Charter captain goes pirate in Florida

#51
Was out on a lake fishing with a buddy years back . Us and 3 or 4 other boats about casting distance from shore . So this moron with a boat rental comes meandering across our water . Everybody groans and a few wtf's were heard . My buddy asks what's wrong .
I explained that by passing a boat and the boats shadow over our cast zone he just spooked that stretch o water . Just told my buddy in normal conversational tone . Didn't talk shit or insult . Well Mr. Moron decides he's gonna challenge me to look tough in front of his kid . Starts in we he has every right and if I know what's good for me and he's gonna .
So I politely informed him that if he don't scoot I'm going to be at his ass in front of his kid . Mr.tough guy sat his happy ass down and puttered away .
Sometimes later we were out in deeper water running a dive plane .
Ranger was on the bank yellin and wavin . My buddy says I think their talkin to you . I laughed , said fuck em , played stupid and waved .
 
#52
Story time.

Was out water skiing on a bayou my family has lived and ski'd on since 1960, and we'd been out there for a couple hrs this day having a grand ole time. Well one of the new neighbors across the way, who I have never in my life seen fish, comes out and throws a fishing line in the water right in our path. I am the one skiing next and use two ski's to get up and then drop one and solaom. Well the drop spot was right in front of this guy and after my run, the ski was floating right in front of his dock where he was "fishing". Moms and my girlfriend at the time are in the boat and go to pick up the ski, right in the middle of that guy "fishing", they drove around in circles for about 10 mins trying to get that ski, failing each time right in the middle of where he started casting. Homie was so pissed off starts yelling, Mom acting like she had no idea what he was up set about kept cool and polite, trolled him good until he went back inside.

Mother Fucker you saw us skiing, you were just pissed because your boat which wasn't on a lift was getting rocked by the waves, so you came out and started throwing fishing lines at us.

I was across the way laughing my ass off.
 
#53
Combat vet? Surprised he’s not a cop……🙄

My Dad was a combat vet in WWII. One of the nicest kindest people, I knew. He never hit us kids but the threat of “wait till your Father get’s home” was enough to get us six kids (two set of twins) in line.

I only saw him hit one person in my life. Dexter, my brother in law raised a hand to my sister. Dad rose from the table and moved across Dexter’s kitchen so fast I barely saw what was happening. One punch and Dexter was done.

As a combat veteran, I always felt between his youthful scrapin’ days and the war he had enough of violence. He was a man of dignity and peace.
 
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Aaaaaaannndd.....
There it is!
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#56
SMH said:
How can you be 100% disabled and pass a USCG physical to have a Merchant Mariner Credential?
If he has one, he probably wont for long!

I feel bad for the kid. He should have throttle dropped him and let him swim back to his buddies.

I've seen a lot of hot headed Captains and Pilots (often due to low sleep, long hours, financial stress, a sprinkling of substance abuse and being born an asshole) but despite their arrogant misguided rage, they were never quite stupid enough to throw a punch or set foot on another's vessel.

The only way that guy should be allowed to continue fishing is if he becomes the best F'n fish bait in the ocean!
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Merchant Mariner Credential? No physical for a 6 Pack, 100ton, unlimited, Towing, Lux Sail, masters, etc.

I don't know what a Merchant Mariner Credential is, but it isn't a USCG Captain's License, and you can be in a wheelchair and get one of those no problem.

Wow. That was totally fucked up. Grown man bullying a teenager. The guys with him completely failed.
 
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Fig said:
Merchant Mariner Credential? No physical for a 6 Pack, 100ton, unlimited, Towing, Lux Sail, masters, etc.

I don't know what a Merchant Mariner Credential is, but it isn't a USCG Captain's License, and you can be in a wheelchair and get one of those no problem.

Wow. That was totally fucked up. Grown man bullying a teenager. The guys with him completely failed.
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A MMC is a USCG license. If you sail on big ships a MMC is a license for specific qualifications and position
 
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Fig said:
Merchant Mariner Credential? No physical for a 6 Pack, 100ton, unlimited, Towing, Lux Sail, masters, etc.

I don't know what a Merchant Mariner Credential is, but it isn't a USCG Captain's License, and you can be in a wheelchair and get one of those no problem.

Wow. That was totally fucked up. Grown man bullying a teenager. The guys with him completely failed.
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The "USCG License" is probably referring to a Master of some kind which is a MMC, there are also all kinds of other endorsements. Yes, there is a medical you need pass to be valid, no you cannot be in a wheelchair and hold a valid Master endorsement. I sailed under my license today for work.
 
