C1 chiropractic

[Maggot]

When I was just a kid, 5-6 years old, I was in an accident that dislocated the C2 and C3 (the second and third) vertabrae in my neck. I was paralyzed for a whild, put in nec traction, and eventually got use of everything back. Unfortunately it left me in a lot of pain ever since. You learn to deal with the pain but it takes energy, energy yo dont have to use for other things. I tried a lot of treatment from standar chiropratic to physical therapy, and other stuff and got a little relief but not signifigant.

A couple of years ago a member here, C1Steve, who is a practitioner of a different type of chiropractic, that only deals with the alignment of the C1, also known as the Atlas vertabrae, turned me on to his work. I never followed up until about 3 months ago. Ive since had several treatments and can say that it has helped a lot. I nmood improvement as much as anything...its hard to be really positive when youre in a lot of pain. So for anyone who has had upper nec or spine trauma, I would recommend looking into this. Its much different than standard chiropractic, which IMHO only terats the symptomn.

I hope Steve will chime in and talk more about this type of treatment.

 

[Blowby]

I’m all ears!!!

 

[bogeybrown]

Standing by for any more info as well. After my last X-rays and MRIs the ortho said it would be easier to tell me which vertebrae weren't damaged than to list all the problems. To date, the damage to my Atlas is the best guess anyone for my cluster Migraines with Aura and loss of feeling in my face and hands.

Deep, brutally painful deep tissue massage and medicinal cold beer seems to give me some relief to most of my other back injuries. It's amazing how weird it feels to walk normally on those few days it's possible.

 

[Maggot]

Standing by for any more info as well. After my last X-rays and MRIs the ortho said it would be easier to tell me which vertebrae weren't damaged than to list all the problems. To date, the damage to my Atlas is the best guess anyone for my cluster Migraines with Aura and loss of feeling in my face and hands.

Deep, brutally painful deep tissue massage and medicinal cold beer seems to give me some relief to most of my other back injuries. It's amazing how weird it feels to walk normally on those few days it's possible.

Deep tissue definately helps. Before this treatment the only way I ccoud get those few comfortable days was with 4-6 mg of dialudid and a glass of wine. But thats temporary and this seems to treat the root cause. Where are you Steve?

 

[c1steve]

Embedded into the upper cervical muscle complex are about 20,000 position sensors, called proprioceptors. When there is a misalignment between the skull and the top 2+ vertebrae, the brain receives the wrong signals from these proprioceptors. The brain then adjusts tension on the paraspinal muscles causing scoliosis and any type of twisted back. People can usually live with a crooked spine for a while, but over time the soft tissues start breaking down and pain sets in.

Anyone who has had an auto accident, bicycle accident, fell out of a tree, etc., probably has an upper cervical misalignment. The only way on earth to realign this area is through precise low force adjusting of C1. The only persons who do it with any amount of success are chiropractors who specialize in this treatment. 99% of chiropractors are not specialists and will most likely make the problem worse. I have been a NUCCA practitioner for 10 years and am finally starting to feel that I am doing very well in it. There are about 400 people in the country who do this and are capable of reliably fixing the problem. A few of them try to do their own, different, version of NUCCA, and they are a total waste of time.

Right now my success rate is about 95%, but sometimes it takes two or three adjustments before things really start to work well. 25%-30% of my patients I can fix their underlying problem in one or two adjustments. There is another style of upper cervical adjusting named Atlas Orthogonal. That works fairly well, but not as good as NUCCA. What is important is that the chiropractor takes super precise x-rays in aligned equipment, performs the adjustment, and then checks the improvement by measuring two post x-ray images. Some cases are easy, and some are very, very tricky. A new upper cervical chiropractor can usually perform well with the straight forward cases. Here are some links:

http://www.marinnucca.com/testimonials/

http://nucca.org/

 

[c1steve]

I am in northern California, but if SH members want to try NUCCA I can refer them to someone in their area. This link will help locate someone, but remember that perhaps 5% are not doing the technique correctly and will waste your time and money:
http://www.nucca.org/directory/

 

[c1steve]

Standing by for any more info as well. After my last X-rays and MRIs the ortho said it would be easier to tell me which vertebrae weren't damaged than to list all the problems. To date, the damage to my Atlas is the best guess anyone for my cluster Migraines with Aura and loss of feeling in my face and hands.

