Re: Camo Question for LEO Snipers
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cowboy_bravo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> It only makes sense if you are trying to blend in that you don't carry a black weapon. To me it defeats the purpose of camo. So we paint our weapons for that reason and a few other reasons that tread into operation security so I will not discuss it on an open forum.
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Black guns are brutal, a lot of the guys on our team have painted their AR's as it doesn't do you any good to be all camo'ed up and carry a black AR or bolt. During a grow we did this summer I moved up to an overwatch position while some of our team were sidehilling directly across the canyon from me. Since they were all cammied up the only thing that stuck out were the guys who hadn't painted their guns and a couple that also had black gloves. I could spot them easily. But the guys who had brown/green gloves and painted rifles were hard to pick out. Another problem we have is our cammies are a camo pattern but our heavy vests are OD green. So when we sneak around we are fairly concealed except for the dark green square chest/vests, which sticks out a little. Some of us (including me) have spraypainted our heavy vests to try to match our cammies and it helps a lot.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">don't see the purpose in that arena. are your uniforms camo? what's the funtionality of having your rifle a different color than the uniform? didn't the 20 swat guys and apv on the front lawn already tip off the target that somethings going on?
chances are that if the target sees those 20 guys in black on the front lawn, they've seen enough "dallas swat" and other cop shows to realize there are 2 or 3 guys a block away with 700's and leopolds on them.
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A couple of guys addressed it already but from a perimeter standpoint there is also a need to be stealthy/concealed so you can put yourself in a position to have a shot. While the 20 guys in the armor on the front lawn are distracting the badguy (cause it's sexy)...if you are concealed you can move into a prime position to take the shot of opportunity that might not present itself if you are dressing up in standard black or whatever like the 20 entry guys. The point isn't to camo up to sit a block away, you don't have to camo up too much for that, the point is to camo up to move into position 25-75 yards out, as it makes those shots easier for guys like me who aren't super snipers
Perfect example was one of our sniper/spotter teams at training recently, they snuck to within 10-15 yards of a vehicle using some terrain and cover and were able to take a shot of opportunity that wouldn't have presented itself if the suspect had seen them. They would have been visible if not cammied up and concealed properly. So there is a definite reason for LEO swat personnel to camo up in all aspects, from guns to uniforms to gear.
But as far as an urban camo, I don't have a suggestion for you, as you can guess in my area we work in mostly rural settings.
