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DARPA XM-3 Sniper Rifle S6544653
Listing # 8921

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Listing Format:	Auction
Current price :	$2,500.00
Starting bid:	$1.00
# of bids:	15
Closes:	11 Days, 16 Hours
Location:	Alabama, United States
Started:	12/9/2024
Ends:	12/21/2024
Seller:	cmp1 View this user's other listings
High Bidder(s):	CMPUser30773
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DESCRIPTION

DARPA XM3 Sniper Rifle with Scope
Iron Brigade Armory
Serial Number S6544653

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Highlights:
Receiver: Remington 700 Short Action
Caliber: .308
Bolt: Large Ball, Last 4 of SN on bolt handle
Bi-Pod: Mounted on rifle
Scope: Nightforce NXS 3.5-15x50, SN: Q04957 very clear and crisp
Rings: Nightforce
Receiver mount: Iron Brigade Armory, Last 4 of SN stamped on bottom
Markings & Other information:
Iron Brigade Armory assembled DARPA XM3 Sniper Rifle system in STORMCASE iM3200 case.

• Stock is medium green in color
  
• Barrel is clean and well maintained. Last 4 of SN stamped on the left side.
  
• Included data book tracks 535 rounds of various military sniper grade ammunition.
  
• Weapon Record Books (2)
  
• Rifle case also includes:
  
  • Suppressor cover,
  • Suppressor carry pouch,
  • J. Dewey cleaning rod
  • serialized tool case w/ basic hand tools and torque wrench.

Sold as is
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Payment Details: Payment must be received in 10 days from auction closing date. If payment is not received within the allotted time, item is forfeited and subject to next highest bidder or re-listing. Checkout instructions will be emailed to auction winner at time of closing. CMP accepts Visa, MasterCard, American Express, Discover, personal checks, money orders and bank (cashier) checks. CMP does accept debit cards, but if using a debit card please provide the CVV2 # from the back of the debit card.

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[Redmanss]

Whoever used silver duct tape for that cheek rest needs to start thrashing themself until I get tired.

 

[cuirc]

Whoever used silver duct tape for that cheek rest needs to start thrashing themself until I get tired.

I agree it looks like ... indescribable... but it also adds originality I have to assume that the soldier that used it was making it more comfortable to do a better job.

 

[Redmanss]

I agree it looks like ... indescribable... but it also adds originality I have to assume that the soldier that used it was making it more comfortable to do a better job.

It's not that there's a taped on cheek rest, thats' something we all did, it's that they used silver duct tape. FFS, that basically violates all techniques of camouflage and makes me question the actual "originality" of it.

We all in the Corps, and I mean every single one I knew, had a healthy supply of OD green rigger's tape at all times. Including in the field where we kept it wrapped around one of our canteens.

In all seriousness, if one of my guys did that to their 40 they would have done mountain climbers until their feet got wet from the pond of sweat or hitting the water table, and then I would have anointed him with the nickname Shine for all their years.

 

[cuirc]

It's not that there's a taped on cheek rest, thats' something we all did, it's that they used silver duct tape. FFS, that basically violates all techniques of camouflage and makes me question the actual "originality" of it.

We all in the Corps, and I mean every single one I knew, had a healthy supply of OD green rigger's tape at all times. Including in the field where we kept it wrapped around one of our canteens.

In all seriousness, if one of my guys did that to their 40 they would have done mountain climbers until their feet got wet from the pond of sweat or hitting the water table, and then I would have anointed him with the nickname Shine for all their years.

i sit corrected

 

[FuhQ]

Unpopular opinion...

This is the most ridiculous price I've ever seen for a Remington 700 test rifle (even if it does have the M24 iron sight mount on the side). This was a DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) owned rifle, and based on that, and what I gathered from the description on the website, was never on a battlefield, and was most-likely used simply for testing different prototypes of 7.62x51 match grade ammo. Anyone buys this thing for $11,000 is a dumbass.

 

[cuirc]

Thank You for the heads up

 

[HarryBC]

this auction will most likely close above $20k, some have closed over $25k recently for a documented rifle used in combat. When CMP started auctioning the XM3s a few without documentation went around $11k, with documented combat use, kit and PVS-22 went less than $20k......lots of money chasing collectibles these days.

 

[6.5SH]

It's not that there's a taped on cheek rest, thats' something we all did, it's that they used silver duct tape. FFS, that basically violates all techniques of camouflage and makes me question the actual "originality" of it.

We all in the Corps, and I mean every single one I knew, had a healthy supply of OD green rigger's tape at all times. Including in the field where we kept it wrapped around one of our canteens.