Deep, brutally painful deep tissue massage and medicinal cold beer seems to give me some relief to most of my other back injuries. It's amazing how weird it feels to walk normally on those few days it's possible.

Bogey Brown,

The top two Chicago persons listed here are super good. They are in Northbrook.
Dr. Marshall Dickholtz, Jr.
2565 Shermer Road
Northbrook, IL, 60062

Dr. Daiki Ishiyama
same address

http://www.nucca.org/directory/

 

[Maggot]

Bogey Brown,

The top two Chicago persons listed here are super good. They are in Northbrook.
Dr. Marshall Dickholtz, Jr.
2565 Shermer Road
Northbrook, IL, 60062

Dr. Daiki Ishiyama
same address

http://www.nucca.org/directory/

Thanks, Steve.

I believe Bogey has, smartly, relocated to the warm south lands...Crimson Tide area if I recall.

 

[bogeybrown]

Bogey Brown,

The top two Chicago persons listed here are super good. They are in Northbrook.
Dr. Marshall Dickholtz, Jr.
2565 Shermer Road
Northbrook, IL, 60062

Dr. Daiki Ishiyama
same address

http://www.nucca.org/directory/

Thanks buddy, but I'm fortunately? back home in Alabama now and it doesn't look like there's anyone even remotely local to me.

Your explanation of the proprioceptors makes perfect sense and likely explains how my lower back has degenerated and affected my gait to such a degree.

 

[Blowby]

Only one Board Certified in CO. Yes or no? If yes I’m going as soon as I can get in.

Michelle Nowakowski, DC

 

[c1steve]

Bogey Brown, there is an excellent one in Tallahassee. Also some in Atlanta. An example for you: A woman came in who lives 4+ hours away. Another DC referred her to me. She had 92 degrees of scoliosis, yes the middle of her back is shaped like a"C". She had been getting steadily worse for 40 years. The first adjustment lasted for 8 months and stopped 95% of her pain. I have adjusted her 5 times in 6 years. Half of those times were because she slipped on ice or mud and fell.

Blowby, there are quite a few NUCCA DCs in Colorado. I am not yet board certified, and many who are not do excellent work. There is also one in Montrose, which is south of Grand Junction. http://www.atlasmontrose.com/

Not everyone who does NUCCA pays their yearly dues to belong to the organization and is listed on the website.

 

[Blowby]

I’m in Boulder so driving to Montrose might be a bit far. I was only using that certificate to rate since I have no clue who is up to par in this field. Thanks for your suggestions.

 

[Maggot]

I think this is an over simpllfication but: The head rests on the Atlas like a house rests on the foundation. If the foundation is crooked the whole houseslowly becomes out of alignment.

 

[bogeybrown]

Bogey Brown, there is an excellent one in Tallahassee. Also some in Atlanta. An example for you: A woman came in who lives 4+ hours away. Another DC referred her to me. She had 92 degrees of scoliosis, yes the middle of her back is shaped like a"C". She had been getting steadily worse for 40 years. The first adjustment lasted for 8 months and stopped 95% of her pain. I have adjusted her 5 times in 6 years. Half of those times were because she slipped on ice or mud and fell.

Blowby, there are quite a few NUCCA DCs in Colorado. I am not yet board certified, and many who are not do excellent work. There is also one in Montrose, which is south of Grand Junction. http://www.atlasmontrose.com/

Not everyone who does NUCCA pays their yearly dues to belong to the organization and is listed on the website.

Thanks man. If I get to the point where I can afford the X-rays and treatment out of pocket then Tallahassee is potentially doable for intermittent treatment. I was visualizing the constant recurring treatments as with other forms of therapy (which haven't done shit for me).

As a bonus, if I'm driving to Tallahassee then I may as well continue on down and party with the Mikes.

 

[c1steve]

Typical charges:
$400 for the first adjustment plus the before and after x-rays.
$60-$90 for 5 additional adjustments over two -three months.

