Can counties ban Communism?

They chant "no borders, no wall, no U-S-A at all"

They march with hammer and sickle flags.

They plot and plan terrorist and subversive activities, and prepare for the fall of the US government and the institution of a communist regime.

If this isn't seditious, I don't know what is.

They need to be hunted down, and publicly hanged.
 
While I despise them and think they are total idiots, you guys are talking about criminalizing political views/opinions, and you want to be really careful about that cause what happens when the pendulum swings the other way and the people in charge want to outlaw conservatives, or libertarians? People need to remember that what they propose can also then be used against them when the time is right. Like how liberals were all in favor of removing the Nuclear option until it came time to confirm Trump’s Supreme Court Picks, then they thought it should go back to more than simple majority. So just remember that your person may not always be in charge and those laws can be changed to outlaw you really quickly.

Also, I realize a lot of it is said jokingly, but it can be /probably is used as propaganda to make people think that’s what we actually want so maybe think a little more before saying stuff.
 
No, but they could be really busy and not too interested if or when some commie went 'fishing' or 'hiking'. Place I used to live there were stories about how dangerous the area was. Holes in the mountain covered by leaves that if you didn't know where to step, you could fall through, strait into the mountain, never to be seen or heard from again. Heard that exact thing may have happened to some folks looking into untaxed spirits. Some places are just dangerous.
 
you guys are talking about criminalizing political views/opinions, and you want to be really careful about that cause what happens when the pendulum swings the other way and the people in charge want to outlaw conservatives, or libertarians?

wtf do you think is going on? Seriously, where have you been for the last 3 decades? We have been pushed to the wall despite our infinite patience, too much patience in fact, and you are acting like we are the aggressors and just took the first swing against an innocent victim.
 
wtf do you think is going on? Seriously, where have you been for the last 3 decades? We have been pushed to the wall despite our infinite patience, too much patience in fact, and you are acting like we are the aggressors and just took the first swing against an innocent victim.

Wrong! When did I ever say it hasn’t been happening, or that people aren’t trying to do it right now? I am just saying, be careful what you wish for because it can always be turned around on you. And while I agree that it has happened and is happening, I don’t think it’s something that we should be trying to do on either side.
 
If we all adhered to the vision of the Founding Fathers and the Constitution, left wing ideologies like communism, socialism, and fascism wouldn't fall on the spectrum of acceptable opinion- 'progressives' would be arrested and deported.

It's a result of democrat cultural subversion that we even tolerate leftism.
 
wtf do you think is going on? Seriously, where have you been for the last 3 decades? We have been pushed to the wall despite our infinite patience, too much patience in fact, and you are acting like we are the aggressors and just took the first swing against an innocent victim.
And you're thinking giving the gov the power to outlaw (more) thought is a good idea?
 
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If we all adhered to the vision of the Founding Fathers and the Constitution, left wing ideologies like communism, socialism, and fascism wouldn't fall on the spectrum of acceptable opinion- 'progressives' would be arrested and deported.

It's a result of democrat cultural subversion that we even tolerate leftism.

exactly.
 
If we all adhered to the vision of the Founding Fathers and the Constitution, left wing ideologies like communism, socialism, and fascism wouldn't fall on the spectrum of acceptable opinion- 'progressives' would be arrested and deported.

It's a result of democrat cultural subversion that we even tolerate leftism.

I agree, we have bastardized the constitution and need to get back to the original or the original intent. But our founding fathers and constitution never tried to outlaw thought and opinion.
 
I agree, we have bastardized the constitution and need to get back to the original or the original intent. But our founding fathers and constitution never tried to outlaw thought and opinion.

actually they blew the heads off the Tories who were attempting to prevent our independence. Later, Adams signed the Alien and sedition act against the Anti-Federalists which in turn helped Jefferson get elected.
I suspect our founding fathers would round up the communists and they would end up in Canada.
 
actually they blew the heads off the Tories who were attempting to prevent our independence. Later, Adams signed the Alien and sedition act against the Anti-Federalists which in turn helped Jefferson get elected.
I suspect our founding fathers would round up the communists and they would end up in Canada.

You are talking about different things here. Yes, they killed people who tried to stop our independence during a war. Trying to say we should outlaw or even kill people who have a different view on some things is not the answer. We need to combat the “Communists and Socialists” by educating them, having honest discussions, showing them why and how they are wrong. A true “communist” trying to subvert the government by being a so called “spy”, yes, they should be criminally punished. But most of the people being discussed as “communists” aren’t for the complete overthrow of our government and aren’t really trying to kill or imprison anyone who has a different view. They believe our country should operate differently in some ways because they have been lied to, indoctrinated and given a false view of communism or socialism, which why they need to shown the truth and educated about what it really is, not locked up. People have to realize there is a difference between the two types of people being called “communists” and most of them are just misinformed and misguided, not trying to “impede our independence”.
 
