crime, I'm good to go.

Let the crime spree begin.
 
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The County attorney will decide it. Most likely offer a plea deal quietly.

But you know what? I'd much rather have 2 burglers on the street, than one child molesting perverted sick-o. I can fortify and defend my home and property. I can't always be there to watch over my kids.
 
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Total BS. Yes it is good that got that sicko. So is there an online conversion for this. Who do I have to find to allow me to steel stuff. OK a child porn person. Who do I have to find to allow me to car jack that new car I want? Both are criminals and should be punished.
 
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I would give them a pat on the back, an atta boy and then throw them in county for a month. Congratulations, you are still a dirtbag.
 
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I believe coming forward with what they found was the right thing to do. Breaking into and stealing someone else's property is wrong. I’m sure the two kids know that. I like to think the kids had the fortitude to accept facing the punishment for what they did while serving the greater good and turning in the pervert.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kenda</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I'd much rather have 2 burglers on the street, than one child molesting perverted sick-o. I can fortify and defend my home and property. I can't always be there to watch over my kids. </div></div>

Looking at porn is a big jump to molesting (or any other violent crime). Are the police just so busy that they couldn't just charge both the kiddie porn guy and the 2 robbers. Just call it "time served" or something. The kiddie porn guy probably isn't going to try and break into my house and get shot, but the other 2 may. Better to be in jail or on probation than to be dead on the inside a house.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shankster</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
"We did not actually go out and arrest the suspects for the burglary. They were obviously the lesser of two evils," McKenzie told Fox40.
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Cool! So as long as somebody is committing a worse crime, I'm good to go.

Let the crime spree begin. </div></div>

Hell yeah, find a major coke dealer and steal some of his shit. New car, and he gets prison. Winning
 
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Delhi is not know for its upstanding citizens, neither is Merced though. They are both shitholes, and I have a lot of family in Merced, including people in the SO. Im not suprised they arent doing anything about the robbers, they dont do anything as it is.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: maxpower220</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Looking at porn is a big jump to molesting (or any other violent crime). <span style="font-weight: bold"> Are the police just so busy that they couldn't just charge both the kiddie porn guy and the 2 robbers.</span> Just call it "time served" or something. The kiddie porn guy probably isn't going to try and break into my house and get shot, but the other 2 may. Better to be in jail or on probation than to be dead on the inside a house. </div></div>

Bolded part, they are VERY busy, I dont know if the DA will do anything, the county is beyond flat broke, they are laying people off left and right in Merced. DA and Public Defenders office are both stretched thin. I hope they hang the kiddie porn guy, the robbers should get a little time.
 
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So the victom gets his kiddie porn off the computor. He's a sick bastard and a pervert and he broke the law. Yes he could go on to be a child predator, but last I checked, you have to commit the crime to be charged with it. As far as we know he didn't have any contact with children, he just collected child porn off the computor. The prosecutor has all rights to prosecute and the evidence is admissable.
The 2 little darlings broke into someone's home to steal, and knew what they wanted, which means they had premeditated their actions to invade someone elses home with intent to commit a theft. They are thieves and burgalars and an immediate threat to the public safety. The prosecutor has the right to prosecute them, and their testimony and evidence is admissable.
All three need to be prosecuted, not one, not two, but all three. They are all dirt.
 
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Sturmead, I really don't get your reasoning. You said he "just collected child porn...."

Where exactly do you think that shit comes from? How do you think it appears/materializes. You think Pixar has a multi-bazillion dollar industry to make it all 'computer generated'?

Re-establish your priorities, please. There ain't no 'just' involved here.

As to the two thieves... well that's what chain-gangs are for. I've always maintained that. Municipal Road Repair, AND it lowers property taxes.

Could also be looked upon as a deterrent, eh? It'll never take on. Because it makes too much sense.
 
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yes they are dirt bags for breakin into someone elses property, but it almost sounds like a couple of u guys are defending the pervert, which maybe im just tired or misunderstanding u, but as stated earlier just having it is a felony, and im sorry if u get your rocks off on that then u will mess with kids, I dont care what you say you are a sick perverted shit bag, no excuse period

AirborneRanger
 
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So....Lets say a prosecutor has tried to bust the guy but could not for whatever legal reason.

send in two dirtbags, evidence is now admissable without a search warrant...

If it were ANYTHING but Child porn I'd be calling BS on it but in that case I'm VERY glad he got busted....