So about $900 with little or no follow up treatments. 90% of my patients are stable and do not require additional treatments after 2+ months. If I exclude the 10% of patients who never seem to become completely stable, the average number of adjustments my patients receive is 5. However some motor vehicle accident patients need more because of the instability caused by the recent whiplash action.

 

[c1steve]

I think this is an over simpllfication but: The head rests on the Atlas like a house rests on the foundation. If the foundation is crooked the whole house slowly becomes out of alignment.

That is true. Also the old computer axiom, GIGO, garbage in, garbage out holds true in this case. Where the garbage in is the incorrect information coming from the misaligned upper cervical proprioceptors.

 

[bogeybrown]

That is true. Also the old computer axiom, GIGO, garbage in, garbage out holds true in this case. Where the garbage in is the incorrect information coming from the misaligned upper cervical proprioceptors.

This is the part that made so much sense to me. Although I have numerous spinal injuries, my lower back has suffered fewer of them, yet the majority of my daily difficulties are in my extreme lower back and my hips locking up. The explanation that the proprioceptors have been basically telling my spine to misalign itself is logical.

Proprioception factors heavily into how a dog learns, so it's a concept I can at least fundamentally understand.

 

[Maggot]

I must say, its not a one size fits all. I recommended it to a friend, Zen Biker a member here, who took his sweety to the guy I go to here in Charlottesville, Mike Russamano, and so far it hasnt helped her much. It may just be that she has so many other ailments that they may be over riding the improvement she has gotten.

It has certainly helped me.

 

[jrassy]

How about work(alignment) after I shattered C1?, I also have 7 other vertebrae fused together. I have several issues but i think an adjustment might be out of the question for me.

 

[c1steve]

How about work(alignment) after I shattered C1?, I also have 7 other vertebrae fused together. I have several issues but i think an adjustment might be out of the question for me.

The adjustment is super light, the patient only feels 1 oz. of force. So if your C1 has healed, most likely it can be adjusted. Most likely you would receive tremendous benefit. There is a full board certified DC near Bloomington, I would speak to him, you would be in good hands.
Dr. Kerry L. Johnson
14859 Energy Way
Apple Valley, MN, 55124

 

[c1steve]

I must say, its not a one size fits all. I recommended it to a friend, Zen Biker a member here, who took his sweety to the guy I go to here in Charlottesville, Mike Russamano, and so far it hasnt helped her much. It may just be that she has so many other ailments that they may be over riding the improvement she has gotten.

It has certainly helped me.

I see that sometimes. A woman came to me once with about 20 major problems. Seizures, balance problems, back pain, digestive problems, seizures when in bright lights, seizures when she experiences pressure changes, such as in an airplane. NUCCA helped her a lot, but many of her problems appeared to be caused by a long standing infection that year by year had worked it's way through her body. Official diagnosis is neurofibromatosis. In her case I am fairly confident that an infection was the root cause of most of her issues.

I was able to help her tremendously by using some alternative health care devices that are not related to NUCCA.

Another example, a woman came to me two weeks ago with several issues. Trigeminal neuralgia, a problem with cranial nerve 5, will most likely improve with NUCCA. I adjusted her once, next week she measured correctly so I did not adjust. However she had significant muscle pain in her thighs. After examining her I came to the conclusion she has fibromyalgia. Muscle testing showed that it appeared to be caused by an infection. Although realigning C1 will help boost her immune system, I felt she needed more. She purchased a device that helps with overall health, hopefully she will see some improvement soon. As Maggot stated, NUCCA is excellent but will not fix everything.

 

[W54/XM-388]

Neck pain is something special.
Having tears run down your cheeks involuntarily because it hurts that bad is a unique experience.
When you get rear ended, whatever you do, don't look back till you make sure you aren't going to get hit a couple other times.
I mostly got better, but still get a bit faint or dizzy if I flex my neck upwards for too long.
A little special constant reminder of why I dislike people in the country & on the roads with no papers or insurance.

 

[Strykervet]

How about work(alignment) after I shattered C1?, I also have 7 other vertebrae fused together. I have several issues but i think an adjustment might be out of the question for me.

YOU need to talk to your back doctor. A good chiro probably wouldn't touch you with a ten foot pole, but how do you know if they are any good? Liking them isn't enough, the best doctors I usually can't stand to be around. Greedy ones that think they are the panacea to all our problems can do more damage than good. Just be careful.

