Can anyone here say if the standard (non-tree) SCR reticle in the 3.3-18 is usable at low power? I'm seriously considering picking up one from Camera Land at that price. It has the potential to be a good crossover scope.
Rifle Scopes Burris XTR3!!!
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I have two XTRIIs that are hunting rifle specific with the SCR. I love that reticle for hunting. Its plenty thick without being obnoxiously so, and takes illumination well.
If the XTR 3i is available for $999 then it has just made A LOT of optics invaild.
I hope they are going to produce a lot of these.
I kinda wish they'd do a 30mm tube verison (or atleast a similar scope in 30mm) but at that price I can spend some money on replacing all my scope rings.
It's not the new illuminated one its just the XTR 3, but still an amazing price !
I do think illuminated will be close to that number. A $1200 MAP should be fairly close to $1k on the street.
Looks like its a super sale on the Greely made scopes, I wonder if they are doing a few final runs before swtiching to the Phillipine made XTR3is.
Either way if the US made scope is selling for $1200 then the XTR3i should/could be much closer to $1000.
WIth the price increase on Vortex scopes I wonder if the PST Gen2 will see a hit in sales.
Seems like Vortex PST and Razor, and Athlon Cronus and Ares will be somewhat destroyed by the XTR3i at those street prices.
They were sitting on a bunch of non illuminated XTRIIIs to blow out. Production and the necessary tooling switched over to the Pro months ago in Greeley.
Looking at the reticle choices listed on the Burris webpage, they will only be offering the illuminated 3.3-18 with the MOA SCR and the SCR2. If that's the case, this may be the last opportunity to get the MIL version of the non-tree reticle. Now what the heck do I do...
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It's possible that others reticle offerings will open up down the road. But that seems to be the two they are rolling out for now.Looking at the reticle choices listed on the Burris webpage, they will only be offering the illuminated 3.3-18 with the MOA SCR and the SCR2. If that's the case, this may be the last opportunity to get the MIL version of the non-tree reticle. Now what the heck do I do...
In my humble opinion, they should offer the SCR Mil in that optic. And possibly the Quarter Mil or Tremor 5.
I might have to wait on a Pro and get another one of these, paid more than that for my used one...
If anyone is looking for glass, there is nothing out there to compete with this for $1000.
@Birddog6424, Sounds like you should tell your buddy to take your own advice? Or does it only apply selectively, like his critique for where products are made?
Its weird how we have plenty of product reps on this forum, yet only one brand rep that needs to constantly get their panties in a bunch over asking questions and lash out at buyers (in this AND other threads).
Careful, DT will call you names then tell you that you're not worthy of owning a burris because nothing they do could possibly be improved and how dare you think otherwise
Seems to happen often enough that even others are making a joke of it. Imagine being this afraid of shoppers simply asking questions.
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Imagine being a grown man (maybe a poor assumption?) and worrying about whether or not someone prefers American made products.
Dorgan is a brand rep, I doubt he had input to Burris on moving production elsewhere.
This is feeling a lot like cancel culture. #hashtagcanceldorgan. Seriously, we get it though, take your liberal cancel culture bullshit to a new thread if you feel that strongly about this topic.
Dorgan is a brand rep, I doubt he had input to Burris on moving production elsewhere.
This is feeling a lot like cancel culture. #hashtagcanceldorgan. Seriously, we get it though, take your liberal cancel culture bullshit to a new thread if you feel that strongly about this topic.
There's this handy button called "Ignore" when you click on someone's name on the left, I've only had to use it for a few people since it came about, but it's really convenient for those who just want to cause trouble. Some people have a bad day, get drunk or what have you, and they usually come around, while others seem to just spew their toxicity no matter what.
I missed the part where I said he should be cancelled? Seems like you're the only one who's actually promoted that so far. All I did was point out that he's a hypocrite on the product origin subject, and asked if he was going to apply those same beliefs to their new non-US made products.
I didnt demand or even suggest at any point that anyone even NOT buy Burris. I even think the current prices for the outgoing XTR 3 is a steal, and recommended it in another thread when someone said an inferior scope was the "best offering" in the sub $2000 price point, regardless of their brand rep thinking he should attack anyone who remotely questions Burris's decisions or products. I came in here and asked a simple question, and somebody decided the only way to answer it was to have an aneurysm. Thats outside of my control.
Sorry if I dont blindly worship the people you do. Haven't done so this far, and not planning to start anytime soon.
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I don't blindly worship anyone in this thread, or any others or anywhere for that matter. I don't know or care that you recommended a burris in another thread. Do you want a cookie for that or looking to be the next sponsored rep?
I don't own a Burris of any kind. I am not a fan boy and don't know Dorgan or Ja at all. I take all their comments with a bigger grain of salt than anyone else's here (no offense Dorgan and Ja). I care about performance and am here to find out about that. I do not make decisions on buying whether or not my favorite brand influencer has on opinion on where it is made. Where it is made, is where it is made. Be an adult and use that to buy what you want.
Your simple question was if someone was going to join you in the China loving threads. He responded and said no. Neither person is changing their opinion. It is clearly personal at this point and not related to the Burris XTR3 product. Take it to PM's if its personal. Should be end of story. You shitting in this thread for as long as you have is not serving any purposes other than your own.
My simple question is what's your goal is here? What do you want out of this? Clearly it is not to get a simple question answered because you already have. Either you are here to effect a company's sales or like to troll and want to infect the forum with cancer.
My blood pressure is just fine and nothing someone says on the internet is going to change that. I apologize to the other members which now have seen two more unneeded posts feeding the troll. I will take Glass's advice and go for the Ignore button.
