Chicago Suburb Confiscating Semi-Autos

Read that when it first came out long ago, agree with some of it but not all of it. Think he missed the part where there are many inside that will feed info to us outside, as well as the como guys running their own games when the time is right. Como guys, last in a stack, or over watch hold, many, many cards. Plus you have guys who can place false flag calls, with the best dispatchers be they 911 or tac. Plus those guys have the ability to kill all local como real quick, to include Sat phones. To be effective you have to have the ability to Shoot, Move & Communicate. Most folks thrive on the Shooting or Moving aspect an know squat, about the last one at all.

Information rules battlefields/fights, not mussel or lead.

Your a ham guy right? Don’t they shut down repeaters in an EM situation? Wouldn’t you have to use a pretty high wattage unit to bi-pass? Capable of about 75watts but my hand unit would be toast? I’m a guy that would know jack shit about it FYI.....
 
Oh, I know. I know a lot of cops personally and online, and I agree, none of them would enforce such a stupid and dangerous law. I'm certainly not a cop basher. I have the utmost respect for them and the job they do. I was just trying to get people to think about it a little. We'll see what happens in Chicongo.

Sadly, history tells a different story of those tasked to do such things. Most of them want a paycheck and to go home to their families. Few will risk losing it all to protect your rights, keep in mind they will be exempt either way. I know a lot of cops as well and about a handful of them I actually believe when they tell me they would never do such a thing. The others I have no doubts they would. As I said, they want their paychecks and to go home with their families and play in their tactical gear. As for the exemption, you’d be surprised how many of them have told me they don’t care what the gov does with the 2A because they are exempt.
 
the first shots have already been taken by the deep state, the patriots will be justified in any response.

the enforcers for the dems and repubs are already whining about 60 or so killed so far this year, wait til that gets to 50 a day. (I know none of these were politically motivated but just using this to illustrate the Solzhenitsyn parable above. )

http://www.newsweek.com/police-line-duty-deaths-increase-2017-636064




Yes deep state so much so wants some Patriot to fire first.

I think the reason its not known who fired first April 19, 1775 is because it wasnt the British.

The Deep State has to be the first to overstep.

Problem is they are agitating their own unstable people as much as they are ours.

Sadly when their guys jump the count we dont hear about it we get crickets - Vegas, Austin, the chick from yesterday - while anyone no matter how tenuously connected to "the right" will be in the news for weeks.
 
Your a ham guy right? Don’t they shut down repeaters in an EM situation? Wouldn’t you have to use a pretty high wattage unit to bi-pass? Capable of about 75watts but my hand unit would be toast? I’m a guy that would know jack shit about it FYI.....
No, but they will/have shut down cells. Repeaters are used for emerg traffic also depending who owns them, an they are in fixed locations on top of that, easy to disable if need be. In the kind of game that is coming simplex nets will be the order of the day. As far as over riding a repeater that can be done fairly easly, but why over ride or, take out something you can use to your advantage? VHF an UHF (Line of site shit) have their place but HF will rule the game.
 
Like the loyalists of the 1770-80's they will be shown its more painful to enslave fellow countrymen than it is t serve a distant hated master. I swear on all my love of the Constitution and my freedom of man,,,,, well I am not going to say it on a forum but you guys can imagine how bad it will be. I will summon all the Demonic ways of my Irish forefathers who have deep hatred, no matter how good things are towards the British (DC), the masterful ability to smile right at their faces while plotting horrible deaths to the person and the family that they are smiling at. I promise you the period of our founding war was much more brutal than you were taught and today it will be even more brutal. If you serve a wanna be despot you best beware of what your freedom loving fellow countrymen are thinking of you.

Hopefully we can live in harmony and I don't have to channel that deep seated ability at hatred that is in my Irish DNA.