But the burglars should still get the conviction, whether they do time or not I don't care, but the conviction on their record will satsify me.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alderleet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hell yeah, find a major coke dealer and steal some of his shit. New car, and he gets prison. Winning </div></div>

I gotta be honest, when I went through my divorce and bankruptcy in the 1990's I was sitting at a stoplight in Seattle, watched a guy flicking a lighter, did a quick deal - two bike cops came by and he stuffed the lighter in his pocket (The sign that he was dealing I guess).

I saw that the coke was in the left pocket of his jacket, right pocket was the cash.

I went and got a can of pepper spray and was going to take him down and steal his money...

Honor got the best of me....I didn't want a record and there had been a few people that did this and got busted.
 
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It seems there is more wishful thinkng here than reality based thinking. Posession of child pornography is one of those crimes that no municipality takes lightly. The article said this guy was collecting this crap as early as 04. 30 CDs worth is ALOT!. Each photo and video will be considered 1 count of posession against him. Not to mention the poor fuck that has to go through this shit and tally the numbers. One silver lining would be if the person reviewing these disks sees the owners face in one. This is not uncommon either, and that will get him an additional charge, and additional time. This pedofile WILL do prison time, and he WILL be required to register as a sex offender. I dont need Miss Cleo and her psycic friends network to see that coming.

As for the two burglars? Odds are the value of what they stole, their ages, and any prior criminal records will be considered in how the DA handles this. I agree with Kenda on this. There are much worse folks out there, and one of them is now off the streets. I have a feeling that the burglars will see probation, the 19 yr old will get some county time. The case will be plead down to lesser charges as leniency for the outcome. The justice system is all about compromise, only crimes of a high profile get the trial time folks want to see.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sean the Nailer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sturmead, I really don't get your reasoning. You said he "just collected child porn...."

Where exactly do you think that shit comes from? How do you think it appears/materializes. You think Pixar has a multi-bazillion dollar industry to make it all 'computer generated'?

Re-establish your priorities, please. There ain't no 'just' involved here.

You either did not read my entire statement, or you missunderstood it. I did not say that the possession of the child porn was no big deal. I was trying to point out that he only possesed it and was not making it nor was there any evidence that he was abusing children. Other than collecting images (which is NOT a victimless crime) he was not an active pediphile out trying to booger your kid, and until he does he is only guilty of POSSESSION of child porn.
The 2 kids on the other hand are active thieves, and it seemed as if the kids were getting a pass on their crime while everyone wants to hang the guy for having unlawful pictures (by the way, the Supreme Court of the U.S. has ruled images like drawings, paitings, etc. not actual photos are legal to posses).
Think about it this way, who would you rather live next door to; the guy who keeps kiddie porn on his computor but commits no other crimes, or 2 active thieves? At least the sexual offender will have to register his whereabouts, thieves don't have to.

As to the two thieves... well that's what chain-gangs are for. I've always maintained that. Municipal Road Repair, AND it lowers property taxes.

Could also be looked upon as a deterrent, eh? It'll never take on. Because it makes too much sense.</div></div>
 
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If the guy were an actual molestor, I'd say of course he should take priority in prosecution, but in this case we have 2 guys breaking and entering into a home and stealing; to me that is a big indication that those guys pose a much more active threat to society than a guy who has been collecting illegal images for 7 years without actually escalating into molestation. YMMV
 
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As a side note. Something I picked up on in the article, but wasn't stated as fact; it seemed that the 2 burglars knew that the DVDs were in the house and possibly knew where they were. This would lead me to believe that the 2 had been in the house before, probably as quest. If this is the fact, then the burglary victim probably is an active pedophile, especially if there are other indicators such as toys, video games, or other items that would be atractive to kids inside the house. IF this is the case and it wasn't stated, then the 2 burglars are heros for helping to stop a pedophile.
Just the facts mam.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SturmHead</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As a side note. Something I picked up on in the article, but wasn't stated as fact; it seemed that the 2 burglars knew that the DVDs were in the house and possibly knew where they were. This would lead me to believe that the 2 had been in the house before, probably as quest. If this is the fact, then the burglary victim probably is an active pedophile, especially if there are other indicators such as toys, video games, or other items that would be atractive to kids inside the house. IF this is the case and it wasn't stated, then the 2 burglars are heros for helping to stop a pedophile.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Just the facts</span> mam. </div></div>

That's a whole lot of assumptions with no facts at all
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SturmHead</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> then the burglary victim probably is an active pedophile

2 burglars are heros for helping to stop a pedophile.

Just the facts mam. </div></div>

Those are some MAJOR leaps.