This is what my back doctor told me, who happens to be married to a chiro.

 

[c1steve]

The MD back doctor that you are speaking about, sometimes they think that they are gods, and sometimes they are just plain envious of chiros that easily fix a long standing problem without drugs or surgery.. An upper cervical specialist who adjusts with one ounce of force is more likely to understand if it is safe for him to adjust someone's C1 that was once shattered.

On the other hand, you are right in that some chiros think that they can fix anything with adjustments. Letting a regular, full spine, chiro adjust C1 will usually make the patient worse.

 

[Limitless Chiro]

If you want a great resource for a chiropractor and lower back pain, check out my office site with relevant information:
Chiropractor In Charlotte and Lower Back Pain

 

[Strykervet]

Embedded into the upper cervical muscle complex are about 20,000 position sensors, called proprioceptors. When there is a misalignment between the skull and the top 2+ vertebrae, the brain receives the wrong signals from these proprioceptors. The brain then adjusts tension on the paraspinal muscles causing scoliosis and any type of twisted back. People can usually live with a crooked spine for a while, but over time the soft tissues start breaking down and pain sets in.

Anyone who has had an auto accident, bicycle accident, fell out of a tree, etc., probably has an upper cervical misalignment. The only way on earth to realign this area is through precise low force adjusting of C1. The only persons who do it with any amount of success are chiropractors who specialize in this treatment. 99% of chiropractors are not specialists and will most likely make the problem worse. I have been a NUCCA practitioner for 10 years and am finally starting to feel that I am doing very well in it. There are about 400 people in the country who do this and are capable of reliably fixing the problem. A few of them try to do their own, different, version of NUCCA, and they are a total waste of time.

Right now my success rate is about 95%, but sometimes it takes two or three adjustments before things really start to work well. 25%-30% of my patients I can fix their underlying problem in one or two adjustments. There is another style of upper cervical adjusting named Atlas Orthogonal. That works fairly well, but not as good as NUCCA. What is important is that the chiropractor takes super precise x-rays in aligned equipment, performs the adjustment, and then checks the improvement by measuring two post x-ray images. Some cases are easy, and some are very, very tricky. A new upper cervical chiropractor can usually perform well with the straight forward cases. Here are some links:

http://www.marinnucca.com/testimonials/

http://nucca.org/

Hey, haven't seen you around in a while! We talked some about my back issue way back when, lower back for me.

FWIW, I had a back doctor at VA American Lake and she's married to a Chrio (is it you? --if so, you're wife is a nice lady!). She echo'd what you said and that the good ones know when to say no, that they can only do more damage. I'm guessing she married a good one but doesn't everyone think that the first time around?

Take it easy man.

PS, back doing better, feet and knees not so much! It's all connected though like the nursery rhyme goes.

 

[Strykervet]

If you want a great resource for a chiropractor and lower back pain, check out my office site with relevant information:
Chiropractor In Charlotte and Lower Back Pain

Okay, but how many rifles do you have?

 

[Bantam1]

It’s weird this thread was revived since I just had some major issues pop up. About 15 years ago I had several bulged discs in L1-L5 with some at 6mm and some at 11mm. I had two epidural injections and months of chiropractic work (mostly traction). I have been living with pain off and on ever since. I talked to a few neurosurgeons about surgery options and none could agree on which discs would relieve my pain issues.

Fast forward to Monday morning I woke up with some major pain in my left leg/hip area. I went to work like usual and went to take my morning break. I was walking and just collapsed, like if I were doing squats and went straight to my ass. Happened twice so I managed to make it back into our building. About 90 mins later I hobbled to the break room to get a drink and collapsed again, in a much more violent way. At that point I was unable to get up on my own from the floor. My left leg in now numb on the front from my knee through my foot.

I went to a good local chiropractor since my previous one retired. He said my sacrum is crooked and took x rays. Tried some adjustments while he scheduled an MRI. I had that today and will go over the results tomorrow. Have a sweet old man walker loaner. It has 4 wheels and hand brakes. Needless to say life got real tough this week and for the first time in my life I’m nervous about my outcome. I’m 43 quickly approaching 44. I’m a large person at 6’3” 260ish. My left knee is all sorts of banged up and my left wrist is bothering me. I fear the rest of me may get fucked up before the main issue is fixed.