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ANTIFA, and those who promote them, needs to be officially labeled a terrorist organization and an active and dangerous terroristic threat. That will get the ball rolling.

What fuck is Trump waiting for? If it were me, among that first bunch of EOs signed on Day One would have been an executive order declaring ANTIFA and all supporters and allied groups terrorist organizations.

On Day Two, ANTIFA would have been rounded up and sent to Guantanamo Bay (or the far side of the moon).
 
You are talking about different things here. Yes, they killed people who tried to stop our independence during a war. Trying to say we should outlaw or even kill people who have a different view on some things is not the answer. We need to combat the “Communists and Socialists” by educating them, having honest discussions, showing them why and how they are wrong. A true “communist” trying to subvert the government by being a so called “spy”, yes, they should be criminally punished. But most of the people being discussed as “communists” aren’t for the complete overthrow of our government and aren’t really trying to kill or imprison anyone who has a different view. They believe our country should operate differently in some ways because they have been lied to, indoctrinated and given a false view of communism or socialism, which why they need to shown the truth and educated about what it really is, not locked up. People have to realize there is a difference between the two types of people being called “communists” and most of them are just misinformed and misguided, not trying to “impede our independence”.
Misguided and misinformed ????
 
You are talking about different things here. Yes, they killed people who tried to stop our independence during a war. Trying to say we should outlaw or even kill people who have a different view on some things is not the answer. We need to combat the “Communists and Socialists” by educating them, having honest discussions, showing them why and how they are wrong. A true “communist” trying to subvert the government by being a so called “spy”, yes, they should be criminally punished. But most of the people being discussed as “communists” aren’t for the complete overthrow of our government and aren’t really trying to kill or imprison anyone who has a different view. They believe our country should operate differently in some ways because they have been lied to, indoctrinated and given a false view of communism or socialism, which why they need to shown the truth and educated about what it really is, not locked up. People have to realize there is a difference between the two types of people being called “communists” and most of them are just misinformed and misguided, not trying to “impede our independence”.

bullshit. You obviously never studied the psychology of communism and fascism. As their political power grows, the things they do in the name of their cause becomes more inhuman, pitiless, and worst of all it is done with a religious fervor. And they are in the full fervor of the 'holiness' of their cause; it's fully feeding on itself, sucking in the ignorant, especially kids, to become true believers. Just like the Komsomol and Hitler youth did in the past. Their movement is a religion, and international socialism is their messiah. Who do you think you are to convert them back to rationalism? So I'm done with you. I'm not going to argue with someone who is ignorant of the reality of what their enemy is. I guess it is commendable that you want to see radical socialists as reasonable people who can be told that water is wet, fire burns, life is unfair, humanity is imperfect and not able to achieve perfection through government mandated equality, and Utopia will never be built on Earth. But as someone who has had some of my own relatives sent to the gulag and shot up against a wall, I say fuck them and anyone who would defend them. I know who these people are, even if you dont. So I'm done with you, goodbye.
 
by educating them, having honest discussions, showing them why and how they are wrong........A true “communist”

Do we have to do this while they are still above ground & drawing breath or afterwards, when we will have a higher likelihood of actually “educating” them.

Also, do you consider AOC and her ilk “true communists”? Why or why not?
 
bullshit. You obviously never studied the psychology of communism and fascism. As their political power grows, the things they do in the name of their cause becomes more inhuman, pitiless, and worst of all it is done with a religious fervor. And they are in the full fervor of the 'holiness' of their cause; it's fully feeding on itself, sucking in the ignorant, especially kids, to become true believers. Just like the Komsomol and Hitler youth did in the past. Their movement is a religion, and international socialism is their messiah. Who do you think you are to convert them back to rationalism? So I'm done with you. I'm not going to argue with someone who is ignorant of the reality of what their enemy is. I guess it is commendable that you want to see radical socialists as reasonable people who can be told that water is wet, fire burns, life is unfair, humanity is imperfect and not able to achieve perfection through government mandated equality, and Utopia will never be built on Earth. But as someone who has had some of my own relatives sent to the gulag and shot up against a wall, I say fuck them and anyone who would defend them. I know who these people are, even if you dont. So I'm done with you, goodbye.

Where do you get that I am defending them? And you are right, I’ve never had a family member shot at the Gulag, I’m sorry you did, but acting like because of that I am just irrelevant? What you don’t get is that I am not even arguing with you about the evils of communism or what communism is, I was just saying that when you start criminalizing opinion or political views you can very easily end up on the other side of things.

