Alright it's been about 2 months since I purchased my first gun(s&w m&p15) and I wanted to get a nice bolt action,so I read around found what caliber suits me and also a gun(remingon 700p.308) Im sorta new to guns I was around them a lot when i was younger and hadn't been around them much since i turned 18 I'm now 20 anyone have any advice on the Remington 700p or maybe pictures of what to look forward to or any cool upgrades please post them thank you
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Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
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Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
Ok this is easy. Go right out and buy an AIAW in .308, then get a S&B with Badger rings to go with it. Then you'll need, a Swarovski LRF a Kestrel 4000V and a handheld computer for you ballistic calculator. Then you'll also need a shooting mat, drag bag, TAB rear bag, Tab sling and you'll have to get your rifle coated, either Duracoat or Cerakote. Then you'll need a reloading press, dies, bullets, brass, primers, powder, chamfering tool, flash hole deburrer, primer pocket uniformer, powder thrower, powder measure, case lube, case lube pad and on and on and on. Did I miss anything.
Sorry, I'm a little bored. Seriously though, Just read a little bit and you'll find everything you need to know, without getting flamed for asking the same ol' question again.
And Oh yeah, fill out your profile. Some suggested reading would be the "Things not to ask on Snipers Hide" thread.
Welcome to the Hide, just giving ya' a little heads up. 41
Ok this is easy. Go right out and buy an AIAW in .308, then get a S&B with Badger rings to go with it. Then you'll need, a Swarovski LRF a Kestrel 4000V and a handheld computer for you ballistic calculator. Then you'll also need a shooting mat, drag bag, TAB rear bag, Tab sling and you'll have to get your rifle coated, either Duracoat or Cerakote. Then you'll need a reloading press, dies, bullets, brass, primers, powder, chamfering tool, flash hole deburrer, primer pocket uniformer, powder thrower, powder measure, case lube, case lube pad and on and on and on. Did I miss anything.
Sorry, I'm a little bored. Seriously though, Just read a little bit and you'll find everything you need to know, without getting flamed for asking the same ol' question again.
And Oh yeah, fill out your profile. Some suggested reading would be the "Things not to ask on Snipers Hide" thread.
Welcome to the Hide, just giving ya' a little heads up. 41
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
What is the primary use for the bolt gun? I think that there is a lot of good guns out there. For me I like Savage arms in the model 10 and the model 12 versions. One thing I like is it just feels good and shoots great. It has been said that they are the most accurate production gun out of the box. I know that will open up a can of worms, but if you are going to shoot and you are just starting it would be a good choice. That is my .02 cents. I have tweeked my Savages a bit but they are Shooters. If you do your part the gun will do it's.
One thing that you can do is get a rimfire and start with it. They are cheap and cheap to shoot. Range time will be the best teacher.
OH, Sorry but WELCOME TO THE HIDE....
Gnab2
What is the primary use for the bolt gun? I think that there is a lot of good guns out there. For me I like Savage arms in the model 10 and the model 12 versions. One thing I like is it just feels good and shoots great. It has been said that they are the most accurate production gun out of the box. I know that will open up a can of worms, but if you are going to shoot and you are just starting it would be a good choice. That is my .02 cents. I have tweeked my Savages a bit but they are Shooters. If you do your part the gun will do it's.
One thing that you can do is get a rimfire and start with it. They are cheap and cheap to shoot. Range time will be the best teacher.
OH, Sorry but WELCOME TO THE HIDE....
Gnab2
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
Main thing will be shooting targets and some hunting I check out the savage rifles before but didn't like it as much as the Remington 700p
Main thing will be shooting targets and some hunting I check out the savage rifles before but didn't like it as much as the Remington 700p
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
Hey mate.
Welcome to the hide. As has been said, the search function is your friend. Not the one in the corner, use the snipers hide google. if you google search 'snipers hide google search' youll find a link to it.
Anyhow.
If you dont own a .22LR, thats your first step. no point wasting money on centrefire ammo when you dont have the fundamentals down. the .22LR does all this, at less than $5 for 50 rounds.
Savage have released some really top notch rimfires out there, including a tactical .22 thats apparantly very good.
also worth a look is the Winchester Wildcat (or branded as a TOZ, the actual manufacturer). Its very cheap, comes with 4 magazines and is reputedly very accurate and incredibly cheap.
Good luck mate.
if your dead set on the centrefire i'd reccomend the Tikka or Savage over the remmy. Better out of the box features such as detach box and adjustable trigger.
Hey mate.