 

[Maggot]

It’s weird this thread was revived since I just had some major issues pop up. About 15 years ago I had several bulged discs in L1-L5 with some at 6mm and some at 11mm. I had two epidural injections and months of chiropractic work (mostly traction). I have been living with pain off and on ever since. I talked to a few neurosurgeons about surgery options and none could agree on which discs would relieve my pain issues.

Fast forward to Monday morning I woke up with some major pain in my left leg/hip area. I went to work like usual and went to take my morning break. I was walking and just collapsed, like if I were doing squats and went straight to my ass. Happened twice so I managed to make it back into our building. About 90 mins later I hobbled to the break room to get a drink and collapsed again, in a much more violent way. At that point I was unable to get up on my own from the floor. My left leg in now numb on the front from my knee through my foot.

I went to a good local chiropractor since my previous one retired. He said my sacrum is crooked and took x rays. Tried some adjustments while he scheduled an MRI. I had that today and will go over the results tomorrow. Have a sweet old man walker loaner. It has 4 wheels and hand brakes. Needless to say life got real tough this week and for the first time in my life I’m nervous about my outcome. I’m 43 quickly approaching 44. I’m a large person at 6’3” 260ish. My left knee is all sorts of banged up and my left wrist is bothering me. I fear the rest of me may get fucked up before the main issue is fixed.

Sorry to hear about your problem. Hope you find some relief.

 

[TmisterE]

I was in a rear end collision about 10 years ago and was told I had a whiplash injury, have had neck pain and headaches almost daily since. There is a Dr. Vince Fitzpatrick in Spokane Valley Wa. do you know anything about him.

 

[Alphatreedog]

Thanks for the thread Maggot . I will definitely check this out . I have two cervical , two thoracic and 1 lumbar herniation . Between those and various breaks , soft tissue tears /damage etc. if I stop movin shit goes south real quick . I don't do any meds as they eff up my already flowery disposition . If you give any gift to your kids , nieces / nephews or students tell them how fragile the body is and how dearly you'll pay for abusing it .

 

[akmike47]

My C1 is all kinds of jacked up, it makes everything from my head/face, teeth, top of my neck, to my trap, down to my finger tips knot up and feel like it's on fire.

 

[n2ishun]

I honestly wish I could describe what real spinal pain is like because I have a feeling none of you really know just how wonderful it can be.
This is a recent MRI of my spine, the black'ish looking areas are where cancer has eaten away at the bone.
Those who are familiar should immediately notice L1 is fucked.....but look up and down (and I had to clip away a bunch to not give too much info that was on screen).
Those smallish black lines in L2, 3 , 4 , 6......yea, those are more painful than L1 which is kinda so bad it no longer hurts that much.
Fire ? nah, it doesn't feel like that.
I can describe the shape of the knife blade, it's about 6-7 inches long, driven in to the hilt, and constantly moves and twists so each and every moment is a new episode in the wonderful joy of pain.
It is pain, exquisite.
I take MS contin (morphine sulphate) and Oxycontin and am on it every waking moment, it does very little to lessen the pain.
Not a chemist, but supposedly taking both together somehow makes them stronger, MS is natural morphine and oxycontin is synthetic.
So how many of you really have back pains huh ?
Once you really understand what true pain is, it becomes like a friend, it has to, or you'd go f'n nuts.

 

[remaction]

I started with a chiropractor at age 21 after a car accident. I proceeded to visit the chiropractor 20-25 times a year for the next 37 years. I finally figured out that a chiropractor was not providing any benefit (I'm a sloooow learner I guess). 4 years ago I found a NUCCA practitioner in Madison, WI. I started treatments with her and haven't seen a chiro in 4 years. Literally changed my life in regards to back pain. I still need adjustments, but even when I'm "out", the pain and discomfort are greatly reduced from what I encountered for 37 years.

