It sounds like he was flipping guns off gunbroker as a side business and the ATF has been saying for the past couple years they want to crack down on that. This is what it looks like when our thug government picks out somebody to stomp on.
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Join the contest SubscribeSalary was 250K, but he was selling guns on the side to make a few extra bucks? I have no idea what he did or didn’t do, but that’s odd.
Maybe he owed
Hunter Biden wants to know..Doubt it. He sounds like the type of guy who thought he was smart buying used glocks online for 400 each and selling them for 650 at the local gun show. I've known plenty of people like that over the years who thought they were business geniuses because they purchased used stuff and flipped it (tools, cars, tractors, whatever).
If I was making that type of money.... I'd be a Knob Creek dude.Maybe he owed
Sure. I guess having a early morning shoot out with a perp gives them street cred. You're right.if they arrested him at the gun show, all their undercover fed bois would get exposed, possibly. cant have that now, can they ?
Take notice,this could very well happen to anyone in here....just because??????????????This guy was gainfully employed and had a regular schedule. ATF could have picked him up at any time they wanted to outside the home yet they decided the best approach was high risk predawn no-knock raid. At this point I'm not sure whether to call it unbelievably shitty police work or just homicidal incompetence.
Take notice,this could very well happen to anyone in here....just because??????????????
You probably missed the one where he bought a gun and it got seized from a felon 14 days later.1. ATF could have picked him up while he was in Washington, talking to his congressmen. A FEW DAYS before.
2.. I've seen this episode on Burn Notice. 'Someone' wants an airport person to 'overlook' certain flights. If the person refuses, they kill him
3. Dead executive stated; It's legal to sell personal firearms to people over 21 in ARK
4. Where does it say, that you have to have an FFL to sell personal weapons at an ARK gun show. Laws very state to state, anyone know ARK gun show law?
5. sighs, 'INTENT'. you buy a weapon for yourself. AT WHAT point.. WHAT point can you legally get rid of it? Is there a law that states you must hold on to that weapon for X number of days? Curious minds want to know.
6. Yup, he bought 150 weapons over 3 years, I bet some of those were Law Enforcement cheap trade ins. some of those glocks were going for 250 bucks a piece a few years ago.
7. Why didn't they serve him at his place of work?
8. if you're driving home, and you realize some stranger is following you, possibly wanting to do you harm.. YOU DON"T KNOW
a. pull over for a meet and greet?b. drive straight home so, they know where you live?c. Call the ATF and ask them if they are following you, which if they are, they are going to say no anyways.d. pull over, leave keys in car, and wallet on seat and uber home
This approach is highly likely to kill gun owners trying to protect themselves and their families from unknown attackers. The ATF knows this, knows the family in the house was armed, knew the family had guns and gold on hand which makes them a prime target for a an armed home invasion, and yet still went forward with the raid.Take notice,this could very well happen to anyone in here....just because??????????????
koresh could have been easily picked up during a walk outside his compound. weaver the same with a daytime door knock. neither would have resisted. the purpose of both raids,and this one, was to kill someone not complying with the nwo agenda,even at that time. wrong outcome in nov and you will starat to see frequent,or rather more frequent,murders by the feds. that in addition to the ones they allow and encourage by their recently imported helpers form south of the border.The news stories and videos cast a lot of suspicion om this. Dude does exactly cast the image of a hard core gunfighter. They probably could have easily picked him up in the parking lot of his job....ya know, so they didnt have a reason to destroy his property. It is also horseshit that Feds are not required to wear body cameras
not manslaughter. murder 1. definitely premeditated.This approach is highly likely to kill gun owners trying to protect themselves and their families from unknown attackers. The ATF knows this, knows the family in the house was armed, knew the family had guns and gold on hand which makes them a prime target for a an armed home invasion, and yet still went forward with the raid.
The only explanation I can think of is the ATF guys really really wanted to play with their fancy tatical gear and vehicles and didn't give a shit about who might get hurt in the process.