Welcome to the hide. As has been said, the search function is your friend. Not the one in the corner, use the snipers hide google. if you google search 'snipers hide google search' youll find a link to it.
Anyhow.
If you dont own a .22LR, thats your first step. no point wasting money on centrefire ammo when you dont have the fundamentals down. the .22LR does all this, at less than $5 for 50 rounds.
Savage have released some really top notch rimfires out there, including a tactical .22 thats apparantly very good.
also worth a look is the Winchester Wildcat (or branded as a TOZ, the actual manufacturer). Its very cheap, comes with 4 magazines and is reputedly very accurate and incredibly cheap.
Good luck mate.
if your dead set on the centrefire i'd reccomend the Tikka or Savage over the remmy. Better out of the box features such as detach box and adjustable trigger.
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
Before you listen to anyones advice I have a few questions..
How much are you looking at spending as a whole on the rifle.. (Optics/accesories/rifle)
How much are you planning on spending on optics alone??
How much are you looking to spend on the rifle alone??
What are you looking to do with it?? (Hunt, target, benchrest)
How far are you planning on shooting this rifle??
Have you ever shot a centerfire rifle before??
Before you listen to anyones advice I have a few questions..
How much are you looking at spending as a whole on the rifle.. (Optics/accesories/rifle)
How much are you planning on spending on optics alone??
How much are you looking to spend on the rifle alone??
What are you looking to do with it?? (Hunt, target, benchrest)
How far are you planning on shooting this rifle??
Have you ever shot a centerfire rifle before??
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
The Remington 700P is a good rifle to start with. What ever you do don't go cheap on the glass. Plan to spend at least as much on the scope as you do on the rifle. Then practice, practice and praactice some more.
Welcome to the Hide.
The Remington 700P is a good rifle to start with. What ever you do don't go cheap on the glass. Plan to spend at least as much on the scope as you do on the rifle. Then practice, practice and praactice some more.
Welcome to the Hide.
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
I'd have to reccomend looking at a Remington 700 SPS tactical. Great solid platform.
With the 700P you wont have much left for optics. Save some money for better optics.
Shoots .75 MOA at around 300 yards. I took mine out to 675 with $15 factory ammo
and was hitting just left and right of the bowling pin. Im working up some hand
loads to see the full potential she can out out. These are getting pretty popular.
I've seen a few guys take these out past 1000 yards.
This was my budget build and I only spent about $1400 which is just about in your
price range.
Here is what I have on it:
Remington 700 SPS Tactical .308
Bushnell 3200 Tactical 5-15x 40mm Mildot
Badger Ordnance USMC M40A3 rings
Badger Ordnance USMC 20 MOA Rail
Harris S-Series 6-9" Bi-pod
Karsten Adj. Cheek Piece
I'd have to reccomend looking at a Remington 700 SPS tactical. Great solid platform.
With the 700P you wont have much left for optics. Save some money for better optics.
Shoots .75 MOA at around 300 yards. I took mine out to 675 with $15 factory ammo
and was hitting just left and right of the bowling pin. Im working up some hand
loads to see the full potential she can out out. These are getting pretty popular.
I've seen a few guys take these out past 1000 yards.
This was my budget build and I only spent about $1400 which is just about in your
price range.
Here is what I have on it:
Remington 700 SPS Tactical .308
Bushnell 3200 Tactical 5-15x 40mm Mildot
Badger Ordnance USMC M40A3 rings
Badger Ordnance USMC 20 MOA Rail
Harris S-Series 6-9" Bi-pod
Karsten Adj. Cheek Piece
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
That's I nice looking gun I don't really know what optics to get I was thinking about a nikon for starting and the only reason Kim getting a 700p is because I found a great deal for $735 shipped
That's I nice looking gun I don't really know what optics to get I was thinking about a nikon for starting and the only reason Kim getting a 700p is because I found a great deal for $735 shipped
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
Are you looking to hunt or just shoot paper? If your just shooting paper go with a bushnell 3200 or 6500 tactical. I bought mine just for a temp scope but its actually a great piece of glass for what you pay for im just going to keep it on there. Look into the bushnells I would highly recommend it for the best bang for your buck in that price range.
Are you looking to hunt or just shoot paper? If your just shooting paper go with a bushnell 3200 or 6500 tactical. I bought mine just for a temp scope but its actually a great piece of glass for what you pay for im just going to keep it on there. Look into the bushnells I would highly recommend it for the best bang for your buck in that price range.