 

[c1steve]

My C1 is all kinds of jacked up, it makes everything from my head/face, teeth, top of my neck, to my trap, down to my finger tips knot up and feel like it's on fire.

akmike,

As mentioned above, I am a NUCCA chiropractor. Just had a case like yours 10 days ago, Trigeminal neuralgia. I adjusted him and he had 18 hours of complete relief. He woke up in middle of the night with pain again, but it was due to clenching his teeth at night, which slightly pulls c1 out of alignment. This new patient is now out of pain, and it had been extreme for 1.5 months.

If you could find a good NUCCA chiropractor or possibly a good Atlas Orthogonal doctor, most likely you would experience relief. Go to NUCCA.org for a list of them.

 

[c1steve]

n2ishun,

I was speaking to a woman who specializes is cancer, two days ago. She states that often cancer is more of a symptom and that there are underlying issues that cause it. In her opinion, if you can find and fix the underlying problem, cancer is very curable. She sounded very credible, but who knows. Lots of people promising things. However here is her website if anyone is interested: ThrivingHealthandWellness.com.

Also look into Fenbendazole, an anti-parasite drug that has cured cancer many times. I spoke to someone with stage 4 prostate cancer, who's PSA went from 71 to 1, using Fenbendazole plus an ablative treatment. Ivermectin may do the same thing.

 

[akmike47]

akmike,

As mentioned above, I am a NUCCA chiropractor. Just had a case like yours 10 days ago, Trigeminal neuralgia. I adjusted him and he had 18 hours of complete relief. He woke up in middle of the night with pain again, but it was due to clenching his teeth at night, which slightly pulls c1 out of alignment. This new patient is now out of pain, and it had been extreme for 1.5 months.

If you could find a good NUCCA chiropractor or possibly a good Atlas Orthogonal doctor, most likely you would experience relief. Go to NUCCA.org for a list of them.

I used to have to get 3 adjustments a week to exist lol. I’ll have to look into this

 

[Doc68]

Damn, why couldn't I have seen this article before I had my surgery.

Doc

 

[Maggot]

I honestly wish I could describe what real spinal pain is like because I have a feeling none of you really know just how wonderful it can be.
This is a recent MRI of my spine, the black'ish looking areas are where cancer has eaten away at the bone.
Those who are familiar should immediately notice L1 is fucked.....but look up and down (and I had to clip away a bunch to not give too much info that was on screen).
Those smallish black lines in L2, 3 , 4 , 6......yea, those are more painful than L1 which is kinda so bad it no longer hurts that much.
Fire ? nah, it doesn't feel like that.
I can describe the shape of the knife blade, it's about 6-7 inches long, driven in to the hilt, and constantly moves and twists so each and every moment is a new episode in the wonderful joy of pain.
It is pain, exquisite.
I take MS contin (morphine sulphate) and Oxycontin and am on it every waking moment, it does very little to lessen the pain.
Not a chemist, but supposedly taking both together somehow makes them stronger, MS is natural morphine and oxycontin is synthetic.
So how many of you really have back pains huh ?
Once you really understand what true pain is, it becomes like a friend, it has to, or you'd go f'n nuts.

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Thats nasty. I have a pretty good idea of your pain. when I was about 6 I dislocated the C1 & C2. I was paralyzed for a while then got use back but have been in sever pain for 65 years. Believe me, what you may win in intensity I win in longevity Had a few toher spine injuries along the way which seem to aggravate the first..

Doc wont giv me morphine but a dilaudid once in awhile helps.

 

[c1steve]

I may have said this before, but I endured extreme sciatica for three years before trying NUCCA. Three weeks of NUCCA did more for me than three years of regular chiropractic. At one point I broke my L1 vertebrae into 53 pieces in a mountain bike accident, and later ruptured the L4 disc lifting something heavy and leaning way over.

After all that I because a long distance trail runner and did some triathlons. Almost no one goes from full on sciatica to being a long distance trail runner, and I owe it all to having C1 properly adjusted.

 

[c1steve]

Thats nasty. I have a pretty good idea of your pain. when I was about 6 I dislocated the C1 & C2. I was paralyzed for a while then got use back but have been in sever pain for 65 years. Believe me, what you may win in intensity I win in longevity Had a few toher spine injuries along the way which seem to aggravate the first..

