Checz vz 24 receiver re barrel
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Complete actions in good condition are hard to find anymore, and you'll pay as much for a complete rifle in decent condition as you would for a 700 action to build from.
Not many Mausers being sporterized anymore- aftermarket support (sporter stocks, bolt handles, etc) have dwindled to about nil...
fun project to DIY if you have the skills, but a lot of work (bolt/safety mods...) to pay a Smith for it.
Best bet is to scour your local lawn shops for one that's already been sporterized- so all you need do is rebarrel and perhaps find a suitable stock.
Not many Mausers being sporterized anymore- aftermarket support (sporter stocks, bolt handles, etc) have dwindled to about nil...
fun project to DIY if you have the skills, but a lot of work (bolt/safety mods...) to pay a Smith for it.
Best bet is to scour your local lawn shops for one that's already been sporterized- so all you need do is rebarrel and perhaps find a suitable stock.
Unfortunately that is correct. I have a couple left over from years ago. Even trying to get them back to near original isn't cheap anymore.
I last bought a barreled receiver at the LGS, 1909 Argentine original barrel to receiver. It was $100. Took the barrel off and found it had lug setback. Well, that's disappointing. I'm trying to find a way to fix it without costing a ridiculous amount.
I last bought a barreled receiver at the LGS, 1909 Argentine original barrel to receiver. It was $100. Took the barrel off and found it had lug setback. Well, that's disappointing. I'm trying to find a way to fix it without costing a ridiculous amount.
I've done only a couple of them, far from an expert... Kuhnhausen's book is pretty much the "bible" for those working on Mausers.
Lug setback (more than a couple thousandths) is usually considered a no-go. Mauser receivers were case-hardened, and with little QC the depth of the hardening varies greatly among receivers. Setback on the lugs/receivers could be completely through the hardening, or far enough to severely compromise the strength of the receiver. If that's the case and the receiver is rebarreled, continued setback and increase in headspace could be very rapid (and dangerous).
I believe some receivers like this can be machined, and then professionally re-heat treated, but then you're getting into "costing a ridiculous amount".
Lug setback (more than a couple thousandths) is usually considered a no-go. Mauser receivers were case-hardened, and with little QC the depth of the hardening varies greatly among receivers. Setback on the lugs/receivers could be completely through the hardening, or far enough to severely compromise the strength of the receiver. If that's the case and the receiver is rebarreled, continued setback and increase in headspace could be very rapid (and dangerous).
I believe some receivers like this can be machined, and then professionally re-heat treated, but then you're getting into "costing a ridiculous amount".
Yeah, I have his book as well so I'm familiar with the subject. I just haven't found a way to do it myself yet. It would be an awful lot of lapping with a bolt. I've been in contact with Blanchard too.
I just don't like being out $100 on a receiver I can't use. Though that is the risk with such things.
I just don't like being out $100 on a receiver I can't use. Though that is the risk with such things.
I've got a few of them and love them. Mausers used to go for next to nothing, so about half of the hundred million got "customized" in one form or another. My two favorite VZ-24's are in 6-.284 and 7x57. But, I've had them in .243, 6mm Rem, .257 Rob., .260 Rem, 7mm-08, .308, 30-06, 7.65 argentino, .303-06 (Argy punched out to 30-06), 8x57, 8mm-06 .338x57, .338-06, .35 Whelan, 9.3x57 and 9.3x62.
The VZ-24 had very good metalurgy and if not seriously pitted will hold any case that will produce up to 55k psi without issue. The quality control in interwar Czechoslovakia was outstanding. They were very anal about that. As much as the Germans were.
The VZ-24 had very good metalurgy and if not seriously pitted will hold any case that will produce up to 55k psi without issue. The quality control in interwar Czechoslovakia was outstanding. They were very anal about that. As much as the Germans were.
It depends on the maker, but most are very good. DWM, Steyr, Danzig. My favorite is the 1909 Argentino. 1912 Chilean is also a good one.
I will say that if you find one in original conditon, don't butcher it. Even if it isn't pretty. Original will never really be gotten back to. Find one that has already been modified.
That's a kind of an odd one. Pre 1905 they all had .318 barrels (if 8mm Mauser, as we know it) After 1905, they changed the diameter to .323". Anyhow, after that time point, .318" still remained somewhat popular for civilian rifles. Of which CZ/BRNO built a number of. Not the most popular diameter, as a lot of their output was for smaller military contracts, but they did build commercial rifles intended for Europe where that was most common.
It all can still be done. Parts are more expensive than the 700s but not crazy. If you want to mount a scope theres quite a bit of gunsmithing going on. $100 for a cz action I think is a really good price. Last cz I bought was $200 and I thought that was a decent deal.
Brownells has short chambered barrels for $100, run of the mill stock for $130, timney for $100. It doesnt get too expensive until you want to mount a scope. Then theres drilling and tapping for bases and modifying the bolt handle and safety.
Last one I did was a cz in 22 250. Gunsmith who had been doing it for years chambered the barrel and had a bunch of extra mauser parts on the shelf. I picked up everything I could from him at a decent discount.
Last one I did was a cz in 22 250. Gunsmith who had been doing it for years chambered the barrel and had a bunch of extra mauser parts on the shelf. I picked up everything I could from him at a decent discount.
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