California: No. 1 in Gun Control, No. 1 in ‘Active Shooter Incidents’ in 2023

[PatMiles]

https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2024/06/24/california-first-gun-control-first-active-shooter-incidents-2023/

New figures from the FBI show that heavily gun-controlled California led the nation in “active shooter incidents” in 2023.
The FBI “designated 48 shootings as active shooter incidents” in 2023. California was the leading state in the nation, having 8 of the 48 incidents, Fox News reported.
ABC News commented on the FBI findings, noting, “California had the largest number of active shooting incidents with eight. The locations of the shootings were open spaces, places of businesses and education centers.”
Fox News likewise noted, “California – which has some of the toughest gun control laws in the country – led the way with eight incidents.”
Breitbart News reported previous FBI data that showed California led the U.S. in “active shooter incidents” in 2021 as well, with six such incidents.
Ironically, California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) consistently lauds the alleged success of gun control in his state while criticizing the loser gun laws in states in other parts of the country, such as Florida.
For example, on May 13, 2023, he tweeted, “It HAS to be the humidity. Why else would California’s gun violence rate be 57% lower than Florida’s?”
However, whereas the FBI data shows California led the nation with eight “active shooter incidents” in 2023, Florida only witnessed two such incidents, or one-fourth what occurred in Newsom’s state.

 

[Blue Sky Country]

California has the highest population of freaks and weirdos in the whole country. It is not a gun problem, but a freak problem...

 

[NoDopes]

Leads the country in LGBTQ+ mentally deranged people... It's only going to get worse as the kids they mutilated start to age up.

Illegal aliens probably aren't helping either.

 

[M4orturnate]

Funny how that works. Imagine if people could defend themselves there. Idk if it would make a difference at this point tho

 

[Blue Sky Country]

Funny how that works. Imagine if people could defend themselves there. Idk if it would make a difference at this point tho

Cali homes belonging to those who are aware of WTF is going on are probably some of the most monitored and defended properties around. Overlapping smart sensors, motion detectors, multiple HD cameras, you name it... Some are also walled off like the haciendas of the Southwest in the 1800s. These guys almost all have rifles or slug guns loaded and stashed in various places inside and once in a while, somebody FAFO's...

 

[M4orturnate]

Cali homes belonging to those who are aware of WTF is going on are probably some of the most monitored and defended properties around. Overlapping smart sensors, motion detectors, multiple HD cameras, you name it... Some are also walled off like the haciendas of the Southwest in the 1800s. These guys almost all have rifles or slug guns loaded and stashed in various places inside and once in a while, somebody FAFO's...

Ya but then the prosecutor comes for them, at least that's how it seems on the outside

 

[XLR308]

https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2024/06/24/california-first-gun-control-first-active-shooter-incidents-2023/

New figures from the FBI show that heavily gun-controlled California led the nation in “active shooter incidents” in 2023.
The FBI “designated 48 shootings as active shooter incidents” in 2023. California was the leading state in the nation, having 8 of the 48 incidents, Fox News reported.
ABC News commented on the FBI findings, noting, “California had the largest number of active shooting incidents with eight. The locations of the shootings were open spaces, places of businesses and education centers.”
Fox News likewise noted, “California – which has some of the toughest gun control laws in the country – led the way with eight incidents.”
Breitbart News reported previous FBI data that showed California led the U.S. in “active shooter incidents” in 2021 as well, with six such incidents.
Ironically, California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) consistently lauds the alleged success of gun control in his state while criticizing the loser gun laws in states in other parts of the country, such as Florida.
For example, on May 13, 2023, he tweeted, “It HAS to be the humidity. Why else would California’s gun violence rate be 57% lower than Florida’s?”
However, whereas the FBI data shows California led the nation with eight “active shooter incidents” in 2023, Florida only witnessed two such incidents, or one-fourth what occurred in Newsom’s state.

You shut your dirty mouth with those damaging facts and statistics.

 

[Franko]

To make things even more fun the DA's in the big cities (SF and LA) don't prosecute criminals so all kinds of bad folks who should be off the streets are out, about, and up to no good.

 

[todd]

Most of the insanity is in the major population centers (SF Bay Area, LA, San Diego,
Stockton, Sacramento). Once you get to rural California, especially the foothills, things calm down and you start to see normal people.

 

[Mwalex]

Fuck CA

 

[j-moose32]

Bumping this back up instead of making a new thread. Anyone have good collection of data like this? About “gun violence” / failure of gun control as a whole?

