Clerk 1 - Robber 0

[hermosabeach]

http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/gas-station-clerk-shoots-armed-robber-in-mt-clemens
video in link

MOUNT CLEMENS, Mich. (FOX 2) - A gas station clerk shot an armed robber in Mount Clemens Wednesday afternoon.
Deputies say a suspect wearing a mask went into the Mobil gas station at 116 S. Main Street at about 5:10 p.m. Using a hand gun, the man attempted to rob the clerk and customers inside the store.
The clerk, who was armed, shot the suspect


update
http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/loc...-station-clerk-who-shot-armed-robbery-suspect

MOUNT CLEMENS, Mich. (FOX 2) - The Macomb County Prosecutor’s Office agreed with the sheriff, saying the 25-year-old Detroit man who shot an armed robbery suspect inside a Mount Clemens gas station will not be charged.
The prosecutor made the announcement Friday, one day after the sheriff's office presented findings that showed the robbery suspect had been shot six times.
he prosecutor said he's being charged with three counts of armed robbery and five counts of weapons charges including possession by a felon. All of the crimes he was charged with are felonies

 

[Stevo86]

"I didn’t feel that he should have kept firing his weapon as often as he did. He had already hit the guy, no telling how many times. It seemed to me like he was trying to make sure he really wanted to hurt the guy." What a vagina

 

[thejeep]

Newport’s.... real gangsters only steal kools

 

[Maggot]

6 hits from a revolver-

Somebody's been putting int heir range time. Good man.

 

[P-Squared]

yeh but hitting him six times and not dead, he needs to step up to the Lords caliber

 

[Yasherka]

yeh but hitting him six times and not dead, he needs to step up to the Lords caliber

And get some good-quality subway-proven hollowpoints

 

[QuickNDirty]

Incidentally, I just found out about this YouTube channel hosted by none other than HPD!

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWB2htveAPsGfmHgHDpC3Yg

Kinda curious how this one would have played out with me, since I'd have a handgun on my hip and a 12ga right there on the floorboard where the dude was when they pulled up.

 

[buffalowinter]

I hate to comment on anything I wasn't at personally, but I would keep firing until the assailant was no longer standing or armed. The guy didn't die, so obviously theres wasn't even lethal force. Also, I infer from the news article, that the assailant didn't drop his firearm after hit numerous times. As long as the victim didn't shoot the assailant once he went down or was no longer armed, I feel he is good to go. You have no idea if the assailant is wearing body armor, psychotic, or chemically assisted. I've done things with an injury that doctors said I shouldn't have been able to do.

 

[Mwalex]

Hmmm,...six hits, probably out of six shots, and the robber is still alive. Either he was using a small caliber or did not hit center of mass. Decent shooter under pressure and lucky scumbag. Shooter needs to upgrade ammo or go with a bigger caliber.

 

[Blue Sky Country]

I bet that the .357 rounds were target wadcutter cartridges, hence the poor stopping power. Of course, shot placement is the key factor to bullet lethality. I know guys who have dropped deer with heart shots using .22 LR semiauto and bolt rifles. Elmer Keith's turn of the 20th century interviews with Civil War veterans and ranchers have revealed that the .36 caliber round ball from the 1851 and 1861 Naval pattern revolvers has had a proven record of being able to kill with one shot, by the men who relied on these weapons well into the cartridge and semiautomatic era.

On paper, the ballistics does not seem all that effective:

.375 swaged lead ball: 80 grains
22 grains FFFg maximum charge

Out of a 7.5" barrel 1851 Navy: Average 1020 feet/second

1020 X 1020 X 80 = 83,232,000

Divide that by the kinetic energy conversion constant 450240 and you will get 185 foot pounds of energy. That is approximately within the .380 ACP and 9mm Kurz range. Hardly impressive by the standards of contemporary service and defensive pistol cartridges. And yet it accomplished enough to earn it a permanent place among legendary firearms.

 

[oneshot86]

yeh but hitting him six times and not dead, he needs to step up to the Lords caliber

never know what the jergoff was on.
if deadly force is justified, shoot to immediately incapacitate and dont stop

 

[armorpl8chikn]

yeh but hitting him six times and not dead, he needs to step up to the Lords caliber

I bet that the .357 rounds were target wadcutter cartridges, hence the poor stopping power. Of course, shot placement is the key factor to bullet lethality. I know guys who have dropped deer with heart shots using .22 LR semiauto and bolt rifles. Elmer Keith's turn of the 20th century interviews with Civil War veterans and ranchers have revealed that the .36 caliber round ball from the 1851 and 1861 Naval pattern revolvers has had a proven record of being able to kill with one shot, by the men who relied on these weapons well into the cartridge and semiautomatic era.

On paper, the ballistics does not seem all that effective:

.375 swaged lead ball: 80 grains
22 grains FFFg maximum charge

Out of a 7.5" barrel 1851 Navy: Average 1020 feet/second

1020 X 1020 X 80 = 83,232,000

Divide that by the kinetic energy conversion constant 450240 and you will get 185 foot pounds of energy. That is approximately within the .380 ACP and 9mm Kurz range. Hardly impressive by the standards of contemporary service and defensive pistol cartridges. And yet it accomplished enough to earn it a permanent place among legendary firearms.

You Fudds make me want to take a warm bath with a razor.

 

[EddieNFL]

*

You Fudds make me want to take a warm bath with a razor.

I have a Gillete I was going to throw out.

 

[P-Squared]

You Fudds make me want to take a warm bath with a razor.

Remember - down not across. Just trying to help you avoid that embarrassing time in the psych ward.