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
+1 for savage. If you want to learn a lot and not spend too much this is your best bet. A model 10 or 110 can be had for well less than $600 and is the most accurate production rifle made right now. This will leave you a little more room for optics. I would suggest going to a gun store that has a good variety of guns and optics to see what fits you best. Don't let them convince you that some cheap Barska or something will work fine either lol. Keep your eyes peeled for a good deal on a gun and optics because they are out there and come up pretty often here on the hide. I'm only 22 so I know how hard this decision is for you I had to make it just a couple of years ago. I decided to wait a little longer to be able to afford better optics and now I don't regret it a single bit. It's better to wait then be embarrassed at the range when your gun shoots like shit because your were anxious. Good luck to you I think you'll be fine.
+1 for savage. If you want to learn a lot and not spend too much this is your best bet. A model 10 or 110 can be had for well less than $600 and is the most accurate production rifle made right now. This will leave you a little more room for optics. I would suggest going to a gun store that has a good variety of guns and optics to see what fits you best. Don't let them convince you that some cheap Barska or something will work fine either lol. Keep your eyes peeled for a good deal on a gun and optics because they are out there and come up pretty often here on the hide. I'm only 22 so I know how hard this decision is for you I had to make it just a couple of years ago. I decided to wait a little longer to be able to afford better optics and now I don't regret it a single bit. It's better to wait then be embarrassed at the range when your gun shoots like shit because your were anxious. Good luck to you I think you'll be fine.
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
Mostly using it for paper and hunting and I doubt i'll be embarrassed cause I live in Vegas so I go out 40 min to the desert where I can shoot as far as I want,just checked out the bushnell 3200 5-15x40mm scope with mil dot reticule and I think you might have me sold on it how durable is it?also does it come with a lifetime warranty?
Mostly using it for paper and hunting and I doubt i'll be embarrassed cause I live in Vegas so I go out 40 min to the desert where I can shoot as far as I want,just checked out the bushnell 3200 5-15x40mm scope with mil dot reticule and I think you might have me sold on it how durable is it?also does it come with a lifetime warranty?
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Im not sure on exactly how durable it is I havnt exactly thrown my rifle.. But It seems really solid. I was told when shopping for scopes that they were crap and anything over 223 is too much recoil for them and the cross hairs move. But I along with a few other people havnt had a single problem with them. It hold up great click adjustments are solid and very clear when adjusting and have great feels to them. All of the internals are smooth.. magnification..windage and elivation adjustments everything is smooth and solid.
They have a fixed 10x power for a little cheaper if you want to save some $$ and dont plan on taking it out too far but Im really happy with the 5-15 adjustments. I think it had a decent warranty but im not too sure you can probably look it up on their site.
Idk its a great scope for the money.. Basically sums it up. I havnt had a single regret from it yet.. Accept I'm realling wanting a more powerfull scope being I'm starting to get out to the 1000 yard mark.. I sort of want the 6500 now because of the I think 25x mag. but this scope does the job its intended for... I almost hit a bowling pin at 700 yards some what hard to see because it was pretty small at that range but you cant complain from a $400 scope. I'd reccomend a bushnell 3200 or 6500 to just about anyone thats how satisfied I am with it.
I've hear the SS scopes were pretty good but I havnt looked through one or used one so I wouldnt know.. But you wont regret the 3200.
Im not sure on exactly how durable it is I havnt exactly thrown my rifle.. But It seems really solid. I was told when shopping for scopes that they were crap and anything over 223 is too much recoil for them and the cross hairs move. But I along with a few other people havnt had a single problem with them. It hold up great click adjustments are solid and very clear when adjusting and have great feels to them. All of the internals are smooth.. magnification..windage and elivation adjustments everything is smooth and solid.
They have a fixed 10x power for a little cheaper if you want to save some $$ and dont plan on taking it out too far but Im really happy with the 5-15 adjustments. I think it had a decent warranty but im not too sure you can probably look it up on their site.
Idk its a great scope for the money.. Basically sums it up. I havnt had a single regret from it yet.. Accept I'm realling wanting a more powerfull scope being I'm starting to get out to the 1000 yard mark.. I sort of want the 6500 now because of the I think 25x mag. but this scope does the job its intended for... I almost hit a bowling pin at 700 yards some what hard to see because it was pretty small at that range but you cant complain from a $400 scope. I'd reccomend a bushnell 3200 or 6500 to just about anyone thats how satisfied I am with it.
I've hear the SS scopes were pretty good but I havnt looked through one or used one so I wouldnt know.. But you wont regret the 3200.
