^999? I happen to love the thinness of the SCR2 mil. The illuminated version is going to be thicker. So I justified the risk of having 2 more of the old ones, even if more expensive. Once I get my equipment sorted, I expect to keep it for decades, assuming I live that long, so the additional amortized cost of switching things out is inconsequential. Also, don't remind me of this post when I'm switching all my scopes out again in a couple of years.
Rifle Scopes Burris XTR3!!!
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I sent and email this morning to see if there is anything I could do on my end to fix it...They just sent me a return label..So I guess there is nothing I can do. The wait time is 2-4 weeks..I have to see when i can send it and miss the least amount of matches just in case it turns into 4 weeks.
Not directly from Burris but a vendor here on the Hide has said that the MAP on the XTR3i will be 1200 for the 3.3-18 & 1400 for the 5.5-30
Nice. Sounds like you may be able to buy them under $1k? Definitely have to try one out at that number.
Seems like a great value. I was “in” even at an expected price increase of 1-2 hundred for illum. Should be a pretty easy sell with a price decrease, excited to compare with my g2 razor.
Normally it would force the price of non-illuminated models down; however, non-illuminated were assembled and had some parts machined right at Burris factory in Greeley CO, while illuminated models are being done in the Philippines, some people will prefer USA versions so only time will tell.
Buy a regular 3 from Natchos while they still have them, or buy a Pro when available. There is no better value in the marketplace.
edit: Natchos out of stock again... will see if my order gets filled
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For those super secret types who got to play with the preproduction phillipines version does it hold up to the US version? I know that quality products can be made over there, but the OG XTR3 was razor/NXS quality.
These are now listed on the burris website. Link for the 3-18: https://www.burrisoptics.com/scopes/xtr-iii/xtr-iii-illuminated-3.3-18x50mm
MSRP is ~ $550 less than the non illuminated version, supposedly in stores March of 2022.
@gr8fuldoug will you be getting these in March?
MSRP is ~ $550 less than the non illuminated version, supposedly in stores March of 2022.
@gr8fuldoug will you be getting these in March?
Yeah, if that ends up being the case, that sucks. However, I'd like to see the SCR 1/4 Mil in thisNo more regular SCR mil...
Discussed some, but only subjectively in the thread... yes, out of necessity, and it is noticeable, but barely.
Really the only complaint that I can see people having is the + in the middle of the SCR2. Seems most like dots and complain, as in the case with the original AMG. I don’t mind it, way easier to quarter a target. If it stays the same quality as the original 3, which it should, it’s going to be one of the best budget scopes out there.
Don't have a problem with SCR2, more the options they've left out.
If the SCR2 1/4 Mil is the new hotest, why not offer that as well?
Why offer the SCR in MOA and not Mil, or why not do a MOA version of the SCR2.
If the pro is now the super dooper competition scope, why not offer a thicker reticle in the 3.3-18 so it appeals for other uses.
If someone wants the cleaner SCR 1/4 in their competition gun and a matching reticle in the 3.3-18 on an AR or hunting rifle then they are shit outta luck.
Leupold has gotten a lot of shit for releasing the cleaner PR2 reticle (something a lot of people wanted) but not offering it in all their Mark 5 models.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not angry just disappointed.
I get they are probably trying to limit the number of sku's to carry. To me they should just kill the XTR2 line and then expand this new XTR3i line. Maybe time will tell, I wouldnt mind the SCR mil illumated in addition to my current XTR3.
I love mine. The tree completely disappears when I’m not using it. Would totally recommend spending some time behind it. SCR for hunting all day lol
I'm 100% convinced this mag range needs a reticle that is atleast .04mil thick, up to .05mil.
I get that the XTR3 is a competition scope so in theory a thin reticle is better, but I don't see why you would need a scope with less than 5x that has a reticle that is that thin.
I get the theory that for hunting you'll only be using the reticle on 3.3x for very very close shots on big animals but this is a symptom not a feature, a properly sized reticle would be capable of much more than that.
For example; I shot a 22lr event with my PST Gen 1 2.5-10 due to varitety of gear failures that meant I had to peice together a rifle and scope combo. I shot in a class that required lots of fast shooting at very small, close range targets and the scope was bloody awesome.
The reticle being .06mil thick meant I could actually use it on 2.5-4x on very very small targets an could easily use all of the reticle holds at 5x.