I’ve had some middle of the road friends asking me about gun stuff. I’ve been doing searches to try and find actual info on “pro gun” information if you will, but every Google search just send you to anti gun BS

 

[Franko]

Bumping this back up instead of making a new thread. Anyone have good collection of data like this? About “gun violence” / failure of gun control as a whole?

I’ve had some middle of the road friends asking me about gun stuff. I’ve been doing searches to try and find actual info on “pro gun” information if you will, but every Google search just send you to anti gun BS

CDC had to pull their most recent paper that contained defensive gun use statistics as it was politically unpopular as it showed just how common defensive gun use was. Here are a few sources that might help:

Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence | Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence | The National Academies Press

Read chapter Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence: In 2010, more than 105,000 people were injured or killed in the Uni...

nap.nationalacademies.org

https://reason.com/2015/03/09/how-to-count-the-defensive-use-of-guns/

This one shows just how biased and anti-gun the CDC is.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1994/10/19/sick-people-with-guns/6c7f2bd2-fa57-4d69-b927-5ceb4fa43cf4/

 

[j-moose32]

CDC had to pull their most recent paper that contained defensive gun use statistics as it was politically unpopular as it showed just how common defensive gun use was. Here are a few sources that might help:

Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence | Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence | The National Academies Press

Read chapter Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence: In 2010, more than 105,000 people were injured or killed in the Uni...

nap.nationalacademies.org

https://reason.com/2015/03/09/how-to-count-the-defensive-use-of-guns/

This one shows just how biased and anti-gun the CDC is.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1994/10/19/sick-people-with-guns/6c7f2bd2-fa57-4d69-b927-5ceb4fa43cf4/

Thank you, this is the type of stuff I’m looking for. I’ve heard of CDC info on defensive gun use, but never seen it myself/ can cite it

 

[Franko]

Thank you, this is the type of stuff I’m looking for. I’ve heard of CDC info on defensive gun use, but never seen it myself/ can cite it

It was "disappeared" pretty quickly. It makes it real hard to argue against gun ownership when they are used to stop between 300,000 and 2.5 million robberies, rapes, and murders a year.

 

[j-moose32]

And I can’t read the Washington post one, but it doesn’t take a genius to tell that the CDC is not unbiased. “Safe and effective” or something like that…

 

[j-moose32]

It was "disappeared" pretty quickly. It makes it real hard to argue against gun ownership when they are used to stop between 300,000 and 2.5 million robberies, rapes, and murders a year.

You probably don’t have a source of it by chance ? Or any other good highlights from it ? When it came out etc?

 

[Franko]

You probably don’t have a source of it by chance ? Or any other good highlights from it ? When it came out etc?

No I don't. By the time I found out about it the CDC had given in to political pressure and pulled the study and data, so now it's all secondary or tertiary sources.

Here is another solid scholarly article by the man who's research provided us with the numbers the anti gun folks went nuts over.

https://www.hoplofobia.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/2020-CDC_Surveys_Prevalance_of_DGU.pdf

 

[918v]

Fuck CA

Fuck You

 

[918v]

Ya but then the prosecutor comes for them, at least that's how it seems on the outside

What do you mean by the prosecutor coming for them?

 

[Edsel]

California has the highest population...

Glad you brought that up.

Are the stats adjusted for the population size?

Meaning, gun crimes or whatever per 100 individuals?

Multivariate Analysis for Population Density, Urban Areas, and the like?

 

[hlee]

How many people were shot in Chicago this weekend?

 

[M4orturnate]

What do you mean by the prosecutor coming for them?

Gos with my first comment. When people protect themselves in commie states the prosecutors try to lock them up

 

[375fan]

How many people were shot in Chicago this weekend?

Good question. However, it seems for some reason that the major news networks really don't mention the close to almost daily violent murders in Chicago. Could it be because Chicago has the toughest gun laws in the country, or city is run by Democrats? Today's punks and gangs in Chicago make Capone look like a bumbling amateur.

 

[918v]

Gos with my first comment. When people protect themselves in commie states the prosecutors try to lock them up

No

In ca you can defend yourself. You are legally presumed to be in fear of your life if someone breaks into your home. It’s difficult for the prosecutor to overcome that presumption. Three incidents off the top of my head: one dude breaks into a former hud home in San Bernardino. The new owner chases dude down the street and shoots him. No charges filed. Another dude enters an open garage of a home in Anaheim. Owner fights him then retreats into the house and reemerges with a shotgun and chases dude down the street and shoots him. No charges filed. Parolee fights off a burglar, then chases him down the street and stabs him with a kitchen knife in LA. No charges filed. Here’s one where I have personal knowledge: 4 white dudes fight a huge black guy at a bar. One gets a buck knife from his car and stabs black guy in the back. No charges filed.