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Ya I like the look of it and it has great reviews on midway no complaints from anyone,any suggestion on base and rings?ones that will keep my scope close to the barrel?also do you use flip up lens caps?if so what kind?thanks in advance appreciate all the help
Ya I like the look of it and it has great reviews on midway no complaints from anyone,any suggestion on base and rings?ones that will keep my scope close to the barrel?also do you use flip up lens caps?if so what kind?thanks in advance appreciate all the help
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
Your ring heights will depend on the objective size of your scope. If you go 40mm you would prob go med, maybe short as long as you have a 1-piece base. If you want to shoot distance you will need a 20MOA base for sure. Also check out the Nikon Monarch line, Mine has been great and never fails to hold zero. It has a Lifetime warranty since I saw you were asking about warranties.
Your ring heights will depend on the objective size of your scope. If you go 40mm you would prob go med, maybe short as long as you have a 1-piece base. If you want to shoot distance you will need a 20MOA base for sure. Also check out the Nikon Monarch line, Mine has been great and never fails to hold zero. It has a Lifetime warranty since I saw you were asking about warranties.
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
The 700P in .308 is a great gun, I own one and love mine.
Both versions (20" and 26" barrels) are fine really.
My advice to you is that if you intend on changing stocks in the future, just get an SPS rather than a Police model. You will save a bit of money and can put that towards optics. However if your in love with the HS precision stock, by all means get a 700P.
Try not to skimp out too much on optics... great glass goes a long way, and in the scheme of things if you end up shooting a lot the cost of a good scope is nothing compared to ammo costs over a period of time. Depends how much you shoot, but I probably go through about 2000 rounds of .308 a year. I would rather shoot less for a year and have better glass, then shoot more and have glass i dont care about.
Anyway heres a pic of a 700P with a NF scope on it... She looks very different these days.
Looks more like this these days
The 700P in .308 is a great gun, I own one and love mine.
Both versions (20" and 26" barrels) are fine really.
My advice to you is that if you intend on changing stocks in the future, just get an SPS rather than a Police model. You will save a bit of money and can put that towards optics. However if your in love with the HS precision stock, by all means get a 700P.
Try not to skimp out too much on optics... great glass goes a long way, and in the scheme of things if you end up shooting a lot the cost of a good scope is nothing compared to ammo costs over a period of time. Depends how much you shoot, but I probably go through about 2000 rounds of .308 a year. I would rather shoot less for a year and have better glass, then shoot more and have glass i dont care about.
Anyway heres a pic of a 700P with a NF scope on it... She looks very different these days.
Looks more like this these days
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
I bought a 26in 700 PS years ago and upgraded the HS Precision stock to the HS stock that is on the M24 and put TPS rings and base on with a Leupold Mk4 mildot. Later I updated with a Timney trigger and sold it to a friend 2 years ago. That rifle out of the box has continued to pull down tight groups and hits at 1K all day long. I think you can get out of the box accuracy with a lot of rifles now days. Take a look at the platforms that most people shoot and the options that are available to upgrade that platform as you go along. Good luck, have fun and don't let it consume you.
I bought a 26in 700 PS years ago and upgraded the HS Precision stock to the HS stock that is on the M24 and put TPS rings and base on with a Leupold Mk4 mildot. Later I updated with a Timney trigger and sold it to a friend 2 years ago. That rifle out of the box has continued to pull down tight groups and hits at 1K all day long. I think you can get out of the box accuracy with a lot of rifles now days. Take a look at the platforms that most people shoot and the options that are available to upgrade that platform as you go along. Good luck, have fun and don't let it consume you.