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jbuck88 said:
The "USCG License" is probably referring to a Master of some kind which is a MMC, there are also all kinds of other endorsements. Yes, there is a medical you need pass to be valid, no you cannot be in a wheelchair and hold a valid Master endorsement. I sailed under my license today for work.
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You can get a special waiver to be in a wheelchair chair and be a Captain. There is one in Depoe Bay Oregon on the Surfrider

Dock Side Charters

Charter Fishing with Tyler Turner
www.docksidedepoebay.com
 
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jbuck88 said:
The "USCG License" is probably referring to a Master of some kind which is a MMC, there are also all kinds of other endorsements. Yes, there is a medical you need pass to be valid, no you cannot be in a wheelchair and hold a valid Master endorsement. I sailed under my license today for work.
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US Coast Guard - Merchant Marine Credential - https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Portals/9/NMC/pdfs/faq/credential_faq.pdf

Apparently, it permits you to work on the vessels in addition to other USCG Credentials like "Master," "Pilot," "Chief Engineer," "Mates, etc.").
 
#64
Sniperwannabee said:
You can get a special waiver to be in a wheelchair chair and be a Captain. There is one in Depoe Bay Oregon on the Surfrider

Dock Side Charters

Charter Fishing with Tyler Turner
www.docksidedepoebay.com
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Pulling alongside and jumping onto another vessel like some buccaneer should qualify you as being a Captain. It helps to say 'Arrrgh, Matey.'

We had that same type swashbuckling drama on the high seas here awhile back:

"...He said Spillar tried to crash into him again, but this time Spillar jumped onto his boat “like a pirate,” yelling and brandishing a steel pipe with both hands. According to the victim, he was able to grab the pipe and push Spillar overboard."

 
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Im2bent said:
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What's the "bridge' look like on his boat? If it's completely enclosed then that might work as he need only roll around inside the bridge and get access to the controls, radar, etc. But if the bridge has outdoor external control stations like the following, it might be harder to be wheel chair bound and be the master. They are responsible for the ship handling and docking. They have to use those stations when docking and they have to get to them quickly when needed. In the case below, those external stations are right on the outside edge of the bridge where the master can see where the boat is in relation to the dock.

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Now, in the case of the following boat, the entire bridge is inside and could be accessed via wheelchair.

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Fx51LP308 said:
What's the "bridge' look like on his boat? If it's completely enclosed then that might work as he need only roll around inside the bridge and get access to the controls, radar, etc. But if the bridge has outdoor external control stations like the following, it might be harder to be wheel chair bound and be the master. They are responsible for the ship handling and docking. They have to use those stations when docking and they have to get to them quickly when needed. In the case below, those external stations are right on the outside edge of the bridge where the master can see where the boat is in relation to the dock.

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Now, in the case of the following boat, the entire bridge is inside and could be accessed via wheelchair.

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You do know who this is right?
 
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Im2bent said:
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None other than "Lt. Daaaaaaaaann" himself! But that still doesn't answer how he'd access the outer control stations, being wheelchair bound.... And the bridge of a fishing vessel is usually enclosed all inside. I don't recall any of the "Deadliest Catch" vessels having external bridge controls.
 
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Fig said:
Merchant Mariner Credential? No physical for a 6 Pack, 100ton, unlimited, Towing, Lux Sail, masters, etc.

I don't know what a Merchant Mariner Credential is, but it isn't a USCG Captain's License, and you can be in a wheelchair and get one of those no problem.

Wow. That was totally fucked up. Grown man bullying a teenager. The guys with him completely failed.
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There is technically no such thing as a "Captain's License".
That is a generic term typically used for a USCG Merchant Mariner Credential which is required to be a Captain.
Thus, a USCG Licensed Captain is someone with a MMC.
Mine would be the lower level "Operator of Uninspected Passenger Vessel" or often known as a "6 pack license" as I can only take 6 paying clients at a time plus 1 crewmember.
It requires documented sea time, USCG physical/medical, drug test, background check, TWIC card, passing a USCG approved exam, filling out a mountain of notarized paperwork and submitting it to a USCG station and waiting for the forms and documents to finally make the rounds.
That being said, many "Captains" can't pass the tests or afford adequate insurance and run without both until Karma kicks their ass.
 
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TexPatriot said:
Pulling alongside and jumping onto another vessel like some buccaneer should qualify you as being a Captain. It helps to say 'Arrrgh, Matey.'

We had that same type swashbuckling drama on the high seas here awhile back:

"...He said Spillar tried to crash into him again, but this time Spillar jumped onto his boat “like a pirate,” yelling and brandishing a steel pipe with both hands. According to the victim, he was able to grab the pipe and push Spillar overboard."