The whole “I’m done with you” thing is part of the problem. Nobody can have a discussion anymore. If you think the only thing to do is find people who agree with you or otherwise be done with them or lock them up then okay, I happen to disagree.
 
IMO a lot the Dems/communists want Trump supporters dead and they want to do away with American sovereignty and the Constitution.

The worst part is they want to spend our tax dollars furthering this cause and supporting an invasion of criminal aliens.

exactly, man.
nobody now gives 2 shits if some random grandparents or half of their family were shot by communists back in the day. But what every sane Constitutional Conservative should care about, is that lesson should not be bullshitted and minimized away, so that one day it isnt the past getting dragged up against a wall and shot, it's your/my wife and kids. Because the leftists absolutely do believe that "eggs have to get broken" for their new society to come about. And anyone & everything in their way has to be removed. And they will do the most unspeakable things under the most noble excuses. Anybody who underestimates their evil knows nothing about history.
 
Think globally.

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While I despise them and think they are total idiots, you guys are talking about criminalizing political views/opinions, and you want to be really careful about that cause what happens when the pendulum swings the other way and the people in charge want to outlaw conservatives, or libertarians? People need to remember that what they propose can also then be used against them when the time is right. Like how liberals were all in favor of removing the Nuclear option until it came time to confirm Trump’s Supreme Court Picks, then they thought it should go back to more than simple majority. So just remember that your person may not always be in charge and those laws can be changed to outlaw you really quickly.

Also, I realize a lot of it is said jokingly, but it can be /probably is used as propaganda to make people think that’s what we actually want so maybe think a little more before saying stuff.
They already are trying to criminalize gun owners, anti-abortion views, anti-tranny views, and patriotism. The time for playing is nice is over. There are some things that shouldnt be legal, and communism is one of them.
 
There is a right and a wrong way to do things. Outlawing ideals is un-American in my opinion. Outlawing words at all in any circumstances is un-American in my opinion. Being accountable for what you say and your actions would be, however, a different story all together.

Communism is the siren song of governments. It will take your life, it will take your children's lives, you become just another instrument in their symphony of destruction. It is a notion more toxic than racism, sexism, ageism, ableism, and transphobia— it is a fucking plague of ignorance that kills what cannot sustain it, and what can sustain it will be discarded from this mortal coil the instant there is any deviation from usefulness. It preys on the compassionate and the selfless as readily as it enables the predatory and selfish. If America still had half it's goddamn heart left it would vote out the socialists currently in our government, it would educate its citizens to the astounding evil that any powerful government is capable of exercising. Our government hasn't because it would result in citizens trending their votes toward them having less control, and now we have a country where citizens fear their government in many of the same ways.

The enemy is not communist ideals or foolish politically active neophytes, the enemy is any government which cannot be controlled by its citizenry. Democracy is two wolves and a sheep arguing over what to have for dinner, communism and socialism are like two sheep and one wolf deciding to have lamb for dinner. Both systems are too idealistic on their own without strict limits to powers of the majority and a system of checks and balances. We do have that in our Constitution, but the further we get from it the worse things will get. If operated in accordance with the ultimate law of our land communism would not be permitted, not illegal mind you, but not accepted. Invalid. Through the revolving doors of generations we have strayed and forgotten the true nature of man, we have unlashed ourselves from the mast and are scurrying across the deck like cockroaches toward the only soothing sound we can hear which might give us respite from our own shortcomings. Of course, such a notion is logically retarded, but it's not worthy of a crime in my opinion.
 
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bullshit. You obviously never studied the psychology of communism and fascism. As their political power grows, the things they do in the name of their cause becomes more inhuman, pitiless, and worst of all it is done with a religious fervor. And they are in the full fervor of the 'holiness' of their cause; it's fully feeding on itself, sucking in the ignorant, especially kids, to become true believers. Just like the Komsomol and Hitler youth did in the past. Their movement is a religion, and international socialism is their messiah. Who do you think you are to convert them back to rationalism? So I'm done with you. I'm not going to argue with someone who is ignorant of the reality of what their enemy is. I guess it is commendable that you want to see radical socialists as reasonable people who can be told that water is wet, fire burns, life is unfair, humanity is imperfect and not able to achieve perfection through government mandated equality, and Utopia will never be built on Earth. But as someone who has had some of my own relatives sent to the gulag and shot up against a wall, I say fuck them and anyone who would defend them. I know who these people are, even if you dont. So I'm done with you, goodbye.