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There was a Savage model 10 PC posted a couple days ago here. If I remember correctly it has about 250 rounds down the tube and come with extra mags and a base. All you need is glass and rings. Can't remember the price but I know it could be a nice setup for under 1k
There was a Savage model 10 PC posted a couple days ago here. If I remember correctly it has about 250 rounds down the tube and come with extra mags and a base. All you need is glass and rings. Can't remember the price but I know it could be a nice setup for under 1k
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WTVR YOU DO, DO NOT GO OUT AND BUY A 308 FOR YOUR FIRST RIFLE. Buy a good pellet gun or 22 and work on shooting fundamentals. Without those down you can and will mount your rifle wrong. Your grouping will be inconsistent, you'll spend alot on ammo just to try and become profficient and you will also get shoulder pain from inconsistent mounting. Worse case scenario you eye relief is incorrect and you end up with a gash. With a 22 you can work out your kinks for cheap and you will always have a rifle you can even pass on to your kids or grandkids. Long range shooting is a great time once you learn the basics and continue to learn. Learn the basics then buy a starters rig. A good pellet gun is awesome because even at work on no range days we pull them out and practice trigger squeeze, groupings, allternate firing positions. And you can do it indoors, their safe and cheap as you want to go
WTVR YOU DO, DO NOT GO OUT AND BUY A 308 FOR YOUR FIRST RIFLE. Buy a good pellet gun or 22 and work on shooting fundamentals. Without those down you can and will mount your rifle wrong. Your grouping will be inconsistent, you'll spend alot on ammo just to try and become profficient and you will also get shoulder pain from inconsistent mounting. Worse case scenario you eye relief is incorrect and you end up with a gash. With a 22 you can work out your kinks for cheap and you will always have a rifle you can even pass on to your kids or grandkids. Long range shooting is a great time once you learn the basics and continue to learn. Learn the basics then buy a starters rig. A good pellet gun is awesome because even at work on no range days we pull them out and practice trigger squeeze, groupings, allternate firing positions. And you can do it indoors, their safe and cheap as you want to go
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
That's a gorgeous looking gun,and I have a pellet gun and plan on getting a 22 around Christmas but don't know which to get I kinda want a semi instead of a bolt for the 22,and I did look at the nikon but the bushnell seems better quality and I don't think it's really cheeping out the optics cost around $400,the reason I decided on the 700P is that if I bought an sps-v I would have changed the stock to the 700P stock anyways the only stock I'd change it to is the m24 later on in a few years,m also sure I want a Harris bipod and one piece scope base and som strong rings
That's a gorgeous looking gun,and I have a pellet gun and plan on getting a 22 around Christmas but don't know which to get I kinda want a semi instead of a bolt for the 22,and I did look at the nikon but the bushnell seems better quality and I don't think it's really cheeping out the optics cost around $400,the reason I decided on the 700P is that if I bought an sps-v I would have changed the stock to the 700P stock anyways the only stock I'd change it to is the m24 later on in a few years,m also sure I want a Harris bipod and one piece scope base and som strong rings
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As for the glass look at the Falcon Menace. It is a pretty good set of glass for the money. I have a Savage 10FP with Falcon glass and I am at .50 MOA out to 500 yards. I use it for both hunting and the range. I took a whitetail at 725 yards with it last year with one shot.
I think the whole Rem vs Savage is crap. It is like Ford vs Chevy. To each there own.
As for the .22 I would go with a bolt just do to the fact it will get you use to shooting one. Plus they are a bit more accurate. Just have fun.
Check the local Pawn shops and sometimes you can find little jems in there. Just look on line and see what they are selling for and that will tell you what to give. Also they will work with you if cash is on the counter in front of them.
Good luck...
As for the glass look at the Falcon Menace. It is a pretty good set of glass for the money. I have a Savage 10FP with Falcon glass and I am at .50 MOA out to 500 yards. I use it for both hunting and the range. I took a whitetail at 725 yards with it last year with one shot.
I think the whole Rem vs Savage is crap. It is like Ford vs Chevy. To each there own.
As for the .22 I would go with a bolt just do to the fact it will get you use to shooting one. Plus they are a bit more accurate. Just have fun.
Check the local Pawn shops and sometimes you can find little jems in there. Just look on line and see what they are selling for and that will tell you what to give. Also they will work with you if cash is on the counter in front of them.
Good luck...
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A Remington 5R mil spec is hard to beat. Its about a $1000 bucks but buy it and save for the glass. It would take 3 x the money to get a better setup.
A Remington 5R mil spec is hard to beat. Its about a $1000 bucks but buy it and save for the glass. It would take 3 x the money to get a better setup.
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@gnab2:The only thing I have against bolt .22's is how funky they look but makes sense getting used to using the bolt and I actually never thought about pawn shops I'll have to look into that appreciate it.
@nutjob: I looked at the 5r but don't really like the stainless look I like the look of the matte black
@gnab2:The only thing I have against bolt .22's is how funky they look but makes sense getting used to using the bolt and I actually never thought about pawn shops I'll have to look into that appreciate it.
@nutjob: I looked at the 5r but don't really like the stainless look I like the look of the matte black
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I'd go with the .223 instead of the .308 for your first bolt. Many reasons, but:
Easier on the shoulder makes training much more enjoyable for longer periods of time
Cheaper ammo, you can get cheap plinking ammo all over the place and for pretty much that: CHEAP
While I do have a few .308, I do like shooting the .223 bolt and most new guys I bring out to shoot tend to like shooting that more.