I have a patient like that. Was in 4 major auto accidents as a teenager, just was a passenger. Neck pain for 60 years non stop. Now she has no pain most weeks, but occasionally I have to adjust her due to ligament laxity. She is so happy now, so much relieved.

Had another patient, 92 degrees of scoliosis and tons of back pain. The first adjustment lasted for 8 months, and reduced her pain by 95%. I adjusted her a total of 6 times, and have not seen her for years, so I suspect she is still pain free.

Maggot,

People like you may need to be adjusted more often, but eventually are relieved 100% of pain.

 

[akmike47]

My c4 slides out some and I push it back in, feels weird and it clicks sort of. I guess that’s what happens it definitely moves.

 

[Redmanss]

My boss goes to this chiro office in Boulder - he's loved working with them since his old chiro moved. Check them out: ***LINK DELETED***

No. And fuck off spammer.

 

[Doc68]

Post surgery.

Doc

 

[Maggot]

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Post surgery.

Doc

Damn old man, no more boxing for you, LOL.

 

[n2ishun]

Yea, that's what they want to do to me.
Fuse 6 vertebrae and implant a fentanyl pump.
Ain't real hep to it, the pump is permanent, once in it can't be removed. It goes in your abdomen on the left side and you get this garage door remote control looking thing, hit the button for a hit.
A tiny tube runs from it into the spine so it's directly mainlined to where it's needed.
Funk dat, much better to just eat a few pills here and there.
Not real keen on having 6 vertebrae being fused either....if it was 1 or 2 it'd be a different story, I'd probably go for that.

When I was diagnosed my PSA was 435 and has been as high as 465.
Yea I had a full array of radiation....wanna talk about throwing up your shoes, toenails, whatever. Yea I know all about that shit.
Funny on what sent me to the doc in the first place, the toes on my left foot turned black and hurt way worse than broken bones.
Understandably it took them a while to figure out it was prostate cancer......I mean left foot = dick cancer ?
Anyways, yea, I'm stage 4 metastatic but my PSA is down to *about* 4-5 now.....and you don't want to know how it got that low.
Some seriously fucked up shit you have to go thru.

 

[TexPatriot]

Yea, that's what they want to do to me.
Fuse 6 vertebrae and implant a fentanyl pump.
Ain't real hep to it, the pump is permanent, once in it can't be removed. It goes in your abdomen on the left side and you get this garage door remote control looking thing, hit the button for a hit.
A tiny tube runs from it into the spine so it's directly mainlined to where it's needed.
Funk dat, much better to just eat a few pills here and there.
Not real keen on having 6 vertebrae being fused either....if it was 1 or 2 it'd be a different story, I'd probably go for that.

When I was diagnosed my PSA was 435 and has been as high as 465.
Yea I had a full array of radiation....wanna talk about throwing up your shoes, toenails, whatever. Yea I know all about that shit.
Funny on what sent me to the doc in the first place, the toes on my left foot turned black and hurt way worse than broken bones.
Understandably it took them a while to figure out it was prostate cancer......I mean left foot = dick cancer ?
Anyways, yea, I'm stage 4 metastatic but my PSA is down to *about* 4-5 now.....and you don't want to know how it got that low.
Some seriously fucked up shit you have to go thru.

Bro, I don't know what to say. I didn't know PSA scores even got that high.

 

[n2ishun]

Fun fact:
They have to pull all your teeth in order to give you this drug called Zometa which strengthens bones and counteracts high levels of calcium in the bloodstream.
Yay, go me.

 

[c1steve]

I am going to add a few case studies with XRs to this thread.
First is a 6' 2" tall woman, came in recently with severe sciatica. The left side of the pelvis was 1-3/4" higher than the right, causing right nerve root compression and the leg pain.

First adjustment helped, and the post x-ray images were excellent. Next adjustment, little change, third adjustment I changed the angle of the adjustment slightly, and she feels much better. Once the head and neck were near co-linear, the body's righting ability brought her neck and head vertical, and the pelvis was only 3/8" off from level.

 

[stefan73]

C3-7 degeneration, narrowing, arthritic, two discs replaced, I gained some sensation back after the surgery. Basically T1-S5 sucks! Yay me Trying to sleep has been a bit challenging.