I think I shot the whole course of fire at less than 6x other than a KYL rack, any other scope I would've used would've been a minimum of 6x due to reticle thickness.
I do a lot of small game hunting/shooting and find the .06mil reticle perfect for that too, .06mil would be too thick for the 3.3-18 but around .04 and .05 would not be.
Maybe Burris is coming out with a new hunting scope line to replace the Veracity line and will meet this need but I just can't help but think a thicker reticle in the 3.3-18 has plenty of benefits and zero negatives (other than maybe production cost/simplicity).
My SWFA 5-20 is .05 and my XTR2s are .05 according to Burris and the reticle is easier to see in the SWFA. We need a crossover scope that’s usable on the lower end. Athlon is getting there with the Helos 2-12.
Getting there yes but not perfect. Center dot is too big for longer range. Wish they’d make it anywhere besides China as well.
I agree on all. That dot is huge. I need to compare glass in shitty light, unfortunately our weather has been very clear and sunny.
Ignoring the 2-10 XTR2, the Burris aiming cross thicknesses are:
SCR MIL XTR2 15x: 0.04
SCR MIL XTR3 18x, XTR2 20x & XTR2 25x: 0.03
SCR MIL XTR3 30x: 0.02
SCR2: 0.02
I'd like to see the 18x at 0.035 - 0.04 mil width.
I noticed they didn't have the SCR option with the pro either. Maybe it just wasn't super popular, but I have one and like it.
3.3-18 XTRIIIi listed on Eurooptic at $1199.00 NOT IN STOCK YET!
https://www.eurooptic.com/Burris-Xtreme-Tactical-XTR-III-Scopes.aspx
https://www.eurooptic.com/Burris-Xtreme-Tactical-XTR-III-Scopes.aspx
How is the SCR2 Mil reticle in use? Does the grid get in the way? I’m not usually fond of grids/tree
My usual disclaimer applies - please do NOT use these images to judge IQ of the scope, these are through the scope images taken with my DSLR which rarely is perfectly aligned with the optics inside the scope, these images are to give an idea of how the reticle looks at different magnifications. Keep in mind this is the non-illuminated SCR2 reticle and the illuminated version may differ slightly in thickness.
Well I was wanting one for a crossover hunting scope...want the regular SCR for that.
All my scopes are MIL. I can use both, but like to keep it uniform.
Heard Burris started making scopes in China. I guess you'll be joining the rest of us in the China love threads now?
I guess now we find out if your word is bullshit, or if you're going to follow through with it, and dump Burris due to their newfound love for China too. Hilarious how life works.
I’ll send you the $5 once the thread title with the American flag next to Burris gets corrected to reflect the Filipino, Japanese, and Chinese flag as well.He just said that stuff to make you mad...
I bet him it wouldn't work. Now I owe him five bucks. Thanks for that..
EDIT; I have to add though, the RT Series scopes that are produced for them out of China are 3 or 4 years old now. The RT Long Range Series over a year old. So its hardly newfound love. We have to be honest in assigning blame, the American scope buyer is the one creating so much demand for their products
No point in hiding the entire countries of production, if he’s that proud of it
Especially after him foaming at the mouth over the production country the last time this was brought up.
Might as well bring the laptop and phone to the range and shoot them too, or are we only concerned about production origin when it’s convenient to support an already weak argument?
I love my cheap China Athlons too, loved the ares enough to add a Cronus after too. Loving it even more after comparing it the Burris III xtr side by side.
How’s that illumination working out? Maybe they’ll figure out how to add that feature in the Philippines?
Blaming the buyer in any of this is just shifting the blame to avoid reality. Maybe look to the company that decided to ultimately make their products in China in the first place instead of shifting the blame on that one?
I guess Burris decided that being made in America was less important than a profit margin.
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WTF does the cheap low end Burris stuff have to do with the USA made Burris stuff. They are two separate lines just like every other scope company produces. Burris has long been producing certain lines outside the US so what is your point.
The foreign lines still come from the same Burris company, and the person I'm responding to made it a point to go on a rant about foreign production, pretending that Burris somehow was above the practice (including making scopes in China, supporting CCP), then in the new XTR thread changed their messaging entirely to talk about how Burris scopes made in the Philippines will be the same great product, at a lower cost.
I prefer my hypocrites to be consistent with their POV, not changing their script whenever it benefits the product they're promoting.
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