Hope this maybe helps.
Chad
I'd go with the .223 instead of the .308 for your first bolt. Many reasons, but:
Easier on the shoulder makes training much more enjoyable for longer periods of time
Cheaper ammo, you can get cheap plinking ammo all over the place and for pretty much that: CHEAP
While I do have a few .308, I do like shooting the .223 bolt and most new guys I bring out to shoot tend to like shooting that more.
Hope this maybe helps.
Chad
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Just curious, since you've never owned/shot one, what you didn't like on Savages???
Stock Savage vs. stock Rem700, Savage wins in my book. Superior Accutrigger and Accustock. Add 10x42 or 16x42 SWFA "Super Sniper" ($300) and Farrell (or any other high quality one) mounts/rings and you are GOOD to go.
~opinions vary~
Just curious, since you've never owned/shot one, what you didn't like on Savages???
Stock Savage vs. stock Rem700, Savage wins in my book. Superior Accutrigger and Accustock. Add 10x42 or 16x42 SWFA "Super Sniper" ($300) and Farrell (or any other high quality one) mounts/rings and you are GOOD to go.
~opinions vary~
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
@chad3 I own an a r15 so I wanted something a bit bigger caliber wise
@vyd I main thing i didn't like was the feel of the bolt on the savage and when I saw the 700p kinda couldn't stop drooling but gotta say that's a beauty
@chad3 I own an a r15 so I wanted something a bit bigger caliber wise
@vyd I main thing i didn't like was the feel of the bolt on the savage and when I saw the 700p kinda couldn't stop drooling but gotta say that's a beauty
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Nothing wrong with a 700P in 308. Great caliber and you can build up the Rem over time with aftermarket parts.
Nothing wrong with a 700P in 308. Great caliber and you can build up the Rem over time with aftermarket parts.
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mattyboy702</div><div class="ubbcode-body">@chad3 I own an a r15 so I wanted something a bit bigger caliber wise
@vyd I main thing i didn't like was the feel of the bolt on the savage and when I saw the 700p kinda couldn't stop drooling but gotta say that's a beauty </div></div>
Mattyboy,
Go to nevadashooters.com, register, click here: http://www.nevadashooters.com/showthread.php?t=4810.
If you really want to learn a lot I suggest getting in touch with a small, select few fellas on that site (ones with a ton of posts in that <span style="font-style: italic">specific</span> forum) and following them out to shoot on the weekends. Keep your mouth shut, pay attention, listen and you will learn a ton, regardless of what platform you are shooting. They are a great group of shooters and continually shoot all ranges from 100yds to a mile. A Rem .308 is a good start as well.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mattyboy702</div><div class="ubbcode-body">@chad3 I own an a r15 so I wanted something a bit bigger caliber wise
@vyd I main thing i didn't like was the feel of the bolt on the savage and when I saw the 700p kinda couldn't stop drooling but gotta say that's a beauty </div></div>
Mattyboy,
Go to nevadashooters.com, register, click here: http://www.nevadashooters.com/showthread.php?t=4810.
If you really want to learn a lot I suggest getting in touch with a small, select few fellas on that site (ones with a ton of posts in that <span style="font-style: italic">specific</span> forum) and following them out to shoot on the weekends. Keep your mouth shut, pay attention, listen and you will learn a ton, regardless of what platform you are shooting. They are a great group of shooters and continually shoot all ranges from 100yds to a mile. A Rem .308 is a good start as well.
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
Remington 700 w/5R rifling in .308. $1,100. Accurate, smooth, and strong.
Remington 700 w/5R rifling in .308. $1,100. Accurate, smooth, and strong.
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As far as optics go, you might check out Vortex the regular Viper series 6.5-20x44 is about $400 new and also has a lifetime warranty. Glass is very good for the cash. Just a thought. I'd also say +1 on the Savage, save some money over the remmy and get just as accurate or more of a rifle. Welcome
As far as optics go, you might check out Vortex the regular Viper series 6.5-20x44 is about $400 new and also has a lifetime warranty. Glass is very good for the cash. Just a thought. I'd also say +1 on the Savage, save some money over the remmy and get just as accurate or more of a rifle. Welcome
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
buy a 22lr
put 5,000 rounds down the tube
THEN start looking for a precision center fire
crawl, walk, jog, run
buy a 22lr
put 5,000 rounds down the tube
THEN start looking for a precision center fire
crawl, walk, jog, run
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
I'll have to check out that Nevada shooters website and the only thing I have against the 5r is it's stainless
I'll have to check out that Nevada shooters website and the only thing I have against the 5r is it's stainless
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
You'll grow to appreciate the stainless. Besides, if your playing on here, its only a matter of time before you get it coated. Function first, fashion second. Not many chicks on the range, and the ones there are usually spoken for. Listen to reccomendations, the objective ones at least, try to weed out the fan boys (theres lots). If you get or find a good deal on a quality rifle, buy it. You can always change the looks later. Trust me, its much cheaper than changing how it feels or shoots.