Everyone involved needs to lose their jobs and never be allowed to work in law enforcment again. Prosecution for manslaughter should be on the table but is not realistic due to the American public's love affair with cops.
something tells me that was part of the point AFT wanted to get across.
Some times ya gotta crack a few eggs to get the point across, oops I mean break bread. Don't want the images of an ATF director that can't break a glock down being the only image the public remembers about the ATF do you.A punitive, high profile "arrest" vs a low profile, quite, peaceful one.
I just go to look. Prices always higher at the Gun Shows these days.So he's allegedly buying guns online and reselling them at higher prices at gun shows? Who the hell goes to a gun show to pay higher prices?
gun show prices here are stone psycho like pawn shops. will never understand the business model used.
gun show prices here are stone psycho like pawn shops. will never understand the business model used.
$50 for 4895 1lb is OK? glad i don't reload. long ago when i did maybe $6?I haven’t gone to many in the last few years. A big one if I’m looking for something specific that’s hard to find.
I typically walk right past all the “show dealers”, prices are nuts.
Deals can be found though. Usually from estate sale type booths.
Last one I went to was to help a buddy sell some old Winchester corn cob shotguns he’d inherited. That cost me. Sold all his, but came home with a mint Win Super X1 $550, 1 pound H4895 $50, & a new Dillon Super Swage kit $100. I’m happy with those deals.
Sadly $50 is a decent price if you can find it at all in the current market. Look up the price of an 8lb jug of RL16 $450+$50 for 4895 1lb is OK? glad i don't reload. long ago when i did maybe $6?
The "Government" is the largest employer in America. Been that way for several years.Back on topic. Something stinks about this whole thing.
.Gov is not trust worthy at all yeah yeah we all know that.
So we’ll probably never know the truth. Might blow there cover/methods bla bla.
Didn’t they do a predawn Swat raid on Paul Manafor. Tipped the media beforehand. He’s no gunslinger so yeah they deserve zero trust.
Not defending .Gov at all, but if this guy was an addict it would explain a lot. The erratic driving/parking & the low life crowd he was dealing with. He wants his fix & they want guns. The guy had means but in-order to purchase drugs the dealers may have squeezed the guy for whatever such as guns.
Hell that would also potentially explain how he caught the Feds attention. May have been a referral from local LE drug task force etc.
Corruption has metastasized throughout local, state, & Fed governments for sure but that’s not a guarantee that every action is corrupt. I don’t have enough information to pass judgement on this one. We may never have it and that’s a huge problem. China Grins.
Hopefully they release a toxicology report an minimum. Even then the distrust runs so deep many will not by the narrative. More often than not these days the narrative put out is complete BS.
Heard the Alabama senator on the radio today state that the number of federal employees just passed 23million. That’s insane!
Lon Tomohisa HoriuchiThis approach is highly likely to kill gun owners trying to protect themselves and their families from unknown attackers. The ATF knows this, knows the family in the house was armed, knew the family had guns and gold on hand which makes them a prime target for a an armed home invasion, and yet still went forward with the raid.
The only explanation I can think of is the ATF guys really really wanted to play with their fancy tatical gear and vehicles and didn't give a shit about who might get hurt in the process.
Everyone involved needs to lose their jobs and never be allowed to work in law enforcment again. Prosecution for manslaughter should be on the table but is not realistic due to the American public's love affair with cops.
isn't like 42% of the current economy tied to government spending? this graph is 2020-21.The "Government" is the largest employer in America. Been that way for several years.
Epstein killed himself, right?Hopefully they release a toxicology report an minimum.
Being you brought that up.isn't like 42% of the current economy tied to government spending? this graph is 2020-21.
without spending billions on build back better and the new green deal, it would look terrible.
problem is i don't see the improvements? still got to drive around potholes.
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Obviously, that was the plan from the beginning.I’ve seen a few vids on YT about it. None of it makes any sense from what I’ve heard.