Sadly, history tells a different story of those tasked to do such things. Most of them want a paycheck and to go home to their families. Few will risk losing it all to protect your rights, keep in mind they will be exempt either way. I know a lot of cops as well and about a handful of them I actually believe when they tell me they would never do such a thing. The others I have no doubts they would. As I said, they want their paychecks and to go home with their families and play in their tactical gear. As for the exemption, you’d be surprised how many of them have told me they don’t care what the gov does with the 2A because they are exempt.
 
No, but they will/have shut down cells. Repeaters are used for emerg traffic also depending who owns them, an they are in fixed locations on top of that, easy to disable if need be. In the kind of game that is coming simplex nets will be the order of the day. As far as over riding a repeater that can be done fairly easly, but why over ride or, take out something you can use to your advantage? VHF an UHF (Line of site shit) have their place but HF will rule the game.

I need to learn more about this stuff! Unfortunately, we only have so much time and there just simply isn’t enough time to train/learn everything expect level. This is why it’s important to have a team of people devoted to learning certain tasks. The bad thing is if most of your people think you are nutso or don’t have the same devotion you do. All of this is almost impossible without a good group and we seen how well the group in Oregon did. Geez, I digress...
 
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get a small ham and put it in a 20mm ammo can, its EMP proof.
Ammo cans that are not foil taped shut, will not work. The pulse wave forum will simply pass threw the rubber seal an destroy any electronic Item inside. Even if the can is sealed properly, if the items are not electrically insulated from the inside of the can, they will still be toast. Much miss information on the net about Faraday cages. Course if the pulse's are done properly (timing) old style tube shit will be the new gold std, same as points, condencers, an coils. Diesels can be turned to Manuel an made to run unless they have a puter.
 
Ammo cans that are not foil taped shut, will not work. The pulse wave forum will simply pass threw the rubber seal an destroy any electronic Item inside. Even if the can is sealed properly, if the items are not electrically insulated from the inside of the can, they will still be toast. Much miss information on the net about Faraday cages. Course if the pulse's are done properly (timing) old style tube shit will be the new gold std, same as points, condencers, an coils. Diesels can be turned to Manuel an made to run unless they have a puter.

And sadly, most vehicles these days have a puter! That’s one reason I won’t sell my old truck. It’s the only vehicle I have not that cannot be tracked and doesn’t have a computer on board.
 
And sadly, most vehicles these days have a puter! That’s one reason I won’t sell my old truck. It’s the only vehicle I have not that cannot be tracked and doesn’t have a computer on board.
Same here, built an old 72 F-350 from the ground up, but using a small block Chevy engine(call it Ford-a-Lay) keep spare starter, alternator, distributor, relays an tools in a cage on board just in case. Also keep a Coleman CT200U modified mini bike w/trailer, an spares just in case.
 
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@DB,
And this would be because:
A. They don't have any forbidden items.
B. They are all lawful upstanding citizens.
C. They are eunuch sheep.
D. They already turned them in.

Just curious... ?
 
@DB,
And this would be because:
A. They don't have any forbidden items.
B. They are all lawful upstanding citizens.
C. They are eunuch sheep.
D. They already turned them in.

Just curious... ?


I'm hoping it's like what happened in Boston when they tried this. Very few complied.
 
If someone wants to send a message they should go for the politicians, not their pawns. Show the ruling class that they aren't out of reach and maybe, just maybe, they won't be so brazen in the future.
 
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Time is on their side. And Americans forget quickly. Now general acceptance of the laws in Cali is the norm. How many members on here alone always say (Well thats Cali for you). (We should build a wall around Cali).
What makes this little town any different than the entire state of California??!! Oh wait, what about New York? Shall I continue?

You guys that think there will be a mass formation of storm troopers marching down your street confiscating weapons are completely wrong. Its the little things they pass that add up. Bumpfire stocks, pistol grips, barrels shorter than 16", etc etc etc...

Maybe we should wait for the NRA to fight our fight for us? Lets send them more money for compromise so they only take adjustable stocks this time...