Check the used forum. You can regularly find serious quality rifles that have had basic work done by quality smiths for very reasonable prices. Used is fine, as long as the seller is reputable (check the list). Once again I know its hard when your young but please, disregard the "looks". Looks don't get you on target any more than "cool points" pay your power bill. Get me?
You'll grow to appreciate the stainless. Besides, if your playing on here, its only a matter of time before you get it coated. Function first, fashion second. Not many chicks on the range, and the ones there are usually spoken for. Listen to reccomendations, the objective ones at least, try to weed out the fan boys (theres lots). If you get or find a good deal on a quality rifle, buy it. You can always change the looks later. Trust me, its much cheaper than changing how it feels or shoots.
Check the used forum. You can regularly find serious quality rifles that have had basic work done by quality smiths for very reasonable prices. Used is fine, as long as the seller is reputable (check the list). Once again I know its hard when your young but please, disregard the "looks". Looks don't get you on target any more than "cool points" pay your power bill. Get me?
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mattyboy702</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I did look at the nikon but the bushnell seems better quality and I don't think it's really cheeping out the optics cost around $400,the reason I decided on the 700P is that if I bought an sps-v I would have changed the stock to the 700P stock anyways the only stock I'd change it to is the m24 later on in a few years,m also sure I want a Harris bipod and one piece scope base and som strong rings </div></div>
Honestly if your going to change the stock out at all get a SPs tactical. They are EXACTLY the same rifle down to the stamps and all you pay for is the stock and longer barrel. If you really wanted you could pick up a used 700P stock for like half price and these days it seems like more and more people are moving onto the 18" and 20" barrels.
Ill help you out a little bit with your list.
For high quality rings go Badger Ordnance.
For rings I got lows but it all depends on how big your objective is. If your going with the bushnell 3200 get the lows.
For high quality base for EGW or Badger Ordnance. and if your looking to shoot past 600 yards I suggest getting a 20MOA base
For a bipod I highly suggest either atlas or a harris. Stick with 6-9" the 9-13"'s and long legs are pointless.
For slings get a Tab sling.
If you stick with all that you will have a solid rifle platform.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mattyboy702</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I did look at the nikon but the bushnell seems better quality and I don't think it's really cheeping out the optics cost around $400,the reason I decided on the 700P is that if I bought an sps-v I would have changed the stock to the 700P stock anyways the only stock I'd change it to is the m24 later on in a few years,m also sure I want a Harris bipod and one piece scope base and som strong rings </div></div>
Honestly if your going to change the stock out at all get a SPs tactical. They are EXACTLY the same rifle down to the stamps and all you pay for is the stock and longer barrel. If you really wanted you could pick up a used 700P stock for like half price and these days it seems like more and more people are moving onto the 18" and 20" barrels.
Ill help you out a little bit with your list.
For high quality rings go Badger Ordnance.
For rings I got lows but it all depends on how big your objective is. If your going with the bushnell 3200 get the lows.
For high quality base for EGW or Badger Ordnance. and if your looking to shoot past 600 yards I suggest getting a 20MOA base
For a bipod I highly suggest either atlas or a harris. Stick with 6-9" the 9-13"'s and long legs are pointless.
For slings get a Tab sling.
If you stick with all that you will have a solid rifle platform.
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
Alright I found a used Remington 700p with 120 shots down the tube come with a decent sling and a weaver scope base $640 shipped I'm not gonna pass it up
Alright I found a used Remington 700p with 120 shots down the tube come with a decent sling and a weaver scope base $640 shipped I'm not gonna pass it up
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
I think a newer shooter's first bolt action rifle should be relatively basic and generic. Little more is needed in establishing the basic marksmanship skills. For accuracy, favor a rifle whose purpose implies accuracy. To my mind that calls for a Varmint rifle.
