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Choate Tactical stock
- Thread starter BigBman
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I ran one for a while.
I put some PTG bottom metal in it and function wise it was quite good.
Not bad but not nearly the quality of a manners or Mcmillan.
I should probably sell it it here on the PX at some point
Now I know why everyone laughs at me.
Ya, showing up anywhere with aChoate is a non-starter for a lot of guys
I bought mine years ago.
Broke my 1000 yard cherry with it.
back then Savage options We’re a lot thinner.
Put it into a chassis about 5 years ago and don’t regret it.
I tried retiring my savage recently but it wouldn’t go away so I put it back into the Choat to see if I still liked it.
I 100% preferred the chassis and quickly Switched back.
If you already have the Chote stock and the rifle shoots well then it's probably not worth changing. I'd pick something else depending on the budget if starting from zero.
I don't think I'd care about being taken serious over gear. There's plenty of guys that show up to matches of all types with high end pistols/rifles and get embarrassed by someone that's been practicing with their rack grade / OTC gear.
I don't think I'd care about being taken serious over gear. There's plenty of guys that show up to matches of all types with high end pistols/rifles and get embarrassed by someone that's been practicing with their rack grade / OTC gear.
Wasn’t there a thread about a week or so ago about learning to be proficient with your equipment and not trying to think a new piece will automatically make you a better shooter?
Sure if you already own, but did I read this wrong into thinking he wants to buy something
But honestly, the Choate is not doing any favors, might as well say keep the Savage Tupperware stock and learn on that
You guys have a serious comprehension problem, there are things that do help to improve the fit and function and there are redundant things that have zero bearings.
HE HAS A SAVAGE ACCU STOCK, buying a Choate was be an example of bad investment which has nothing to do with run what you have and learn on it
But honestly, the Choate is not doing any favors, might as well say keep the Savage Tupperware stock and learn on that
You guys have a serious comprehension problem, there are things that do help to improve the fit and function and there are redundant things that have zero bearings.
HE HAS A SAVAGE ACCU STOCK, buying a Choate was be an example of bad investment which has nothing to do with run what you have and learn on it
I comprehended very well actually. I didn’t say he shouldn’t buy a stock. I also didn’t say he should buy a Choate. I was merely trying to induce critical thinking. Give us a little more info to help us help him kind of thing.
He hasn’t stated anything about shooting matches. He hasn’t said anything about that kind of shooting he does or if he is having a hard time getting comfortable behind the stock or if it shoot great or terrible.
He hasn’t stated anything about shooting matches. He hasn’t said anything about that kind of shooting he does or if he is having a hard time getting comfortable behind the stock or if it shoot great or terrible.
To be fair I though the Choat was a LOT nicer and easier to shoot than the factory stock.
These days if you can afford a bit more coin there’s better options for sure.
Well sure,
The Savage stocks are notoriously terrible, just about anything would be an upgrade, they aren't called Tupperware for no reason
But upgrading from one bad thing to another is never very smart.
The Savage stocks are notoriously terrible, just about anything would be an upgrade, they aren't called Tupperware for no reason
But upgrading from one bad thing to another is never very smart.
I bought a Savage in a Chote back in '02. That rifle shot really well and I shouldn't have sold it. I recall friends with Remington PSS and LTRs talking trash right up until we started pulling targets. Chote wouldn't be my choice today but I think you could do worse too.
I bought one of the Choate "Ultimate Sniper" stocks for a Remington .223 Varmint Special heavy barrel oh... around early 1990's. It was designed by John Plaster, apparently. And is not very snipery, nor is it Ultimate. It is ungodly heavy. Ergonomically... interesting. And they have become something of a joke in the precision marksman community.
That said... my varmint special was an utter tack driver of a rifle. On the morning I sighted it in. Then the humidity would get into the wood stock and the POI would shift by lunch. And the next day. And the next day. It got tiresome. The wood factory stock was just a joke.
When I put the Varmint Special it in the Choate stock, the rifle was transformed. I sighted it in more than 25 years ago. And it still hits POI with the handloads (that I still have not run out of!). The Choate is, functionally, a good stock that really took a good rifle and helped it stay on target when the original stock was appalling. And IIRC, it was not very expensive. Though money was tighter in the 1990's!