I don't own a Burris of any kind. I am not a fan boy and don't know Dorgan or Ja at all. I take all their comments with a bigger grain of salt than anyone else's here (no offense Dorgan and Ja). I care about performance and am here to find out about that. I do not make decisions on buying whether or not my favorite brand influencer has on opinion on where it is made. Where it is made, is where it is made. Be an adult and use that to buy what you want.
Your simple question was if someone was going to join you in the China loving threads. He responded and said no. Neither person is changing their opinion. It is clearly personal at this point and not related to the Burris XTR3 product. Take it to PM's if its personal. Should be end of story. You shitting in this thread for as long as you have is not serving any purposes other than your own.
My simple question is what's your goal is here? What do you want out of this? Clearly it is not to get a simple question answered because you already have. Either you are here to effect a company's sales or like to troll and want to infect the forum with cancer.
My blood pressure is just fine and nothing someone says on the internet is going to change that. I apologize to the other members which now have seen two more unneeded posts feeding the troll. I will take Glass's advice and go for the Ignore button.
You sound confused. If I'm here to "effect" the company's sales or troll, why would I recommend them in another thread?
Some basic reading skills would go a long way here. My "simple question" was how this scope compared to a few other models in the price range. Me asking him if his POV on China has changed by now, was in relation to the response he had about Chinese production making other brands inadequate.
You would certainly be a lot less confused if you didnt respond at random and miss the entire point.
Can we get a TLDR on this thread? Too time consuming to make sense of what's what with all the silly bois making noise.
XTR Pro is being made in the US, in Colorado?
There is some supply left over on US Made XRT IIIs (see eurooptic and cameraland), but production has been moved to Asia.
Is that correct?
XTR Pro is being made in the US, in Colorado?
There is some supply left over on US Made XRT IIIs (see eurooptic and cameraland), but production has been moved to Asia.
Is that correct?
Basically how I understand it
XTR PRO = Greeley Colorado
XTR3I = PHILLIPINES
XTR PRO = Greeley Colorado
XTR3I = PHILLIPINES
And all glass is Japanese. Old 3 glass assembled in CO is same as new 3i glass assembled in Phi. Pro glass is supposedly a noticeable step up (I'm thinking along lines of G3, but haven't seen it), and again assembled in CO. Reticles are all illuminated and are a bit thicker (noticeably, but supposedly not obtrusively). And finally the fancy turrets on the Pro.
Have we heard yet when we expect to see XTR 3i's in the wild yet? Don't know if I can resist a non-illuminated model anymore at the CameraLand price.
Just my opinion, and this is what I have done. The American made one is a proven quantity. Buy the American made one from Camera Land and wait for the illuminated ones to get out in the wild and make sure they are good to go before the supply of American made ones dry up.
Did just that a couple hours ago. Called before I I did, they are expecting to get them in mid to late next week.
Its going on a hunting rifle, but not one I expect to take close shots with - therefore I shouldn't be on minimum magnification, and maybe illumination won't be a big deal then? Never had an XTR II or III, excited to get one to play with though.
You bastards! $$$
I could not resist getting a Greeley CO made version at this price.
I could not resist getting a Greeley CO made version at this price.
Dear Burris-
I realize you are based out of CO and the intern in charge of the specs on the webpage may be partaking for medicinal purposes, but please spend two minutes and correct the errors on the spec sheet.
I have a XTRIII on the way and am rather excited about it; however, I can’t help but feel like I’m buying a knockoff leuppy from a Chinese eBay seller based on the lack of accuracy in the specs on your own website.
Thanks (if you fix the errors).
@Birddog6424
I realize you are based out of CO and the intern in charge of the specs on the webpage may be partaking for medicinal purposes, but please spend two minutes and correct the errors on the spec sheet.
I have a XTRIII on the way and am rather excited about it; however, I can’t help but feel like I’m buying a knockoff leuppy from a Chinese eBay seller based on the lack of accuracy in the specs on your own website.
Thanks (if you fix the errors).
@Birddog6424
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Would also like the reticle information to make sense, it's a complete mess with no consistent layout to the subtension drawings.
Still have not had it confirmed if the SCR2 is a different thickness between models and a Burris rep told be the illuminated reticle was the same thickness as the non illuminated, which based of DTs pictures is not true.
That's why the XTR IIIi is cheaper, it's really a 3.3-1.8 LPVO
Yes, I get you, bugs the heck out of me when the manufacturer lists incorrect specs
Spend enough time pouring over specs at gun-maker's and optics websites and you'll find plenty of typos and copy conflicts. It's everywhere, really. Just read any news story these days, and it's pretty rare if you don't find that it contains obvious grammatical errors. It seems nobody wants to pay for copy editing any more: "Nah, that's not too important, just do the best you can. We'll publish it anyway." The Idiocracy may be arriving sooner than expected.
/rant off
It’s already here. My daughter’s class was the first one in the school district that didn’t teach spelling. Who needs to do that when there’s autocorrect? Mmmhmm. Let’s just say that the kids are lacking in proficiency in spelling and correct usage and context of some words. Just read here and you’ll know what I’m talking about.." The Idiocracy may be arriving sooner than expected.
/rant off
You could be the smartest MFer in the room but if you can’t spell and know the difference on how to use there, their and they’re…
$999 for the 3.3-18x SCR mil is a heck of a deal. I’d buy one but then it’ll turn into another rifle…
soooooooooon.
Id say a date but some panties might get in a bunch if its not met.
Will post as soon as I hear anything concrete tho. I heard they are arriving in CO this week or the next, but I do know that as soon as the scopes arrive here, each and every one is opened, inspected, and resealed and that may take a week or 2 as well.
Pretty excited for an illum 3-18 for half the price of an illum Mk 5 3-18 to put on my hunting rifle. Should be a big seller. And Im a fan of the Mk5. I own one.
GL
DT