Mine would be chambered in .223, because there is such a myriad of reasonably good commercial ammo choices being offered for this chambering. It's also a good choice for beginner handloading, when that time arrives. Meanwhile, the chambering allows better use of ammunition funds.
I like Savage rifles. They have good reputations for accuracy out of the box and for reasonable pricing. I also like their Accue-Trigger and Accue-Stock.
Mounts and optics; I think inexpensive stuff is good for starters. Lots of time to consider more complex and/or costly stuff later, but the first order of the day is to get it all up and running ASAP. I use the Tasco VAR624X42M. The features and quality meet or exceed a beginner's needs, and the price won't be postponing anything important. This scope will also serve well on a .22LR trainer, when you decide to upgrade, if you decide. I kept mine and bought 3 more, and use them in a variety of applications where I need good magnification without costing an arm and/or a leg
That's a significant issue, having a .22LR trainer. Marksmanship excellence demands a lot of repetitive practice, and anything that serves the purpose and also saves bucks is a huge plus. That's where the .22LR is absolutely gold in the pocket. As above, keep it simple, basic, and low cost. I use a very basic Savage MKIIF.
Greg
I think a newer shooter's first bolt action rifle should be relatively basic and generic. Little more is needed in establishing the basic marksmanship skills. For accuracy, favor a rifle whose purpose implies accuracy. To my mind that calls for a Varmint rifle.
Mine would be chambered in .223, because there is such a myriad of reasonably good commercial ammo choices being offered for this chambering. It's also a good choice for beginner handloading, when that time arrives. Meanwhile, the chambering allows better use of ammunition funds.
I like Savage rifles. They have good reputations for accuracy out of the box and for reasonable pricing. I also like their Accue-Trigger and Accue-Stock.
Mounts and optics; I think inexpensive stuff is good for starters. Lots of time to consider more complex and/or costly stuff later, but the first order of the day is to get it all up and running ASAP. I use the Tasco VAR624X42M. The features and quality meet or exceed a beginner's needs, and the price won't be postponing anything important. This scope will also serve well on a .22LR trainer, when you decide to upgrade, if you decide. I kept mine and bought 3 more, and use them in a variety of applications where I need good magnification without costing an arm and/or a leg
That's a significant issue, having a .22LR trainer. Marksmanship excellence demands a lot of repetitive practice, and anything that serves the purpose and also saves bucks is a huge plus. That's where the .22LR is absolutely gold in the pocket. As above, keep it simple, basic, and low cost. I use a very basic Savage MKIIF.
Greg
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
I have an swfa super sniper on an ar10 and it has served well.
Repeatable clicks and I think its in your price range. Call swfa. They support the hide and there is no better customer service. I would also recommend that you shoot the crap out of it before you buy too many accesories. Spend money on ammo not cool stuff like i used to do. Then sell it and get a AI and and s&b and shoot it for the rest of your life. If you get a sling go ahead and buy a TAB sling from rifles only website. This is the best sling for offhand shooting and TAB is a hide supporter. Shooting prone gets boring. A Rifle stock pack from triad tactical would help dampen your pulse and pad your cheek a bit. I would shoot a load that uses the 175smk. Learn the dope for that load and you can carry that knowledge over to your next rifle. Sticking with one load and one rifle will help you in the begining. Just my .02
I have an swfa super sniper on an ar10 and it has served well.
Repeatable clicks and I think its in your price range. Call swfa. They support the hide and there is no better customer service. I would also recommend that you shoot the crap out of it before you buy too many accesories. Spend money on ammo not cool stuff like i used to do. Then sell it and get a AI and and s&b and shoot it for the rest of your life. If you get a sling go ahead and buy a TAB sling from rifles only website. This is the best sling for offhand shooting and TAB is a hide supporter. Shooting prone gets boring. A Rifle stock pack from triad tactical would help dampen your pulse and pad your cheek a bit. I would shoot a load that uses the 175smk. Learn the dope for that load and you can carry that knowledge over to your next rifle. Sticking with one load and one rifle will help you in the begining. Just my .02
Re: Buying my first bolt any advice welcomed
@cuffm4615:thank you lol
@Greglangelius:do you recommend any good 22's
@recoil:it between the swfa and the bushnell 3200 also know anything about vector scopes?pro's?con's?
@everyone:truly appreciate everyone's help with this
@cuffm4615:thank you lol
@Greglangelius:do you recommend any good 22's
@recoil:it between the swfa and the bushnell 3200 also know anything about vector scopes?pro's?con's?
@everyone:truly appreciate everyone's help with this