Would I buy another? No. There are WAY better platforms/chassis out there. I'd start with KRG, in fact. Kinetic Research and @Massoud are first rate and great citizens here on SH. And their options are fantastic, if your rifle fits one of their chassis/platforms. Manners or McMillan are also fine stocks. But I like what KRG has done over the years. A lot of 'Hide feedback has gone into their products.
Is the Choate the worst stock in the world? Well.. no. Not the 'worst.' But there are a lot of better options today vs. the 1990's!
Cheres,
Sirhr
That said... my varmint special was an utter tack driver of a rifle. On the morning I sighted it in. Then the humidity would get into the wood stock and the POI would shift by lunch. And the next day. And the next day. It got tiresome. The wood factory stock was just a joke.
When I put the Varmint Special it in the Choate stock, the rifle was transformed. I sighted it in more than 25 years ago. And it still hits POI with the handloads (that I still have not run out of!). The Choate is, functionally, a good stock that really took a good rifle and helped it stay on target when the original stock was appalling. And IIRC, it was not very expensive. Though money was tighter in the 1990's!
Would I buy another? No. There are WAY better platforms/chassis out there. I'd start with KRG, in fact. Kinetic Research and @Massoud are first rate and great citizens here on SH. And their options are fantastic, if your rifle fits one of their chassis/platforms. Manners or McMillan are also fine stocks. But I like what KRG has done over the years. A lot of 'Hide feedback has gone into their products.
Is the Choate the worst stock in the world? Well.. no. Not the 'worst.' But there are a lot of better options today vs. the 1990's!
Cheres,
Sirhr
I used a Choate in a few matches a while back and it was alright. Heavy, bulky, and a retarded bipod attachment system, but other than that it was alright. Rifle shot pretty well with it. Better than a magpul hunter, not as good as a KRG Bravo.
I think the cheek piece on the Chote Varmint I had was held on with wood screws. All of those "fancy" Remington PSS stocks were filled with foam, half of them were warped too. We're kind of spoiled today, gear sure had changed.
Only those of the guys I beat using it! Which wasn’t very many...
Of course I’m running that top notch rifle with the 260 master race cartridge, MOA, SFP and no brake!
I shot a match and a guy I was squad with was one shot out of tying for first with a Rem 700, choate tac, 223 Ackley, and a swfa 10x.
This thread brings up fond memories, baking in the hot eastern Washington sun, not a clue about what I was doing but giddy like a schoolgirl when that steel clanged
rock star!
IIRC some guy in the UK shot a world record of some kind with a Choate stock... it was on SH a few years ago.
Someone remember what the record was?
Cheers,
Sirhr
Someone remember what the record was?
Cheers,
Sirhr
You came to the wrong place if you want love for cheap equipment that works reasonably well. Unless it costs a good portion of your kids college fund, it'll be frowned upon.
The Choate tactical stock is heavy injection molded polymer around an aluminum chassis. The fit and finish is what you'd expect for $200. The bipod system sucks.
But know what? It's solid as a rock and it works for minimal cost. It can take a huge barrel contour, and they are available with DBM cuts. I liked the ergonomics of it.
I'm a MPA chassis fan now, but my Choate tactical served me well.
The Choate tactical stock is heavy injection molded polymer around an aluminum chassis. The fit and finish is what you'd expect for $200. The bipod system sucks.
But know what? It's solid as a rock and it works for minimal cost. It can take a huge barrel contour, and they are available with DBM cuts. I liked the ergonomics of it.
I'm a MPA chassis fan now, but my Choate tactical served me well.
It's sitting in a MPA still sleeping until called upon. The MPA didn't make it shoot any better.
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Cheers,
Sirhr
If he showed up with a choate to shoot with me, I'd tell him to come on, hammer down, and have fun.
so given the choices today, on a new purchase you’d consider buying a Choate vs everything else?
Like I said, I'm a MPA BA user. I'd buy a MPA over anything else, assuming I wanted to spend more than $500.
Under 500, I'd look hard at the Bravo. But I wouldn't knock him if he showed up with the choate. They do what they were designed to do, tacticool expensive or not.