Ease up, homie. USA has some advantages.. folks are too stupid and lazy to make it work.... for now.

We're quickly approaching the 6th generation who is going to be raised entirely in a commie environment, though.

Those will be the fuckers that do it, unless we can put a stop to the agenda driven education system. We've got about 26 years til the bodies start piling up for real.
 
Wrong! When did I ever say it hasn’t been happening, or that people aren’t trying to do it right now? I am just saying, be careful what you wish for because it can always be turned around on you. And while I agree that it has happened and is happening, I don’t think it’s something that we should be trying to do on either side.
There is good and evil, right and wrong in this world. Wanting to eradicate conservative whites off the face of the planet should be met with overwhelming aggresion from the oppressed (us).
 
While I despise them and think they are total idiots, you guys are talking about criminalizing political views/opinions, and you want to be really careful about that cause what happens when the pendulum swings the other way and the people in charge want to outlaw conservatives, or libertarians? People need to remember that what they propose can also then be used against them when the time is right.


First of all, no one is calling for the criminalizing of political views or opinions. We're talking about enforcement of existing laws against seditious and terrorist entities. It is NOT a political "opinion" or "view" to advocate for the destruction of the United States.

Secondly, the pendulum argument does not apply - since these entities have already declared their intent to criminalize our side and use the power of the state to physically act when they have the authority to do so. Therefore, by acting defensively against them - no PRECEDENT IS BEING SET which could later be used against us.

Finally, and a sarcastic news flash of sorts, they have already criminalized much of our politics, ideas and opinions and people are being arrested, incarcerated, sued, boycotted, harrassed, threatened, fired from their jobs, losing their homes/businesses and the such - for being nothing more than normal, regular patriots. The "war" is already on...it is just in its earliest stages.

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Muslims who speak the same sedition and violence that communists do get investigated, arrested and imprisoned. Communists get a pass. In fact, they are shielded by the media either through apologetic reporting or total omission of their activities. They also have allies in government at the local, state and federal levels. They also have the support of several billionaire financiers.
 
The protection and benefits of the Constitution do not extend to non US citizens, also known as ‘foreigners’. Seditious and traitorous citizens are to be stripped of rights and protection, also known as execution. Otherwise the system would collapse, which it is precisely what we’re experiencing.

If you believe it should extend to all, explain how it works in the real world. The argument that ‘if we all just followed the original intent’, is just as utopian as communism.
 
Calling things you don't like communist is just going to make a lot of people sympathetic to communism which seems to be happening now. That and how effective China has been at growing its economy is the biggest reason why to many young people support communism now. But, no one is really a communist unless they are part of the communist party. That is how communism has always worked and always will.
 
Socialism and/or communism, at its core, rejects the premise of individual freedoms and rights. It’s not just an economic system it’s an ideological system.

That ideology is antithetical to the underlying basis of all the values and principles that our nation was founded upon, summed up in one word: Freedom.

In THIS country, the rights and freedoms of the individual are sacrosanct and PARAMOUNT! That includes the right to bear arms, which SHALL NOT be infringed.

There is no middle ground or fence-sitting when it comes to this issue. You are either pro-freedom and individual rights or you are for collectivism and socialism, a system that reduces humans to insects (think worker bees or ants or roaches in a typical colony).

Hope this clears up any confusion or misunderstandings around why those that love liberty hate socialism and communism.

The two cannot coexist - there can only be one.
 
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In this country, without any meaningful enforcement of the rights safeguarding individual liberties, anything anybody wants to say about any freedom is exactly as true as what anyone else chooses to say.

In short, not much.

We let this happen, and yes, it's already happened. Can nobody read? Does nobody actually understand why the MSM is so strident, and why the Schiff Party is dancing all day? Please tell me we're not that stupid. Please tell me somebody else actually realizes this BS is just a big bluff.

What we are seeing today is simply the wolf explaining the new way of the world to the chickens.

Whenever I hear someone explaining how we defeat this thing in the courts and in the voting booth, I keep hearing the ancient refrain, "No balls at all, no balls at all, everyone knows they've got no balls at all....!"

Democratic 'rule' is nothing more than the sheep and the chickens telling someone else, the Wolf, to watch their backs. We got what we begged for.

Political Correctness has created a new strain of Eunuchs in this Nation.

Washington put it correctly. When the government takes away the people's guns, it's necessary for the people to take away the government's right to rule.

We fought a war against the world's strongest power and won, even though only 3% of us actually got off our asses and really did anything about it. We wouldn't be talking about any of this if we hadn't.

But that requires balls, which are not in evidence.

