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What power was that taken withA quick pic on 4in and 10in steel at 300yds. This isn't the best since I didn't use a phone skope but you get the idea. It's pretty good.
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I think it was 40x but can't remember as it was a random pic.What power was that taken with
I went through 2 of them, now the one I have is really good. I ordered another one just to have a back up & I shoot with friends & family so this gives eyes to another spotter. We also have the kowa 88mm so we would have a good reliable spotter. They do break down but bushnell got me new ones in 2 weeks or less, so for the price I’m contentHad a couple of these eat shit in the field. Moved up the the Bushnell Elite that's Japanese made, and the Leupold MKIV.
I had high hopes for the Legend, and as long as it lasts its great.
I may have missed it, but just curious of what was wrong with those 2?I went through 2 of them, now the one I have is really good. I ordered another one just to have a back up & I shoot with friends & family so this gives eyes to another spotter. We also have the kowa 88mm so we would have a good reliable spotter. They do break down but bushnell got me new ones in 2 weeks or less, so for the price I’m content
The main focus went out on the first one & the second wouldn’t focus well at all the reticle focus was built incorrectly, you could turn it far right & barely past the center left. The main focus is just glued on so I probably could have just reglued the main focus which seems to be a common problem with them coming loose. The one I have now is seems better than the other 2 I had in getting a nice clear view. My cousin bought his right when they came out & he uses his almost every day & no problems & he got a good one too with a little less edge distortion than mine.I may have missed it, but just curious of what was wrong with those 2?
So far mine is great, so anything to look out for?
Yeah mine appears to be a good one as well, but thanks for that info.The main focus went out on the first one & the second wouldn’t focus well at all the reticle focus was built incorrectly, you could turn it far right & barely past the center left. The main focus is just glued on so I probably could have just reglued the main focus which seems to be a common problem with them coming loose. The one I have now is seems better than the other 2 I had in getting a nice clear view. My cousin bought his right when they came out & he uses his almost every day & no problems & he got a good one too with a little less edge distortion than mine.
I have the Bushnell and love it, but my new Vortex Viper HD 15-45 is definitely better in terms of clarity.I was shooting the other day in the mountains with my son ( actually coyote hunting).
We had our ar's. No luck so we were setting there having lunch and I said set up your spotter cause I want to shoot.
I pick out a small rock and range it. 954 yds. Get my dope and send one. He couldn't see the splash. I was way off!
Finally he seen a splash and tried to give me corrections. He was using his Vortex Razor15-45x65.
I told him to set up my Legend and give me solid corrections. 3 shots and we were on.
We then started to compare scopes.
It was a beautiful day with good sun light and very little mirage.
We both agreed there was practically NO difference between the two except mine had the reticle.
Under different conditions ( low light, haze, etc. The Vortex would have probably held the edge but not that day.
The golden ring hd is even better than the mk4. If I was thinking about upgrading, I would pass on the mk4 & go with golden ring hd, the hd glass is very good & has a more noticeable difference vs the bushnellMine had the reticle pop out and go on vacation inside and the second one lost its sealing integrity while moving the focus. You can tell when it does that because there will frequently be clear lube dots on the inside lenses.
I will say the leupold mk4 spotter was a bit better in clarity
I’m a bit late to this post but as of now , do you still like this optic how is it performing so far ?Haha that's $750 Canadian... So $570USD. Plus last thing I need is Canadian Customs charging me until the cows come home.
Absolutely, I still have the same spotter, and it has performed flawlessly.I’m a bit late to this post but as of now , do you still like this optic how is it performing so far ?
Decided to resurrect this thread. From what I am seeing it looks like they started great, QC took a dump, then they are back to being ok as of the latest posts. Overall what is the consensus, good value or chill a little longer and get a LMSS?
Ability to pick up trace and mirage are my key requirements along with some sort of a reticle. I've also been looking at the Razor line with the eyepiece but have never been behind one. Let me know what you think of the LMSS.I've found mine to be decent, been using it for a bit over a year, I think. It doesn't pick up trace as readily as say a Mk4. Just the other day the threaded insert (where you attach an arca plate) stripped out so it's going back for warranty. I've got an LMSS coming in on loan to review so I'll be comparing the 2 side by side.
I’ve been wanting to check those forge binos out. Have you compared the forge binos to any other 15x56. I would put #1 sawro #2 meopta #3 zeiss/maven/leupold tie. Another good one for the $$ is the nikon 20x56, you can get grey market bins for $450-550 for the 16x56 or 20x56.I've been fairly happy with mine, especially for the price, but if you're looking to pick up trace and general spotting use (and can live without a reticle), I'd suggest a set of Forge binos. I use the hell out of my Forge binos, and my spotter really only comes out now for recording via PhoneSkope.