Those accessories they banned before were stupid anyways right? Right? You guys get it? :cautious:
 
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I'm hoping it's like what happened in Boston when they tried this. Very few complied.

See here is the problem with this kind of thinking!!! If you’ve got to this point then they already won. What good is a weapon you keep but hide away in a closet? It’s no good if you can’t use it and train with it. Let’s say you keep it and think you beat the system. What do you think happens the first time you take it to the range? Own your own land, great, say you get pulled over with it on the way home. Cop searches your car and bam, now your a felon and guess who’s house they are going to search for more now? You see where I am going with this. By this point you have already lost. If you have to hide them then they are little use. And all this crap about hiding them in the ground and digging them up and crap is fantasyland...
 
See here is the problem with this kind of thinking!!! If you’ve got to this point then they already won. What good is a weapon you keep but hide away in a closet? It’s no good if you can’t use it and train with it. Let’s say you keep it and think you beat the system. What do you think happens the first time you take it to the range? Own your own land, great, say you get pulled over with it on the way home. Cop searches your car and bam, now your a felon and guess who’s house they are going to search for more now? You see where I am going with this. By this point you have already lost. If you have to hide them then they are little use. And all this crap about hiding them in the ground and digging them up and crap is fantasyland...
Yup that's why we should all be introducing and encouraging new shooters. It's why the left is trying to make guns evil from kindergarten on
Too many dipshits here and in real life want to run the new people out and belittle them. We were all beginners with stupid questions at one time n
 
See here is the problem with this kind of thinking!!! If you’ve got to this point then they already won. What good is a weapon you keep but hide away in a closet? It’s no good if you can’t use it and train with it. Let’s say you keep it and think you beat the system. What do you think happens the first time you take it to the range? Own your own land, great, say you get pulled over with it on the way home. Cop searches your car and bam, now your a felon and guess who’s house they are going to search for more now? You see where I am going with this. By this point you have already lost. If you have to hide them then they are little use. And all this crap about hiding them in the ground and digging them up and crap is fantasyland...
They said that in 1773 as well, but in the end that kind of "we are already done thinking" was proved to be wrong. This is not a fight about guns, it's a fight about/for this nation, nothing more, nothing less. The battle is coming an there is not one damn thing anyone can do to stop it.
 
Eunuch sheep.. ..

And the oxygen thieves steal more.

Alex S shouted into the wind and it blew his words away and no one heard or heeded. To the camps with all Deerfield.... to the camps. All those meddlesome priests....

(All in jest, you mongers, all in jest......)
 
Facts
1) Liberals cant aim.
2) Using Semi Autos they at least have a outside chance of hitting something with 30 rounds.
So Liberal Logic decides
1) Ban Semi Autos and Hi Cap mags.
2) This Forces Liberals to use Pump shotguns
3) So finally they have a chance of hitting more targets
4) The increased death rates allow The Left to call for the ban of evil pump shotguns.
5) Win Win in their minds.

Where does it end? The total ban of all weapons up to and including Assault Sling Shots.
 
I believe that this is a calculated attempt by higher up liberals to test the waters for an MSR ban. They want to see how this stands up in the Supreme Court.

The Supreme Court has already ruled that municipal bans do not hold water. However, if IL as a state does this, they may have a better chance.

The mayor is being used as a pawn in a game, and she is clueless that it's even being played.
 
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I'm pissed as hell about this. We are watching our rights being eroded slowly.
How can this be upheld in the courts??

Th big worry I hear from the gun community is door to door confiscation. For the majority of gun owners they are not going to do this. they will ban them and make them useless. If you shoot a home invader with a msr, or have one in the home during, you get fined, jailed. Go to the range or a comp with one, jail and fined. someone steals one from your house do you report it?

None of this bullshit will stop people intent on committing crimes with one though.

My prediction is that the localities where this occurs will grow slowly over time just leaving certain areas without a ban.

Where's the nra at??
 
