Bushmaster ACR??

#2
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lol just saw it finally on gunbroker for 8,500. Im sorry but this thing has been nothing but a clusterf*** for years. In my opinion it is more over hyped than a certain current politician.

I have a LWRC 10.5 M6A2 that does its job damn well. I cant see myself an assualt rifle for more than 3K.
 
#3
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I've been pulling for it since it was unveiled as the Masada years ago.

However I, like many others, was really put off when it finally showed up a pound heaver than expected and at twice the price.

Bushmaster took a lot of good will and anticipation for a weapon that could have stormed the market and managed to turn it into anger and dissapointment as they chased a non-existant military contract.

The Cerebrus will continue to chug along but the Bushmaster brand may never recover.
 
#4
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It was supposed to be $1500 and should have been available years ago....$1500. That is a high price. The actual price is $2700 for a starter kit....if the gunshops don't mark it above MSRP. That is just crazy for a rifle with an unremarkable plain jane barrel. What is the heart and soul of a rifle? The barrel (and a good chambering). One of the things I was most excited about was the ability to use precision AR barrels on this rifle. Did that pan out? Don't think so. A custom AR with top-flite barrel is looking better all the time.
 
#7
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ajb008</div><div class="ubbcode-body">lol correction its up to 15K on gunbroker.</div></div>

It does come with Magpul MBUS backup sights you know, that's why its 15k.

Guys must be screwing with the auction, no way it's legit.
 
#8
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It's a phenomenal weapon system... well, the magpul / remington versions are
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If you want one, I suggest you enlist into the military and somehow manage to get into a unit that will be using the ACR when remington starts their distribution.

I believe the ACR is only being made in batches right now.. I assume bushmaster just wants to gouge people for all they can get.

^^^ Never buying a BM.
 
#9
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This video pretty much sums up how I feel about the Bushwhacker ACR.

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#10
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It has to be a scam on gunbroker, Tacticaltink is the seller and claiming this is the first model ever made for the public, and the only bidder is donw78006 who bid against himself from 8,500 to 15,000. Something about that smells a bit shitty.
 
#11
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Had a good friend shoot one of these, compared it to his AR15 droped off a cliff about 20 times and ripped of all oil. I liked the idea of a modular assault rifle. When I read that it was goign to be capable of 5.56, 6.5, 6.8, 7.62x39 I was really excited. Now it only does 5.56 and 6.8. Then theres the issue with 1:7 twist, which they say they are going to make a production batch of 1:9, and they say the barrel doesn't need a chrome line because it uses a special alloy or some nonsense. It went from a iconic rifle (Masada) to a pitiful excuse of a weapon (ACR) I hope Rem fixes it up and sells it to public along with the msr *crosses finger*
 
#12
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I handled one a SHOT this year and the first thing I noticed was the weight. I own a SCAR as well as a few ARs and the ACR felt heavier than all but my Mk12 Mod1 build. The stock seems more robust than my SCAR, but I overall I wasn't blown away with the ACR. Maybe if they get a 1:7 barrel, an SBR option (which the SCAR sorely lacks) and get the price down to around $2k for the railed version I might become interested.
 
#14
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15K won't do it - reserve hasn't been met. What's crazy is that the guy got in a silent auction for 7K or less and at twice what he paid, the reserve hasn't been met.

THAT is what type of guy wants and sells the ACR
 
#15
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WillardCW4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's a phenomenal weapon system... well, the magpul / remington versions are
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If you want one, I suggest you enlist into the military and somehow manage to get into a unit that will be using the ACR when remington starts their distribution.

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What in the monkey hell are you talking about?

How do you know it's phenomenal? Nobody owns one yet.

And out of curiosity, what military unit is beng issued or is planned to be issued this particular piece of vaporware? Enlighten us.
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#18
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I bet there isnt a unit even planning on using this. Bottom line is although the many imperfections that the M-4/M-16 has, its still better than what every other NATO country is using.

My M-4 at work has always done its job, and my personally owned ones are even better. 15K+ is an insult to post up for sale.
 
#19
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: edwordsigh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This video pretty much sums up how I feel about the Bushwhacker ACR.

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LMFAO, robinson arms can go eat a dick too, they endorsed the AWB pushing romney.

And i guess cross ACR off the list, have to get another POF or more ammo with that money.