 

[M4orturnate]

No

In ca you can defend yourself. You are legally presumed to be in fear of your life if someone breaks into your home. It’s difficult for the prosecutor to overcome that presumption. Three incidents off the top of my head: one dude breaks into a former hud home in San Bernardino. The new owner chases dude down the street and shoots him. No charges filed. Another dude enters an open garage of a home in Anaheim. Owner fights him then retreats into the house and reemerges with a shotgun and chases dude down the street and shoots him. No charges filed. Parolee fights off a burglar, then chases him down the street and stabs him with a kitchen knife in LA. No charges filed. Here’s one where I have personal knowledge: 4 white dudes fight a huge black guy at a bar. One gets a buck knife from his car and stabs black guy in the back. No charges filed.

That's surprising to here. Learn something everyday

 

[Franko]

That's surprising to here. Learn something everyday

If it went as written all three are also very unusual cases. The minute an aggressor breaks contact the ability to claim the justification of self defense ends. The only exception to this is if the reason they broke contact was to go get a weapon or some other instrument to help them then reengage.

California does have the Castle Doctrine but it only applies inside the home, chasing an attacker into the street when they are running away would normally get you a lot of jail time.

 

[918v]

It went as written and not unusual at all. Everyone thinks CA is fucked up beyond repair. It isn’t. There are some good people making good decisions still.

People, no matter where they live, should familiarize themselves with jury instructions governing the use of force. Because those will be the institutions used to judge them.

 

[j-moose32]

Chasing someone down the street and shooting them is an absolute anomaly and NOT the norm. If those cases are true, there was more to it. The worst prosecutor in the world would have a field day with that.

 

[Im2bent]

You're forgetting #1 in retards in office.

 

[j-moose32]

No I don't. By the time I found out about it the CDC had given in to political pressure and pulled the study and data, so now it's all secondary or tertiary sources.

Here is another solid scholarly article by the man who's research provided us with the numbers the anti gun folks went nuts over.

https://www.hoplofobia.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/2020-CDC_Surveys_Prevalance_of_DGU.pdf

I may start a new thread and see what else
Can be contributed. May be useful for others as well, and maybe even turn into a good source reference. Thanks for the info

 

[918v]

Chasing someone down the street and shooting them is an absolute anomaly and NOT the norm. If those cases are true, there was more to it. The worst prosecutor in the world would have a field day with that.

There is a difference between theory and practice. Prosecutors have discretion. They are not all bad.

 

[Franko]

There is a difference between theory and practice. Prosecutors have discretion. They are not all bad.

I'm jealous, your neck of the woods seems to have a good one and I'm stuck with that flaming piece of shit George Gascon.

 

[Mwalex]

Fuck You

Fuck you cunt

 

[918v]

I'm jealous, your neck of the woods seems to have a good one and I'm stuck with that flaming piece of shit George Gascon.

Just for a while longer.

 

[Charmingmander]

Most "diverse" state

Highest crime

Hmm

 

[918v]

Most "diverse" state

Highest crime

Hmm

You guys should thank CA for importing all your criminals.

 

[Charmingmander]

You guys should thank CA for importing all your criminals.

My cunt governor did that on her own.

 

[BCP]

Most "diverse" state

Highest crime

Hmm

California is also a massive success according to Democrats. It's their model for the rest of America.

 

[Franko]

California is also a massive success according to Democrats. It's their model for the rest of America.

California demonstrated to Democrats that they can just import all the voters they need to guarantee total political control. Right now California is "officially" 26% foreign born. Just imagine how strong their grip on power and how shitty America will become once Democrats flood the rest of the country with immigrants.

 

[Im2bent]

California demonstrated to Democrats that they can just import all the voters they need to guarantee total political control. Right now California is "officially" 26% foreign born. Just imagine how strong their grip on power and how shitty America will become once Democrats flood the rest of the country will immigrants.

That is the socialist regimes playback open the borders for the dregs of humanity betting on them voting for whomever they think will give them the bigger handouts. The socialists don't care if everything thing goes to hell because they are in their walled off mansions and can send their man servants out for the essentials. And only visit the upper echelon areas where low life's are not allowed.

 

[918v]

California demonstrated to Democrats that they can just import all the voters they need to guarantee total political control. Right now California is "officially" 26% foreign born. Just imagine how strong their grip on power and how shitty America will become once Democrats flood the rest of the country with immigrants.

Truth!

 

[bulletbluesky]

If Donald wins he plans to disarm all these dangerous LGBTQ-ers and immigrants in Cali