CCI "quiet" suppressed?
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About 320 fps of velocity. I've heard many with semi auto pistols and rifles complain about cycling issues. Bolt gun..... no problem.
As for decibel levels, I haven't done a comparison. My Axion suppressor is awfully quiet with CCI SV and I doubt the Quiet will get that low unsuppressed. A friend gave me 7 or 8 boxes but I haven't taken the time to compare it yet because I typically shoot 50/100/200yds. If you're shooting at 25yds in a noise sensitive area it would probably be worth a try.
As for decibel levels, I haven't done a comparison. My Axion suppressor is awfully quiet with CCI SV and I doubt the Quiet will get that low unsuppressed. A friend gave me 7 or 8 boxes but I haven't taken the time to compare it yet because I typically shoot 50/100/200yds. If you're shooting at 25yds in a noise sensitive area it would probably be worth a try.
Yeah, there's a difference. One has a sonic crack, the other doesn't.
Geco makes a bolt gun only ammo that is both subsonic AND will cycle most .22 semi actions provided theyr'e clean. However, I can't recommend them in good conscience given they're owned by RUAG and RUAG is currently ass raping a US company, no lube included, taking their money AND their designs and telling 'em to fuck off. With intentions of selling that company's product under their own line. The full story is on here somewhere, LL or any one of the mods could certainly point you to it. Or you can take my word for it and just stay the fuck away from anyting RUAG/GECO/NORMA.
Yes, it includes Norma, which sucks since I was considering .338 Norma possibly instead of .338 LM and that Geco bolt gun ammo was cheap and worked like a champ, but some things aren't worth selling out on.
So I'm looking for a new round and I've been told the CCI suppressed ammo definitely won't cycle an action and on top of that, barely clocks 700fps or so... The Geco shit was good to right at 1000 IIRC.
Geco makes a bolt gun only ammo that is both subsonic AND will cycle most .22 semi actions provided theyr'e clean. However, I can't recommend them in good conscience given they're owned by RUAG and RUAG is currently ass raping a US company, no lube included, taking their money AND their designs and telling 'em to fuck off. With intentions of selling that company's product under their own line. The full story is on here somewhere, LL or any one of the mods could certainly point you to it. Or you can take my word for it and just stay the fuck away from anyting RUAG/GECO/NORMA.
Yes, it includes Norma, which sucks since I was considering .338 Norma possibly instead of .338 LM and that Geco bolt gun ammo was cheap and worked like a champ, but some things aren't worth selling out on.
So I'm looking for a new round and I've been told the CCI suppressed ammo definitely won't cycle an action and on top of that, barely clocks 700fps or so... The Geco shit was good to right at 1000 IIRC.
SV 22lr ammo "shouldn't" have a sonic crack, because SV is subsonic. In fact, pretty much all match grade 22lr ammo is subsonic. I cannot think of a- non HV- 22lr offering that IS supersonic. Lapua CenterX is 1072 fps, according to their testing, and functions in my Kidd 10/22 perfectly well.
CCI standard velocity is subsonic also.
Heading to Academy in a bit and figured I might pick up a box of the CCI quiet to try out. I'll be using it in a bolt gun so cycling isn't an issue. I want to compare the two side by side to see if the ~300fps reduction actually equates to a noticeable difference in sound through my El Camino.
I'm not comparing suppressed to unsuppressed. I'm wanting to know if there's any difference between the two suppressed. With both being subsonic I'm assuming any difference through a can will be slight or non existent. I don't have testing equipment, but I have a couple shooting buddies going with me so I'll alternate rounds in the mag between quiet and SV and see if any of us can tell the difference.
I don't have the exact info here in front of me but the 700 something fps CCI doesn't cycle with a can but the 900 something fps does...
Yes. The CCI Quiet is stupid quiet. I have shot it with the same can on 3 or so hosts. Quieter than SV, but I find accuracy kind of stinks. Maybe good for a 50' shot on a chipmunk with rifle. Where SV suppressed sounds like a quiet air rifle, the quiet stuff sounds like a sound ball point pen. Not very scientific, I know, but I took a video a while ago with my pen at the range and shooting the quiets so its what i have to compare. Shot out of a Savage MKII FVSR with Spectre II can.
Sidenotes:
- The CCI Quiet really does kind of suck for knockdown. Had a lot of runoffs with it.
- There is a CCI Quiet segmented hollow point that is better, but hard to find. Accuracy is still mediocre.
- Better than that is the CCI subsonic segmented hollow point that goes 1050 fps. Flies close enough to SV that you can use same holdovers/zero. Nothing runs with these. Loudest thing you hear is the animal pop...
Sidenotes:
- The CCI Quiet really does kind of suck for knockdown. Had a lot of runoffs with it.
- There is a CCI Quiet segmented hollow point that is better, but hard to find. Accuracy is still mediocre.
- Better than that is the CCI subsonic segmented hollow point that goes 1050 fps. Flies close enough to SV that you can use same holdovers/zero. Nothing runs with these. Loudest thing you hear is the animal pop...