-dan
 
#21
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the guy auctioning it is from fla no wonder hes asking 15k i grew up there and left went to the carolinas people there have no idea when it comes to money lmao fla lifestyles of the rich and not so infamous just look at tiger woods lol i could buy a dozen or so better rifles for 15k
 
#22
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I feel that I have a responsibility to interject at this point....

Jesse James, is the owner of the first public Magpul Masada. He is a good friend of mine, and a good guy all around.

Don't be confused, this rifle on Gunbroker is not a Bushmaster ACR, this is straight from Magpul. It is a 1 of 1 rifle.

I know this is a crappy iPhone pic, but Jesse had this gun at the Orlando gun show this weekend. Here is a pic of me with it:

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(this is not the way I hold my AR, I was just feeling the magazine well grooves)
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He already has a buyer for the gun, hence the reserve, but he told the collector he promised to give the public a chance to purchase this rifle.

I agree that is a travesty what Cerebrus has done to the ACR. Alike many others, I was hoping to own one, but at the current MSRP, they can kiss my a$$. Try again...
 
#23
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I'll be the dissenting opinion here.

IMO, it's light-years beyond the SCAR in ergonomics and proper design. People complaining about it, generally speaking, haven't had the opportunity to see one in person.

The price may be high, but given time it's inevitable that it will drop. Despite the denunciations from the usual corners of the internet, my bet is that five years from now it'll be comparable in price and availability to the Sig 556.
 
#24
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SPDSNYPR</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WillardCW4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's a phenomenal weapon system... well, the magpul / remington versions are
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If you want one, I suggest you enlist into the military and somehow manage to get into a unit that will be using the ACR when remington starts their distribution.

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What in the monkey hell are you talking about?

How do you know it's phenomenal? Nobody owns one yet.

And out of curiosity, what military unit is beng issued or is planned to be issued this particular piece of vaporware? Enlighten us.
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On paper, its a phenomenal weapon system... I'm allowed to pre-judge the product, especially since we won't be able put our hands on one for months to come and there has been hype about the product for years.
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As far as the military distribution, I don't know of any specific unit that has plans to be issues the ACR. I doubt it will be any time soon, but the fact that Remington (opposed to Bushmaster) is producing the weapon for 'government sales' tells me that they will likely sell them to the govt. --- the military. Now the trick is to get the govt. to spend money on the system... which, in our current political state, might take a while.

"Made in the USA for government sales..."
http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/acr.htm#/intro

I was being very sarcastic when I made the comment about enlisting in the military to use an ACR... simply pointing out the fact that Bushmaster is being stupid by making the weapon nearly impossible to obtain and put it at a ridiculous price-point. If you want to be 'realistic', it could take just as long for the military to start using remington's ACR as it would for the BM version to hit full-scale production and come down in price... time will tell.
 
#26
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">handled it at shot, very overrated and far too expensive.


rather have a SCAR </div></div>

Reasons?
 
#27
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WillardCW4</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">handled it at shot, very overrated and far too expensive.


rather have a SCAR </div></div>

Reasons? </div></div>

Sorry, thought I stated that. It's expensive as hell and for that money for that much (actually less) I'd be getting the already combat proven SCAR. Which felt much better in hand anyhow and is coming from a company that puts out some damn fine firearms for our military for quite a while now.

When was the last time FN released a piece of shit?

2700 for one version and like 3300 for the other version of the ACR.

Really? jesus christ you've got to be kidding me. I'd pay 1500 for the ACR on a really generous day, if that.

I'd also think the fanboys would be much more excited about H&K's civvie version of the 416.
 
#30
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Taterxl</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A gun shop here in town got one and I was able to handle it and wasnt overly impressed with it for the money. Id prefer a scar or XCR for the money. If the ACR dropped in price to what they originally said I might pick one up. </div></div>

A gunshop in ID has an ACR and is letting customers handle it? How and where? Did you mean that it has SCAR? If some random gunshop has an ACR, the guy on GB wouldn't be getting bids for over $15,000.00 for his if you could walk in somewhere, finger an ACR and if you liked it, buy it at a gunshop.
 
#31
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I think J.J. is a genius! I read somewhere that he bid something like 7500-8k at the silent auction for the rifle. Now it looks like he will bank more then twice that. He knows that the ACR is not as good as a SCAR and now can sell the ACR to someone who will just put it in a glass case to look at and then buy a SCAr with the tremendous profit he will make. Just good smart business. I wish I had bid 8500-9k to have done the same thing.
 
