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Maybe this is closer than we thought and this is China protecting before the launch.Meanwhile, Xi, who arrived back in China’s capital on Sept. 16 after meeting with Russia’s Vladimir Putin at a regional summit in Central Asia, didn’t appear at the Beijing meeting but relayed instructions that the armed forces should focus on preparing for war.
I may not be able to tell anything because we eat there sort of regularly. I still love it thoughI know going into the place it's going to be shit, but after talking about it I went there today for the first time in years. I swear it used to be a lot better, shit sucked way more than I anticipated.
Just had a phone convo with my aunt's side of the family last night (noon over there). Whatever it is going on right now, it is pretty much hushed up tight in the upper levels. CCTV 24 hour broadcast is still running the same programs, BUT, Xi Jinping has not appeared or given a speech in the last 48 hours. Usually he always issues a statement every day or so. Two days ago, Shanghai and other large cities mandated that no privately owned vehicles are to be parked within a certain distance of government buildings and they issued a time limit for people to go move their cars and trucks away. That is probably because of the explosions. At least one had been caught on security cam and the people responsible for that one is still at large. A health checkpoint with three officers and a civilian employee was obliterated. There have been at least 2 other attacks across southern China, where those checkpoints are the most prevalent, with fatalities. Other than that, the lid on regular news sources are extremely tight. October 1, Independence Day, is coming up and officials are fearing a HUGE attack somewhere. You can't even fly postal drones in Beijing, the whole airspace is locked down.
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My question exactly. I don’t think the CCP is really good for anyone ever…So is this bad or good for the people of China? Or is this the possible beginning of something that can be better (or worse) for the people? Its not like the CCP is an elected bunch correct?
It's probably great for the folks high up in the big boys clubMy question exactly. I don’t think the CCP is really good for anyone ever…
That's not what I took away from it, all the twitter posts and pics were sarcasm. Something going on but all the panic posts of fleeing and full fledged coup are exaggeration.So per this dude, there is a coup, but some of Xi's loyals are holding still holding some places.
Name a regime in power that is? A benevolent gov’t is a myth/fantasy. It’s a control mechanism that people are raised from birth to submit to.My question exactly. I don’t think the CCP is really good for anyone ever…
Relatively speaking, certain forms of government allow for more liberty than others.Name a regime in power that is? A benevolent gov’t is a myth/fantasy. It’s a control mechanism that people are raised from birth to submit to.
Disagree with your Hobbesian view entirely.Relatively speaking, certain forms of government allow for more liberty than others.
However, people are naturally evil and therefore a governing body will naturally do what is best for them and worse for those governed. Our government is predicated upon the people (and by definition, our rulers) being a moral people. We have rejected moral absolutes (let alone Biblical principals) and here we are
My view does not come from Hobbes but that is beside the point here (although I suspect it is ultimately why we disagree).Disagree with your Hobbesian view entirely.
I’ll have to go with John Locke and to an extent Wade in his views.
People are generally good and will do the right thing. Of course culture plays a role in that.
The right culture could live ungoverned.
It is incompatible culture and small percentages that fuck this place up.
Unfortunately our govt has weaponized these bad cililtures and personalities against us.
Our culture used to absolutely shun for bad behavior and had equal application of just law for violators.My view does not come from Hobbes but that is beside the point here (although I suspect it is ultimately why we disagree).
You’ve got the freedom to believe what you want and so do I. I’m thankful for that.
If people are good, we should have good cultures. It’s not logical to state that a culture made up of good people suddenly negatively impacts the individual.
You state that a good culture is ruined by a minority of small percentages. Would these “small percentages” have such an impact (ruin a society) if it were not the natural tendency of the rest of the culture to be evil as well? It seems to me that if the rest of culture were naturally good, the culture could resist the evil until it dies out. However, we see the exact opposite.
I do agree the right culture under perfect circumstances could live ungoverned, but I do not think we will ever see a society like that. I also agree our current government has pushed the right buttons to (a) stay in power and (b) keep people preoccupied with disagreement rather than the corruption at the top.
I also agree that China sucks, and unfortunately any change of power probably works out negatively for the Chinese people
It’s “hory shit”holy shit. lol.
Why would they release it in the city where their bio lab is located. If it was intentionally released, more likely it was released by US gov or non-gov org.Fuck china. They released Covid to quell Hong Kong and fucked the world. It would be cool if they nuke themselves.
So is this bad or good for the people of China? Or is this the possible beginning of something that can be better (or worse) for the people? Its not like the CCP is an elected bunch correct?
Thank you for your input.
Sum Ting Wong?
This sounds eerily similar to what's happening here in the USA.Sum ting VERY wong...
China's birthrates and marriage rates plummet at uncontrolled freefall:
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China records fewest marriages since 1986, adding to fears of population crisis | CNN
China last year registered the fewest marriages since its public records began more than three decades ago – adding to concerns the country faces a looming demographic crisis.amp.cnn.com
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In a new survey, China asks why its citizens are unwilling to have kids
The nationwide maternity and marital survey is one of the largest conducted by China as it tries to gain insight into why marriage and birth rates are falling in the world’s most populous country.amp.scmp.com
Young people opting out of marriage and not starting families at record numbers. The CCP is so terrified that they have been relentlessly pumping propaganda into the networks urging people to have more kids, but the reality is, with all of the lockdown shenanigans, bank corruption, mortgage scams, etc., people are simply coming to the conclusion that it is unwise to invest in any future planning, and thus putting things like marriage and families on hold indefinitely. There is no certainty and no sense of security in a country where the government is essentially running a giant Ponzi scheme with it's finances and politics. People are catching on quickly. Just because the state censors scrub social media trends does not mean that cynicism and absolute suspicion can be quelled. It is called a "black pill", and it is the quickest growing trend amongst China's young people, and their actions are pretty much telling the Communist Party to "grow old and die alone, we will not be taking care of you or even coming to visit you".
the real threat to west is the rabid spread of LGBTQ non sense.This sounds eerily similar to what's happening here in the USA.
Dude sheath your Kirpan!the real threat to west is the rabid spread of LGBTQ non sense.
any updates to possible coup?
But he is not wrong!!Dude sheath your Kirpan!
Your gonna get the lefties all after you and create some more scenes of hypocrisy.
Sum ting VERY wong...
China's birthrates and marriage rates plummet at uncontrolled freefall:
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China records fewest marriages since 1986, adding to fears of population crisis | CNN
China last year registered the fewest marriages since its public records began more than three decades ago – adding to concerns the country faces a looming demographic crisis.amp.cnn.com
![]()
In a new survey, China asks why its citizens are unwilling to have kids
The nationwide maternity and marital survey is one of the largest conducted by China as it tries to gain insight into why marriage and birth rates are falling in the world’s most populous country.amp.scmp.com
Young people opting out of marriage and not starting families at record numbers. The CCP is so terrified that they have been relentlessly pumping propaganda into the networks urging people to have more kids, but the reality is, with all of the lockdown shenanigans, bank corruption, mortgage scams, etc., people are simply coming to the conclusion that it is unwise to invest in any future planning, and thus putting things like marriage and families on hold indefinitely. There is no certainty and no sense of security in a country where the government is essentially running a giant Ponzi scheme with it's finances and politics. People are catching on quickly. Just because the state censors scrub social media trends does not mean that cynicism and absolute suspicion can be quelled. It is called a "black pill", and it is the quickest growing trend amongst China's young people, and their actions are pretty much telling the Communist Party to "grow old and die alone, we will not be taking care of you or even coming to visit you".