I only let my little ones use cci quiet surpressed. It's freaky quiet. They run a bolt gun and shoot soda cans ~20 yards away.
Checks all the boxes for me:
-Hearing safe
- Accuate enough to build confidance
-Doesn't scare them
We use a bolt gun so no complants about cycling. The firing pin is louder than the shot. It's crazy.
Savage FVSR, Huntertown 22lr can
Checks all the boxes for me:
-Hearing safe
- Accuate enough to build confidance
-Doesn't scare them
We use a bolt gun so no complants about cycling. The firing pin is louder than the shot. It's crazy.
Savage FVSR, Huntertown 22lr can
No, it's not match ammo. But there's nothing wrong with it being a round nose bullet either. You pop a squirrel in the head at 50 yards and it's not going to make a difference if it's a hollow point or a round nose.
When I first got back into shooting 22LR rifles (after a 30-year long hiatus), I was using CCI SV in a Savage B22 FV-SR. I tested CCI Quiet and found it slightly more consistent out to 50 yards than the CCI SV. When you got past 60 yards, groups really started to open up quickly. For it's designed usage, CCI quiet is adequate.
If you really want to see something that has horrible groups at 25 yards, try some Aguila 22LR Colibrí or Super Colibrí. Huge groups and a trajectory like a rainbow. They are however quieter than even SV ammo with a suppressor and are great for initially teaching a kid who is extremely sound sensitive the fundamentals of shooting: start the with the Colibrí, move to Super Colibrí, next CCI Quiets, then up to SV rounds.
When I first got back into shooting 22LR rifles (after a 30-year long hiatus), I was using CCI SV in a Savage B22 FV-SR. I tested CCI Quiet and found it slightly more consistent out to 50 yards than the CCI SV. When you got past 60 yards, groups really started to open up quickly. For it's designed usage, CCI quiet is adequate.
If you really want to see something that has horrible groups at 25 yards, try some Aguila 22LR Colibrí or Super Colibrí. Huge groups and a trajectory like a rainbow. They are however quieter than even SV ammo with a suppressor and are great for initially teaching a kid who is extremely sound sensitive the fundamentals of shooting: start the with the Colibrí, move to Super Colibrí, next CCI Quiets, then up to SV rounds.
I have some. With can (Ase Utra Eco) I thought my first shot was a squib. Checked my barrel and it was clear.
Shot at steel at 20yds and heard the impact.
But they really do not perform at all at 55yds where I had around 2" group. But I have heard some give them good grades.
Shot at steel at 20yds and heard the impact.
But they really do not perform at all at 55yds where I had around 2" group. But I have heard some give them good grades.
Cci sv will cycle every thing I have ever seen.
I have had it partially crack sonic in 16 inch gun suppressed in 35-40 degree rain and fog that closed the range.
Since not many shots will be taken in those conditions I find it acceptable.
Very quiet in a sparrow can. And the price to performance is there.
I have had it partially crack sonic in 16 inch gun suppressed in 35-40 degree rain and fog that closed the range.
Since not many shots will be taken in those conditions I find it acceptable.
Very quiet in a sparrow can. And the price to performance is there.
Did it rain on your gun/ammo?
Water can cause overpressure if it gets to enter the chamber.
No rain entered barrel.
There was a big thread on this a while back. I will see if I can find it was in 22 section I think?
Under said conditions every ammo over 1070 cracked and the cci sv @1070 listed cracked partially 50% of the time.
Whole huge discussions on 200 ft alt and temp humidity ect.
The test of can and ammo carried from range to kitchen window since 50 yard targets could not be seen well and rest of range could not be deemed clear as well.
None of the listed 1050 or below ammo cracked.
16 inch barrel sparrow can.
No crono available but same brick of cci sv never cracked before or since.
Edit) there was discussion of the er shaw barrels running faster than factory.
I have not confirmed that but have a new crono, we will see.
There was a big thread on this a while back. I will see if I can find it was in 22 section I think?
Under said conditions every ammo over 1070 cracked and the cci sv @1070 listed cracked partially 50% of the time.
Whole huge discussions on 200 ft alt and temp humidity ect.
The test of can and ammo carried from range to kitchen window since 50 yard targets could not be seen well and rest of range could not be deemed clear as well.
None of the listed 1050 or below ammo cracked.
16 inch barrel sparrow can.
No crono available but same brick of cci sv never cracked before or since.
Edit) there was discussion of the er shaw barrels running faster than factory.
I have not confirmed that but have a new crono, we will see.
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Creepy. Maybe you have carbon ring that swelled up alongside moisture lubing the barrel? Only crazy and weird answers available.
Possible but I used to be a clean freek.
Have learned better now.
The conditions are not likely to be seen again. Not practical to shoot in unless starving or on a two way range.
Just a good example of strange things
That can effect results.
Have learned better now.
The conditions are not likely to be seen again. Not practical to shoot in unless starving or on a two way range.
Just a good example of strange things
That can effect results.
