You do realize that if you remove the turret and turn the stem (with the convenient screwdriver slot), to reset your zero stop, you'll most likely find your missing elevation.
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I am using a Leupold Mark 5-HD 3-18. I wish it had more power, but no tracking problems.I gotta vent, guys, skip this if you don't care.
I was having tracking and return-to-zero issues, like 4-5%, with my Mark5-HD 5-25 so I sent it in about five weeks ago. I just got it back and immediately attempted to validate the tracking as best I could -- weighted RRS tripod with VYCE clamped solidly on an old quad rail, scope gently but snugly mounted in its Spuhr mount. It became immediately obvious that the erector stops moving after about 5 mils up, even though as received it would dial up 22.0 mils. That's 17 mils of elevation that doesn't work. I hope they're not so buried in covid19 problems that they can't do it right the 2nd time so that I can sell it with a clean conscience.
My confidence in Leupold is shattered. If they sent a brand new one, I couldn't trust it. I'm pissed because I like the scope, the glass is incredibly clear, the scope is light, and I love the feel and operation of the elevation turret. Now I'm down a good scope for god knows how long.
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Heard back from Leupold, they sent a shipping label to send it back, so we'll see what happens come late August / early September.
I forgot to post the videos! Apologies for the strugglebus with PhoneSkope, no idea how people get good video through scopes.
You do realize that if you remove the turret and turn the stem (with the convenient screwdriver slot), to reset your zero stop, you'll most likely find your missing elevation.
If it was adjusting just fine before you mounted. It sounds like you over torqued and smashed the tube......
that can be fixed easily without sending it in. A lot of ours have elevation set from the factory half way or less than the advertised full elevation travel. Most are set in the middle. Dial up loosen the screws. Slip turret down tighten screw. Repeat as much as needed until it hits Third rev.I gotta vent, guys, skip this if you don't care.
I was having tracking and return-to-zero issues, like 4-5%, with my Mark5-HD 5-25 so I sent it in about five weeks ago. I just got it back and immediately attempted to validate the tracking as best I could -- weighted RRS tripod with VYCE clamped solidly on an old quad rail, scope gently but snugly mounted in its Spuhr mount. It became immediately obvious that the erector stops moving after about 5 mils up, even though as received it would dial up 22.0 mils. That's 17 mils of elevation that doesn't work. I hope they're not so buried in covid19 problems that they can't do it right the 2nd time so that I can sell it with a clean conscience.
My confidence in Leupold is shattered. If they sent a brand new one, I couldn't trust it. I'm pissed because I like the scope, the glass is incredibly clear, the scope is light, and I love the feel and operation of the elevation turret. Now I'm down a good scope for god knows how long.
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I gotta vent, guys, skip this if you don't care.
I was having tracking and return-to-zero issues, like 4-5%, with my Mark5-HD 5-25 so I sent it in about five weeks ago. I just got it back and immediately attempted to validate the tracking as best I could -- weighted RRS tripod with VYCE clamped solidly on an old quad rail, scope gently but snugly mounted in its Spuhr mount. It became immediately obvious that the erector stops moving after about 5 mils up, even though as received it would dial up 22.0 mils. That's 17 mils of elevation that doesn't work. I hope they're not so buried in covid19 problems that they can't do it right the 2nd time so that I can sell it with a clean conscience.
My confidence in Leupold is shattered. If they sent a brand new one, I couldn't trust it. I'm pissed because I like the scope, the glass is incredibly clear, the scope is light, and I love the feel and operation of the elevation turret. Now I'm down a good scope for god knows how long.
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My confidence in Leupold is shattered.
From the video it sounds like he's cranking on the turret but nothing is moving. If the turret was bottomed out it wouldn't click.that can be fixed easily without sending it in. A lot of ours have elevation set from the factory half way or less than the advertised full elevation travel. Most are set in the middle. Dial up loosen the screws. Slip turret down tighten screw. Repeat as much as needed until it hits Third rev.
BTW, how much of Leupold stuff is made here vs China?
You’re right ignore my previous comment please. I didn’t read all the comments and missed the one with the video. “On this episode of that’s fucked up” That’s fucked up!From the video it sounds like he's cranking on the turret but nothing is moving. If the turret was bottomed out it wouldn't click.
china? so much that they're thinking of changing the company name to Reupord.
You are absolutely correct! Somehow I missed the videos.It wouldn’t keep clicking or the turret wouldn’t continue to rotate like it is if it hit the zero stop, if you watch his video.
I'm not a fan of the reticles.Serious question; why do people buy the Mk5 when the Mk6 3-18 is a thing?
china? so much that they're thinking of changing the company name to Reupord.
I got a BPS mk5 and already had to send it back for internal debris on the lens so L isn’t off to a good start for me either.
Leupold’s QA seems to have fallen in recent years. And with the various better brand and quality options out there, I haven’t bought any Leupold scopes in years. I am not even sure they are even competitive in this space nowadays.