I’ve been wanting to check those forge binos out. Have you compared the forge binos to any other 15x56. I would put #1 sawro #2 meopta #3 zeiss/maven/leupold tie. Another good one for the $$ is the nikon 20x56, you can get grey market bins for $450-550 for the 16x56 or 20x56.
Are you talking about the old slc or the new hd slc because the new ones are a big step up & are close to my 10x50 el sv in performance. At the forge price I would be surprised if they were as good as the ziess hd or leupolds but the swaro & meopta are quite a bit better than the others.The only other binos I have any significant time behind are the Swaro SLCs (and maybe a set of ELs along the way). Personally, I can't see any way to justify the price of the SLCs compared to the Forge for match use and general shooting. I haven't had a chance to compare them in low light conditions yet, but a friend did (he owns both), and he actually thought the Forges performed better than the SLCs.
Are you talking about the old slc or the new hd slc because the new ones are a big step up & are close to my 10x50 el sv in performance. At the forge price I would be surprised if they were as good as the ziess hd or leupolds but the swaro & meopta are quite a bit better than the others.
I would love to get a swaro spotter but it is outside of my budget for a while. Must haves are a reticle, ability to see mirage, and ability to see trace. Would not mind binos but haven't found any with a reticle.
Steiner has the m2080r & m1050r. Newcon has the 20x80 m22. Vortex ranger hd rt 10x50. Leupold has the bx Tactical 10x42. From these reticle bino choices I would go with the m1050r or the m2080r. I’m hoping bushnell comes out with a reticle 15x56These: Steiner 10x42r
I think I'm going to hold off in that case. I just dealt with poor QC from a scope company and don't want to deal with that nonsense again.Just picked one up on Amazon sale day for a tic under $400 shipped. Initial optimism gone, guess I got one of those that never was QC’d, as in spite of working all the possible adjustments, won’t focus clearly above 20x, even at 600 yds. Going to talk to Bushnell customer service Monday, but it’s going back.
I’ve never had an issue with mine. Been 2 or 3 years now. It’s a good scope for the money but it’s basically relegated to recording now. I use my buddies swaro now until I buy my own swaro.I think I'm going to hold off in that case. I just dealt with poor QC from a scope company and don't want to deal with that nonsense again.
Basically sums up anything made in China ?@TacticalDillhole I may be reading things in the above posts wrong but it seems like they started off great, went through a run of bad QC, and now there's a mix of bad and good ones out there so it's luck of the draw which you get. I'd almost prefer just saving more and going for a LMSS.
This is true. I've also had to deal with this from an American scope manufacturer so I'd rather not have to go with that again.Basically sums up anything made in China ?
FactAs for the LMSS, it’s a nice scope but I’d rather just save up for a Mark IV for only 2-300 more
I hope they aren’t being phased out.Bushnell is blowing out LMSS now for $850 with a carry case and Silk tripod, fwiw. So more like $600 less than a Mk4.
I agree but would take the leupold golden ring hd over the mk4 because of the better glass.Basically sums up anything made in China ?
As for the LMSS, it’s a nice scope but I’d rather just save up for a Mark IV for only 2-300 more
I had some problems with mine but they sent me another one very quickly. Now I have 2 good ones & another person to spot with the 2nd one. It’s nice to have some cheaper optics along side my expensive ones that I’m not worried about getting messed up. For the $$ they are worth the risk because bushnell will get you another one quickly if there’s a problem@TacticalDillhole I may be reading things in the above posts wrong but it seems like they started off great, went through a run of bad QC, and now there's a mix of bad and good ones out there so it's luck of the draw which you get. I'd almost prefer just saving more and going for a LMSS.
Bushnell is blowing out LMSS now for $850 with a carry case and Silk tripod, fwiw. So more like $600 less than a Mk4.
I hope they aren’t being phased out.
I still have mine, doesn’t get a ton of use but it’s a good choice for the money.So kicking this back up. How are people still feeling about these. I want to pick up a spotter mostly for the occasional match, calling corrections, and the like. Given how frequently I shoot this one seems to be in the budget.
For starters the reticle. Second the wandering focus. Third make them in America.Question for those who have one or have used one:
What would you change about these if you could?
one last thing, threads inside the objective housing so we can use kill flash or lens capsQuestion for those who have one or have used one:
What would you change about these if you could?