You are correct that they are frowned upon by the cool kids, even if they work.
I have 4 LH Savage action rifles that reside in Choate Tactical stocks,and 2 LH Custom action rifles that reside in a KRG Whiskey 3 and Bravo chassis. Sure is funny that the rifles in the Choate stocks shoot just as good,and some times better than those custom chassis do.
Yes,The Choate stocks are heavy,not as fancy,etc.,but they work just fine.
Back when I put together the Savage action rifles there were only about 4 options for a LH Savage composite or chassis style stock. Choate, McCrees,or if you wanted to wait 9-12 months - Manners & McMillan. I chose the Choate stock,and have been very happy with them.
There are too many Brand snobs around here. Some of us just like to shoot/hunt,we could care less what type of equipment the PRO's or wanna be's use. We get it,Some of you guy's live and play hard with your equipment and in that case you need to buy the best stuff made. The rest of us are recreational shooter's,and are happy to buy stuff that works for us and we can afford.
Yes,The Choate stocks are heavy,not as fancy,etc.,but they work just fine.
Back when I put together the Savage action rifles there were only about 4 options for a LH Savage composite or chassis style stock. Choate, McCrees,or if you wanted to wait 9-12 months - Manners & McMillan. I chose the Choate stock,and have been very happy with them.
There are too many Brand snobs around here. Some of us just like to shoot/hunt,we could care less what type of equipment the PRO's or wanna be's use. We get it,Some of you guy's live and play hard with your equipment and in that case you need to buy the best stuff made. The rest of us are recreational shooter's,and are happy to buy stuff that works for us and we can afford.
if you can find one used for $100, buy it. It’s worth that over a factory stock. Otherwise, save your money and get a chassis.
related note, my first “build” was a savage 110 donor action, shilen barrel chambered to 6.5x55 by northland shooters supply, and a Choate Ultimate Sniper. Topped by a Bushnell elite 6-24x50. Literally 4 different colors. I put the rifle up for sale and couldn’t get $700 anywhere, so I took it to cabelas and they gave me $600 for it.
went back the next week and they had a tag on it for $750 with the label “Ultimate Sniper Rifle”. I loved it. And my buddies who knew it was there would go by weekly and take pics to send to me.
related note, my first “build” was a savage 110 donor action, shilen barrel chambered to 6.5x55 by northland shooters supply, and a Choate Ultimate Sniper. Topped by a Bushnell elite 6-24x50. Literally 4 different colors. I put the rifle up for sale and couldn’t get $700 anywhere, so I took it to cabelas and they gave me $600 for it.
went back the next week and they had a tag on it for $750 with the label “Ultimate Sniper Rifle”. I loved it. And my buddies who knew it was there would go by weekly and take pics to send to me.
lol!
I was proud of that rifle, beside the barrels it didn’t change for years.
That rifle now.
FYI, if you think “John Plaster” or “ultimate sniper” when you hear the word choate.......you’re old.
(FYI, this is always what I think when I hear choate ?)
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Plaster Man was SOG. Started his own company. Has sold a lot of stocks over the years. Having seen the results of practical inexpensive stocks he just expanded on that idea. We call air strikes on people with inexpensive stocks. Playing Army with expensive gear is a completely different "game" and Choate was never designed for that not do they give a shit. You want to play militia for the Zombie War and Savage Choate is running good somebody is going to take a shit on you staying in place. And that is all I got to say about that. -- Forrest
Does crop dustin at Walmart count as calling in an air strike on people with cheap crap?
True, but it’s just as true that this:
Works just as good as this:
I honestly might choose the first one if I was going to the store. However, I would not choose the first if I was going to be in a race.
So too it is with rifles.
I’m pretty sure that Egan Bernal would beat me if he was on the first and I was on the second, but I’d have no chance at all the other way around.
Works just as good as this:
I honestly might choose the first one if I was going to the store. However, I would not choose the first if I was going to be in a race.
So too it is with rifles.
I’m pretty sure that Egan Bernal would beat me if he was on the first and I was on the second, but I’d have no chance at all the other way around.
Of course they’re different. Ones a girls bike The other isn’t. What guy would want to be in a race riding a girls bike??
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