#33
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dtask</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Taterxl</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A gun shop here in town got one and I was able to handle it and wasnt overly impressed with it for the money. Id prefer a scar or XCR for the money. If the ACR dropped in price to what they originally said I might pick one up. </div></div>

A gunshop in ID has an ACR and is letting customers handle it? How and where? Did you mean that it has SCAR? If some random gunshop has an ACR, the guy on GB wouldn't be getting bids for over $15,000.00 for his if you could walk in somewhere, finger an ACR and if you liked it, buy it at a gunshop. </div></div>

Why cant any old place have one? Some shops have been on the order sheet for nearly a year. My store got two in the day after Bushmaster said they had shipped out to dealers. I had mine at home shooting it 3 days after they were officially released. My local shop still has one in stock.

I think you need to rethink your statement above, because ANY shop thats on the pre-order list can have one. Don't count out the little mans shop, they usually have the best stuff.
 
#34
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WillardCW4</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">handled it at shot, very overrated and far too expensive.


rather have a SCAR </div></div>

Reasons? </div></div>

Sorry, thought I stated that. It's expensive as hell and for that money for that much (actually less) I'd be getting the already combat proven SCAR. Which felt much better in hand anyhow and is coming from a company that puts out some damn fine firearms for our military for quite a while now.

When was the last time FN released a piece of shit?

2700 for one version and like 3300 for the other version of the ACR.

Really? jesus christ you've got to be kidding me. I'd pay 1500 for the ACR on a really generous day, if that.

I'd also think the fanboys would be much more excited about H&K's civvie version of the 416. </div></div>

I've got a 416 upper. nothing to get worked up about, trust me.
How is the SCAR battle proven? What battles has it seen and proven itself in?

The ACR is leaps and bounds over the SCAR. You cant change the SCAR's complete setup within about 2 minutes. The ACR is adaptive and quick change everything. I have put about 500 rounds thru mine at this point with no cleaning, and its suppressed. Still runs like a champ. I have had only one stovepipe on me and that was from a mag that had seen a LOT of suppressed fire that day, it was clogged up and not wanting to feed, not the rifles fault.

ACR is the better rifle.
 
#35
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HiTechTactical</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I feel that I have a responsibility to interject at this point....

Jesse James, is the owner of the first public Magpul Masada. He is a good friend of mine, and a good guy all around.

Don't be confused, this rifle on Gunbroker is not a Bushmaster ACR, this is straight from Magpul. It is a 1 of 1 rifle.

I know this is a crappy iPhone pic, but Jesse had this gun at the Orlando gun show this weekend. Here is a pic of me with it:

e57f3fce-1.jpg
(this is not the way I hold my AR, I was just feeling the magazine well grooves)
3ff252bf.jpg


He already has a buyer for the gun, hence the reserve, but he told the collector he promised to give the public a chance to purchase this rifle.

I agree that is a travesty what Cerebrus has done to the ACR. Alike many others, I was hoping to own one, but at the current MSRP, they can kiss my a$$. Try again...

</div></div>

Jesse James? The turd bag that cheated on Sandra Bullock?! Tell him to kiss my A$$ and Ill take Sandra off his hands for him!
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#37
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Wrong Jesse James cuz.....

He also had some new ACRs this past weekend at the Tampa gun show. I hate to say this but I like the ACR over his actual Magpul Masada. The ACR seemed balanced versus his muzzle heavy Masada. I'm sure the rail is the culprit.

I will buy an ACR when a good deal comes along. I like the platform. I still want to wait until there are some quality barrels available at a reasonable price. I don't think the ACR will hold as good of groups as a good barreled AR.
 
#38
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYshooter338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why cant any old place have one? Some shops have been on the order sheet for nearly a year. My store got two in the day after Bushmaster said they had shipped out to dealers. I had mine at home shooting it 3 days after they were officially released. My local shop still has one in stock.

I think you need to rethink your statement above, because ANY shop thats on the pre-order list can have one. Don't count out the little mans shop, they usually have the best stuff. </div></div>

They can...now. When I wrote what you quoted later, the gunbroker auction was either ending or had just ended and most hadn't seen an ACR on <span style="font-style: italic">any</span> gun shops shelves.

I don't discount the little man's shop by any stretch. I own one.
 
#39
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I found mine in a small shop right on the SD/Minnesota border, Just walked in there bought a light for my pistol and after he rung me up he asked if there was anything else I needed. I said, "you guys don't have an ACR do ya?" He said that he did and now I'm a little poorer....
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