Yeah, I meant QC, quality control. I agree that the above is only my opinion. I can only vote with my wallet. In the past year and a half, I bought new a NF 7-35, a SB PM2, and 2 Minox ZP5. In all the discussions, I never considered another Leupold.I assume you mean {QC-quality control} and not [QA-questions and answers}.
Think about how many scopes Reupord makes. Millions right? Now, how many have you seen? 100k, 100, 10, 1? And what year of manufacture were the scopes you saw? How do you think you have any idea what their QC as a whole is like in any year or time frame? You sound like you are just trying to bash them in one of the most common ways we see people bash any manufacture they don't like, erroneous claims about QC.
Haha, and the Vortex guys came out of the woodwork every single time to argue with you.![]()
You would also like Vortex.I have always had good performance with Leupold. Don’t have a MK 5, but I have 3 single power MK4s, a MK6 (3-18), and a MK8 (3.5-25) and two deltas on pistols. All are fantastic. I have never had a problem that I didn’t cause except for one 24x fixed power I bought used at a flea market for $10. In humid weather, or going inside to out, it fogged up. Leupold fixed it free.
I have had Leupold service done 4 times in my life as I recall. First time was Almost 40 years ago when I was a young kid, opening day of hunting season, I dropped my dad’s prized high grade Remington 30-06 rifle and damaged the scope and mount (thank god the scope protected the rifle) Had to listen to him bitch for the 1 1/2 hour drive to Leupold’s business location in Beaverton, Or. Handed them the entire rifle with scope—an hour later, they handed back rifle, new mount, bore sighted and with a newer, more expensive scope—free. Saved my butt.
Next time, 20 years later, I took the brand new wife hunting for the first time—she didn’t want to get out of the truck “too cold she said”. As she sat in the passenger seat, I leaned rifle against the driver’s door while I geared up—then wife leans over and opens drivers side door. My 10x mk4 perfectly lands on the scope’s bell and the only big rock for 10 miles. Leupold replaced the damaged bell and did a full cleaning (Somehow got some minute scratches out of the objective as well)—free. I bought this scope used and was about 10 years in my Possession then .
My last service was my fault again—brand new MK8, brand new rifle. First time to zero, and I left scope instructions at home. Thought it was similar to MK6. Unscrewed set screw too far and “boing”—turret squeeze levers, ball bearing, and a spring went flying. I physically saw the ball bearing roll off the shooting bench into the gravel. I looked for hours and tried using a magnet and couldn’t find it. Thank god leupold had a 2 week turn-around time and free repair.
I have had excellent service from leupold and very quick return times. I can’t say the same for other scopes. I waited 7 months to get a Schmidt and Bender flashdot repaired (failed 3days after new) when the dot quit working. Had a Night Force NSX with a stripped turret knob that took several months to get back—and if memory serves—I got a bill.
Some high-end scopes have horrible warranties. Before I bought the MK8, I was considering Schmitt and Bender’s PMII. It only had a year or two and didn’t have a lifetime warranty as did the leupold (and after the 7month wait for my flashdot), the value wasn’t there.
I understand many people may have different experiences, but I hate to see a company, that in my experience has “done me right” for many, many years get bashed. As I said earlier, the OP was about a Mk5 (which I don’t own), but I can comment about the excellent service I have always received from Leupold.
I have several of the M-8 1" scopes on varmint rifles. Called Leupold to have one worked on. I was told by Tech services that they don't even look at them any more. LIFE TIME WARRENTY :-(
In Reupord's defense they will send back a newer version of whatever obsolete, broken junk gets sent in. So if your old generation Japanese glassed Vari-X scope takes a crap, you'll get a shiny new Chicom one which is so light that you have to wonder if they are using real glass or plastic for the lenses. And with their image "quality", I'm guessing it's plastic.Lifetime warranty doesn't mean what people believe it does. Lifetime of product, not your lifetime.
Lifetime of product= so long as produced and or parts available. Typically the language is "limited lifetime"
Both of my Mk5's have been flawless for the two years that I've been using them, hundreds and hundreds of big magnum rounds fired beneath them.
Wish I could say the same for my new Razor AMG, it's about to go back for the second time and I've only had the piece of shit for 3 months!!! I'm having serious buyers remorse
Parallax knob started grinding and it won't focus, the exact same issue twice and I've shot less than 100 rounds with it.What was the issue?
How does he get his eyes to do that? I tried, can't do it.
I paid $3k each for two gen 2 Khales k624i’s and promptly had to send one back to Austria because it wouldn’t track for doodie. It was gone for about 3 months as I recall. With all the stuff going on in our country I’m more likely, not less likely to go with an American based company. BTW, how much of Leupold stuff is made here vs China?
How does he get his eyes to do that? I tried, can't do it.