Night Vision Cheap rail mount low pro IR laser?
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My "go to" is steiner OTAL-c .. tiny and light ... and compatible standard plugs ...
We also have an N-Vissys Vitale (PAQ-4C work-alike-competitor) for same price as the steiners.
We also have an N-Vissys Vitale (PAQ-4C work-alike-competitor) for same price as the steiners.
If you’re not worried about the ability to use a plugged pressure pad, the Steiner Tor-Mini IR from TNVC is pretty slick and only ~$270.
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I don’t remember seeing that and I haven’t had any issues with mine, but admittedly I don’t use mine nearly as often as I’m sure a lot of guys here do.
I don’t remember seeing that and I haven’t had any issues with mine, but admittedly I don’t use mine nearly as often as I’m sure a lot of guys here do.
I think I read that some of the early tor were accidentally shipped with visible lasers. Its also listed as "water resistant". Despite that and the scope debacle i was shouted down on the ar15 forum for doubting steiner so ymmv.
I was so dissatisfied with the mid priced laser options I got some tlr eye safes as place holders hoping something better would come out. There's also perst or L3 stuff. That feeling when your trying to chose between eotech, steiner, and Russian quality control.....
I was so dissatisfied with the mid priced laser options I got some tlr eye safes as place holders hoping something better would come out. There's also perst or L3 stuff. That feeling when your trying to chose between eotech, steiner, and Russian quality control.....
If everything is junk il just go back to peq2s. Would rather have some small and durable that is just a IR aiming laser
wig - any details on the Vitale? I tried searching but got no results.
Everything I know about the vitale is posted in the commercial thread which is linked to in this post.
It seems like it was created to compete with the PAQ-4c and it is similar in size, weight and function (I had a PAQ-4c for a few years).
It seems like it was created to compete with the PAQ-4c and it is similar in size, weight and function (I had a PAQ-4c for a few years).
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I have had really good luck with the Crimson Trace Rail Master IR and Lasermax Uni IR for cheap, low-profile IR lasers. That said, I never beat on them or used them on anything harsher than a 6.5 Creedmoor gas gun.
TOR mini - I had a problem with the screws that hold it to the rail snap with not much torque. They fixed, no issue, but I would not trust one to get knocked on a carbine and not snap. Depends on how you treat it, but not in the same class of rugged as other options IMO.
I live where it rains 6 months out of the year so I have to make sure and read the fine print. Seems to be a lot of water "resistant" stuff out there.
I'm new to all this....recently dipped toes in a bit...
Luna Elir3.....comes class I....in 5 seconds you remove filter and = class III full power.
I'm REALLY impressed for $350
What really makes it awesome is being able to adjust beam width and intensity
Luna Elir3.....comes class I....in 5 seconds you remove filter and = class III full power.
I'm REALLY impressed for $350
What really makes it awesome is being able to adjust beam width and intensity
The Luna is a good laser illuminator, but not usable as an aiming laser. AND very dangerous if there is any chance people could be down range. Permanent eye damage danger!
You know what else is dangerous if people are down range? Bullets. Be smart about where you point your shit.
The Luna comes off with two finger screws so can be used as a hand held. Since this is a place where novices come to learn it is worth mentioning it can pop eyeballs with the filter removed.
And you know what else is dangerous? Stupidity!
Agreed with all the above.
I have been very careful being a noob and being over the top mindful about capping it since I have filter removed.
You can always add filter back on Luna if desired.
Aiming laser.....not for long range accuracy.
Use it for 50-100 yards would prolly work.
I know you're squared away deersniper and know your shit.
As much as your in the field hunting I know that you would find a use for Luna Elir3 no matter what.
I'm gonna try to use it with my Leupold Mk4 spotter and see how it works.
I have been very careful being a noob and being over the top mindful about capping it since I have filter removed.
You can always add filter back on Luna if desired.
Aiming laser.....not for long range accuracy.
Use it for 50-100 yards would prolly work.
I know you're squared away deersniper and know your shit.
As much as your in the field hunting I know that you would find a use for Luna Elir3 no matter what.
I'm gonna try to use it with my Leupold Mk4 spotter and see how it works.
How do you do that? Hold a pvs-14 up to the spotting scope? Or do you have a clip-on on it or something?
How is the image? I use a 3x with my PVS-14 but that is a big objective and only 3x.
No idea I just know a lot of people do the above.
People also do that with scopes. Some with great luck. There was a guy here years back shooting rabbits at 300 with a 14 behind the scope.
Glass quality and objective is important
People also do that with scopes. Some with great luck. There was a guy here years back shooting rabbits at 300 with a 14 behind the scope.
Glass quality and objective is important
Military ran them for a while. Good systems, with the exception of a weak illuminator (it will work in a room). The lasers are more then efficient for anything you will use them for.
I'll be doing a similar setup with a Sionyx behind my Leupold......once I have tested that I'm gonna post a review of the sionyx behind the MK4 and BEHIND a zeroed day optic.
What I can say is that so far the sionyx BEHIND a zeroed day optic has no POI shift and results with Luna Elir 3 have been amazing considering the price point.
You will see a lot of people shitting on the sionyx on YouTube when using with optics hut there's not one vid of someone mounting it behind the optic......I went out on a limb and tried it. I couldn't be happier for the money.
Luna Elir3 is a solid piece of kit that will move on to more top tier rifle systems in the future. The sionyx is a workable solution but not as rugged as other options. Once again though....for the price.... results are amazing
What I can say is that so far the sionyx BEHIND a zeroed day optic has no POI shift and results with Luna Elir 3 have been amazing considering the price point.
You will see a lot of people shitting on the sionyx on YouTube when using with optics hut there's not one vid of someone mounting it behind the optic......I went out on a limb and tried it. I couldn't be happier for the money.
Luna Elir3 is a solid piece of kit that will move on to more top tier rifle systems in the future. The sionyx is a workable solution but not as rugged as other options. Once again though....for the price.... results are amazing
I don't mean to derail but.....this is over 100 yards (I didn't have LRF) ignore impacts being a tad low......this is with Sionyx (poi was same with it off) 77 grain IMI 18 inch woa barrel