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Dang it I was hoping the wake boat owner was going to pull out a gun and blast the pirate
 
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SMH said:
There is technically no such thing as a "Captain's License".
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Correct. It's called a "Master's credential" and applied to a generic USCG license ticket/blank. The "Master" is in charge of "ship handling" and the overall operation of the vessel. The Master credential is restricted to certain vessels of certain gross tonnages upon certain waters (bays, sounds, rivers, etc... The "Any Ocean" endorsement requires a bit more experience and certification. "Captain" is the service rank usually given to Masters by the shipping company (usually they're the supervising Master). Other officers can be masters as well, but there is usually only one Captain. Usually, all "pilots" are masters but it's not always the other way around. Oddly enough, the "Chief Engineer" of a vessel (ie. the "Scotty") has the same service rank (Captain) as the Master. I guess Shatner wasn't going to stand for that.... :ROFLMAO: Any officer can accumulate all these endorsements and credentials on their CG ticket. They just keep listing them.

Pilotage is a completely different animal, though. No matter what operational credentials/endorsements you have, you must earn pilotage via a different, separate ladder. And for this, you must have operated on the very specific waters for a certain length of time, as well as passing all the navigational skills and know all the navigational aids on those waters, the obstructions, the tides, the general soundings of depth everywhere.. the bottom terrain.. and all of that. God forbid you ever cause a ship to "go aground." The pilot's job is to know, precisely, the vessel's position at all times and to do things like helm the boat for the Master during the approach and docking/undocking. When you see a "1st class Pilot" on a CG ticket, the water restrictions are even way more specific than for a Master.
 
#73
So what are the rules about fishing near a main channel?

I believe if you are anchored, tied to a bridge or any navigation device it is illegal. Which they were right next to the main channel apparently one guy with no light.

By no means excusing the behavior, curious if anyone knows.
 
#74
There are so many nuances to the rules. In general if your involved in a collision you are going to be found partially at fault. Doesn't matter in yiu are anchored or not. If you are at sea you are required to maintain a look out and avoid a collision.

Now it gets complicated depending on where they were, no wake zones, speed, conditions, lights, etc. The Coast Guard will decide what % of fault each person has contributed to the collision. It is NEVER 100% one person though.

In the eyes of the USCG fishing with a rod and reel is the same as underway. No special circumstances exist. So i would guess first would be to establish who is the stand on vessel and who is the give way vessel.
 
#81
Some people look normal on the outside, but their self confidence is poor because of parental abuse, parental bullying, or even sexual abuse. By 40 years old he should have gotten over much of that, but some people are slow learners.

Imagine a boy being repeatedly raped by his father, uncle, someone of trust. He would never, ever be completely normal. This guy was a jerk, but it appears to me that he was trying to prove something to everyone because of his lack of self confidence.
 
#83
c1steve said:
Some people look normal on the outside, but their self confidence is poor because of parental abuse, parental bullying, or even sexual abuse. By 40 years old he should have gotten over much of that, but some people are slow learners.

Imagine a boy being repeatedly raped by his father, uncle, someone of trust. He would never, ever be completely normal. This guy was a jerk, but it appears to me that he was trying to prove something to everyone because of his lack of self confidence.
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Hence...his fake ranger hero claims.
I Don't think his lawyer's statement is goingvto age well. Doesn't matter if it is lies, he had to get something out there for people to chew on.
you win over a bunch with the veteran sympathy play. Then you end up divoding the villagers long enough to come up with a real plan for damage control.
 
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Fx51LP308 said:
What's the "bridge' look like on his boat? If it's completely enclosed then that might work as he need only roll around inside the bridge and get access to the controls, radar, etc. But if the bridge has outdoor external control stations like the following, it might be harder to be wheel chair bound and be the master. They are responsible for the ship handling and docking. They have to use those stations when docking and they have to get to them quickly when needed. In the case below, those external stations are right on the outside edge of the bridge where the master can see where the boat is in relation to the dock.

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Now, in the case of the following boat, the entire bridge is inside and could be accessed via wheelchair.

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As far as the "captain" in a wheelchair goes... ANYBODY can drive the boat, as long as long as SOMEBODY on board has the correct license.
 
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armorpl8chikn said:
Hence...his fake ranger hero claims.
I Don't think his lawyer's statement is goingvto age well. Doesn't matter if it is lies, he had to get something out there for people to chew on.
you win over a bunch with the veteran sympathy play. Then you end up divoding the villagers long enough to come up with a real plan for damage control.
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With a name like Brock Horner, he had to get it on. That sounds like one of Clutch Cargo's pals.

Stole Valor looked into this clown. There is no Ranger tab on his record.

Maybe he was talking about his rap sheet.
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