Rifle Scopes Bushnell LRTS 3-12
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This guy has some side by side experience, it appears. Pg 17:
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Mounted mine today on my Faux Ti .223 700. It is my go to gun always ran a 6x42 Leupold on it. Mounted the LRHS in 30mm low Dual Dovetails. Checked the bore sight the old fashioned way and it was right on. Shot the first shot and it was 2/10 of a mil low and 2/10th left. Moved it up2/10th ...
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Nice! ill be waiting!! cause I have 3 scopes in mind for my ACR DMR, ltrs/DMR ii or meopta 3x18x50 with a MRAD RD 1. ( never seen down the mrad or the dmr ii so im just going by what ive heard ) biggest thing I don't like about meopta is the reticle.
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Ok, so here goes MY OPINION.... oh boy, hold on to your hat!
I do think that depending on what you plan on doing with it, that you may prefer one over the other, but for a DMR type rifle, I really don't think you can go wrong with either one of them for what they cost. I really think that you would be happy with the LRTS for the price. I will say that I'm extremely pleased with mine, and I keep fighting myself to not buy another one while the price is low. I really cant see much of a difference, even in low light between the 44mm and 50mm objectives. I set both of these at 12x just to keep the magnification the same. The first picture is the LRTS, the bottom one is the DMR.
I know to some, they consider low light to be 30 minutes after sunset, and sure, that is lower than mid day, but for me this is what I consider low light. The camera setting are set to where it is representative of what I'm seeing with my naked eye. The current time is 2215 hrs with no moon and cloud cover. That light is at 264.1 yards. It is much clearer in person and with less bloom than what is represented by the picture.
Either one of these scopes will perform well in low light. Are there better out there, absolutely! But it's hard to find one at this price point.
Where i have heard of some issues is with image quality when dialed for long range. I have taken both of mine out to 1000 yards a few times and have never noticed this first hand. Now, that said 9.9 mils gets me to 1,000 yards with my current DA, and a muzzle velocity of 2,614 fps and my 143 ELDX. So, I have never seen any image distortion or loss of focus at only 10 mils. HOWEVER, if you were to take my same gun and try to shoot it at 1,440 yards (20 mils), your image quality would start to drop off alot. It's at night so this isn't the best pic, and maybe I can take some for you tomorrow. This is with 20 mils dialed in and all other settings including scope focus, remaining the same.
Now, honestly I wouldn't get discouraged by this. How many other scopes in this price range would perform the same? Honestly most, if not all of them. But since we are being honest, how often is a DMR rifle going to be used at over 1,400 yards? Let's take that a little further and ask the question, how many people on the Hide have access to a 1,400 yard range? I live in central texas and it has taken me a few YEARS to find someone who has enough useable land that i can now shoot past 1,000 yards. I know that's not the same for everyone, because some of the guys on here can just drive out to the desert and pick a rock to shoot at, you lucky bastards! But if we are all being honest with ourselves, either one of these scopes will do what you ask of it as long as you have realistic expectations. If your expectations are to have a rifle scope that will take you to 1 mile and remain crystal clear, this isn't for you. But if your goal is to outfit a DMR type rifle with a good piece of glass that tracks well, can be rough handled, rode hard, and put away wet... I think either will serve you just fine.
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really really hard to tell difference! but my acr dmr is just a 223 so prob max ill shoot is 600ish yards. i have a Schmidt and bender pmii I should compare the bushy to the pmii and see the difference between a 1.5k scope vs a 3k+ scope . but ya I know camera land has a special on the DMRii right now and the 3x12 lrts (not the 4.5x18 which in kinda after) so im probably gonna go with the DMR ii. really good review tho! a+
Thanks for the update. I will try to get some better pics tomorrow, that's the best I could do this late. I always love messing with mine after dark to get really good comparisons though. When it's this dark, you will find things that you never noticed before. You can find CA, but also what color the color fringes are. Lol. At night the color fringe on my NF Atacr is more natural and just slightly warm, where as with the DMR it's more purple. In normal daylight or even 30 minutes before or after legal hours, you would never see it. But once its fully dark. Things change. For 99% it's not a problem at all. For a LE or Mil sniper who may lay behind that optic at 0100 for the next 4 hours or longer, that warm fringe would be alot more comfortable on the eyes than say, purple. Just little things that most wouldn't really consider. Im the weird guy looking thru optics at 0300 some times. We work odd hours and even though I trust both my elite and my NF when it comes to tracking and daylight clarity, when it comes to low light/no light, those little differences really make a big difference.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
haha its kinda funny cause i do the same thing aswell. i have a gen 2 3x15x44 vortex pst a nikon fx 1000 4x16x50 and a schmidt and bender 5x25x56. my reviews between all three vary quiet a bit. Like the nikon fx does not agree with my eyes. it always looks blurry to me. doesnt matter the magnification ( this is the scope im going to replacing with dmr ii 3.5x21) and hopefully my eyes actually agree to it. the PST Gen 2 3x15x44 is pretty good i find its nice when its bright outside and conditions are clear but you get any sort of fog or haze or snow, its hard to see impact at 100y. And then the schmidt. i think this scope was built for me cause doesnt matter if its raining snowing freezing rain on the lens i never ever have any issues at all seeing what im trying to shoot. i have really good vision so when i get a optic that doesnt agree with my eyes. it doesnt agree at all haha. Nightforce i found was pretty clear but didnt have much time with it. one glass i found that was actually really well was the VX6i. it was damn good. And i dont really like leupold scopes.
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