Neither are technically a rifle, just didn’t see much in the pistol thread about any pistol caliber carbines. I wanted an akv9 but they seem impossible to get. Haven’t seen one on their site, been checking for months, theY won’t do pre orders, and I have it set up to notify me when they are in stock, but haven’t gotten any alerts that there are any ever. Was thinking CMMG banshee maybe, I love hk and have usp 40c, vp9 with some upgrades, and an hk45 tactical od green v7 lem with hk parts mag extenders, but the prices for USC 45 to UMP 45 Conversion or a mp5 are a little steep for me. Was possibly contemplating the POF mp5 clone, but it’s still a clone not a legit Hk mp5. Anybody have any experience with the cmmg banshee in 45 acp or any other caliber for that matter, Fired any other pcc guns to compare it to etc... I can’t find a whole lot about them from actual owners, some YouTube videos, but they seem biased to me. Just wondering about real world impressions from actual people who paid for one with their own had earned cash. Or should I just say forget the pcc and get a tavor 7? Any thoughts or suggestions are appreciated.