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@DB,
And this would be because:
A. They don't have any forbidden items.
B. They are all lawful upstanding citizens.
C. They are eunuch sheep.
D. They already turned them in.

Just curious... ?


Combination of all of the above. When it comes down to it, it's really hard to shoot someone. Especially when you have enough to eat and no one has thrown grandma into a gulag yet. Things are not bad enough.
 
Chief Joseph fucked that up too.....
Yes he did, but then again he was not a Comanche. I'd color him just a shade better than moonbeam, all things considered. One can only live in peace in today's world, for as long as they are willing to live on their knees. We both know the other option will be made viable shortly.
 
I think we're seeing this now because the Left has finally figured out that they can't hold out until the mid-terms; and that when the mid-terms arrive, it's all going to go the wrong way for them.

This is the signal move of their desperation.

Greg

Greg,

Why do you think the mid-terms will go the wrong way for the Dems?

My biggest concern is that Trump has failed to get certain things done to the extent that he promised. He also has nothing but a constant harassment from both Dems and RINOs. Not to mention all of the continuing investigations with Mueller. MSM uses every way possible to paint him as a racist, etc. They are winning the heats and minds of many. Now my concern or perspective may be a consequence of living in New England versus the sentiment in other regions of our country. However, I truly have realized that the left is both well funded and organized to a much better degree than we are. The move to use kids as a podium for change was a pretty smart idea. Kids that believe otherwise have gotten no traction in the media. I think the left is doing quite well moving their agenda forward relative to the right. Again, maybe that is a perspective based on my geography but don't know.

I worry that the mid-terms will go against him and the Dems have a likely chance of regaining ground in Congress, if not, capture control of Congress. If that happens, we really don't have much chance of getting our point of view into law.
 
History repeats....
Yes but, I see others of Crazy Horse an Chief Gall ink laying in wait. Unlike days gone by, (where men were men), I can foresee another Wy event with the same short term outcome but a different long term outcome, when the event/s comes to those who started it. Chief Joseph believe the fathers, were of their word, we know better.
 
Greg,

Why do you think the mid-terms will go the wrong way for the Dems?

My biggest concern is that Trump has failed to get certain things done to the extent that he promised. He also has nothing but a constant harassment from both Dems and RINOs. Not to mention all of the continuing investigations with Mueller. MSM uses every way possible to paint him as a racist, etc. They are winning the heats and minds of many. Now my concern or perspective may be a consequence of living in New England versus the sentiment in other regions of our country. However, I truly have realized that the left is both well funded and organized to a much better degree than we are. The move to use kids as a podium for change was a pretty smart idea. Kids that believe otherwise have gotten no traction in the media. I think the left is doing quite well moving their agenda forward relative to the right. Again, maybe that is a perspective based on my geography but don't know.

I worry that the mid-terms will go against him and the Dems have a likely chance of regaining ground in Congress, if not, capture control of Congress. If that happens, we really don't have much chance of getting our point of view into law.
Repubs didn't do well in WI this week. If the country follows suit then we'll see a lot on left added to congress
 
The Republicans seem to be the most useful when they don't have control of everything, when they do, they are worse than useless.
So them loosing a bit of ground might actually force them to remember who got them elected & at least pay them lip service again.
 
The Republicans seem to be the most useful when they don't have control of everything, when they do, they are worse than useless.
So them loosing a bit of ground might actually force them to remember who got them elected & at least pay them lip service again.

The repubs are playing exactly the game they want to play......move the big agenda state forward.

They did nothing to resist the last administration. They have done all they can to hinder this administration.

Voting Republican or Democrat doesnt matter......same,same.
 
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Somebody's gonna show up at a "voluntary" collection site and go all Persian Vegan on their asses.


Big no shitter buddy. Seriously, 'who' can't see that one coming. We obviously know there's a right way and a wrong way to push back. Unfortunately for someone down the line, not 'everybody' is aware of their options.