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When you look at what has been “our side”’s amount of educating (and by that I mean vocal policies explained, heated debates on the floor (only some do it with proper gusto) compared to how much “they” fight we look weak as hell in a lot of ways...at least Trump is basically rockin’ it, but he’s one guy and his side is not properly formed anymore, “swamp factor” so much is needed that isn’t gettin’ it done well.
 
Well geez guys, if we are already at war with all these people why aren’t you are guys out there making use of your precision rifles executing these communists? If that’s the only way to stop it and it’s already started what are you waiting for?

People trying to turn this country into something else isn’t new, it’s the fact it’s catching on that is scaring so many people and forcing people to go so extreme.
 
We Americans have been in a cold war with democrats for at least 60 years, but most sheep don't realize it. Some are finally seeing it, but many Americans STILL don't recognize the inside threat called the democrat party.

Check out some of Yuri Bezmenov's videos on YT- he was a former KGB agent who defected to Kanada. He specialized in cultural subversion, and in the early 80s he said the left had nearly completed the process of undermining American culture from within.
 
With a statement like that is why you will have a difficult time having a rational discussion.
If you haven't noticed a lot of people here have sworn a oath (maybe you did as well) law abiding patriots that get passionate about that and sometimes say shit I don't necessarily agree with.
But to ask why they aren't out executing with their rifles is not a good way start a healthy discussion.
And yes we have been at war with the communists for over a century that I know of some overtly some covertly.
Try a little different approach and you might be able to have a productive conversation.
What is the difference between a socialist and a communist? I'm curious. Who does Antifa align with? What is their goal?
 
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With a statement like that is why you will have a difficult time having a rational discussion.
If you haven't noticed a lot of people here have sworn a oath (maybe you did as well) law abiding patriots that get passionate about that and sometimes say shit I don't necessarily agree with.
But to ask why they aren't out executing with their rifles is not a good way start a healthy discussion.
And yes we have been at war with the communists for over a century that I know of some overtly some covertly.
Try a little different approach and you might be able to have a productive conversation.
What is the difference between a socialist and a communist? I'm curious. Who does Antifa align with? What is their goal?
Communist, socialist both are the same in my mind. Wrong and has no place in the US
 
We Americans have been in a cold war with democrats for at least 60 years, but most sheep don't realize it. Some are finally seeing it, but many Americans STILL don't recognize the inside threat called the democrat party.

Check out some of Yuri Bezmenov's videos on YT- he was a former KGB agent who defected to Kanada. He specialized in cultural subversion, and in the early 80s he said the left had nearly completed the process of undermining American culture from within.
Bezmenov is important to watch.

Suvorov, Solshenitsyn, and Bukovsky absolutely have to be read.

on the other side, Bukharin's ABC of communism is the guidebook of "progressives" , as is Saul Alinsky's Rules for radicals, which he dedicated to Satan. Lenin wrote a few manifestos, as did Trotsky.

in short, the more you evaluate the actions and promises of progressive leftists, the more you see they are nothing but rebranded Bolsheviks.
 
Tipping my hat to @Darayavaus for calling it like he sees it.

I find it hard to fathom having rational conversation with people who’s ideals at heart give zero shits about the liberty of you or your heirs.

When the future of American liberty is proposed to be put on the table for “discussion, let’s just talk about it”; this stuff comes to mind.
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I apparently didn't push the correct button. I was looking for blasers response. Just crickets from him so far.

Because I was out shooting. Sorry I don’t monitor Snipers Hide all day long. And if you read the entire thread I have been trying to have a discussion but it comes back to everyone saying we need to imprison or kill them cause we are already at war. That’s why I said if they feel that’s the solution why aren’t they doing it?

Maybe you guys can clear something up for me, since this thread was started with the idea of locking people up at the county level, who are you guys considering “communists”? Every democrat? Your neighbor who thinks Medicare for all is a good idea? By the way it sounds, we are discussing locking up or killing about half the country. Especially since again, it started by discussing it at the county level, not just AOC and her ilk.
 
Because I was out shooting. Sorry I don’t monitor Snipers Hide all day long. And if you read the entire thread I have been trying to have a discussion but it comes back to everyone saying we need to imprison or kill them cause we are already at war. That’s why I said if they feel that’s the solution why aren’t they doing it?

Maybe you guys can clear something up for me, since this thread was started with the idea of locking people up at the county level, who are you guys considering “communists”? Every democrat? Your neighbor who thinks Medicare for all is a good idea? By the way it sounds, we are discussing locking up or killing about half the country. Especially since again, it started by discussing it at the county level, not just AOC and her ilk.

It sounds like your frame of reference is preventing you from seeing things from the perspective of the Founding Fathers.