In all seriousness, if one of my guys did that to their 40 they would have done mountain climbers until their feet got wet from the pond of sweat or hitting the water table, and then I would have anointed him with the nickname Shine for all their years.

Maybe it belonged to a Space Shuttle door gunner?

 

[me124704]

Unpopular opinion...

This is the most ridiculous price I've ever seen for a Remington 700 test rifle (even if it does have the M24 iron sight mount on the side). This was a DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) owned rifle, and based on that, and what I gathered from the description on the website, was never on a battlefield, and was most-likely used simply for testing different prototypes of 7.62x51 match grade ammo. Anyone buys this thing for $11,000 is a dumbass.

Are you looking at the auction / rifle he referenced?
The auction he posted looks like a genuine XM-3, and there’s no M24 iron sight mount on the side.

 

[FuhQ]

Are you looking at the auction / rifle he referenced?
The auction he posted looks like a genuine XM-3, and there’s no M24 iron sight mount on the side.

I don’t give a shit what it is…When you break it down, it’s an old used Remington 700 .308 in a McMillan stock with an old ass NF NXS that they want $11,000+ for… If you have more money than brains, go for it.

 

[USMCSGT0331]

Unpopular opinion...

This is the most ridiculous price I've ever seen for a Remington 700 test rifle (even if it does have the M24 iron sight mount on the side). This was a DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) owned rifle, and based on that, and what I gathered from the description on the website, was never on a battlefield, and was most-likely used simply for testing different prototypes of 7.62x51 match grade ammo. Anyone buys this thing for $11,000 is a dumbass.

I don’t give a shit what it is…When you break it down, it’s an old used Remington 700 .308 in a McMillan stock with an old ass NF NXS that they want $11,000+ for… If you have more money than brains, go for it.

Please don't spread misinformation. This is a USMC used/surplus XM3. It's not just a DARPA owned or tested rifle, this is 100% a legit USMC sniper rifle that was most likely used on the battlefield (we need to check the logbook for combat use). Even though the XM3's were prototypes, these weren't just test rifles, these guns were used heavily in combat. To say that these rifles were used to test prototype 7.62x51mm ammunition is completely incorrect. That was literally the entire point of the Mann Accuracy Device rifles, which were custom built to have the best barrels the government could find at the time. The Mann Accuracy Devices were used for decades to test the accuracy and consistency of ammo, and this process was very well documented (I've owned over a dozen of these original Mann Accuracy Devices, ams other collectors have them as well). You don't use an XM3 sniper rifle for this task, you use a very specialized firearm to do ammunition development and testing. Then the ammo will be fired in various types of issued rifles, but the development and testing was done with specialized rifles.

A few of the guns the CMP sold were in like-new condition, but they were actually still brought to Iraq (with some being lightly used and others sitting in the armory). I know this because 1 of the 4 XM3's that my Scout Sniper Platoon had in Fallujah, Iraq sold at a CMP auction, and it was in near new condition. Despite it's great physical condition, I would bet that this rifle was used in combat in Iraq. I has remnants of what appears to be Iraqi moon dust on the duct tape (it's a very distant color and grain size), and the logbook has 535 recorded rounds fired. This wasn't a test rifle for DARPA, this is an actual USMC sniper rifle that was probably used in combat (which might even be recorded in the logbook).

This rifle will sell for far more than $11,000. If it's somehow still at that price at the end of the auction, I'll put in a bid to buy it because $11k would be an absolute steal for this rifle! You might not care for it, but that doesn't make the buyer a "dumbass." Collectors pay tons of money for original war used rifles like this, and they have an appreciation for the rifle's history. Same thing with any other collector group in the world. If someone decides to pay millions of dollars for a very rare vintage Ferrari, then that means they're an enthusiast who truly appreciates that original car. This rifle is no different in that regard (price aside).

I don't know why people constantly come into the Vintage Section to shit on these pieces of history and the people who purchase them for their collection. I spent $28,000 on my original CMP USMC XM3 because it's 1 of the 4 that my SSP had in Fallujah and it was issued to my friend (whose name is still on the cover of the logbook). The guy who was bidding against me (as I later found out) was issued the same rifle on a previous deployment, since the XM3's were left in Iraq as regional assets and numerous snipers from different units used each rifle.

I'm truly honored to have a piece of my Scout Sniper Platoon history, especially an original sniper rifle! It's one of the items that I cherish the most, and I'll never part with it in this lifetime. You might think that I'm a dumbass for spending $28,000 on my XM3, but I don't care, that rifle means a lot to me and it had absolutely no effect on me financially. It's also the most well known and well documented USMC XM3 in the world, and I've been offered double the price I paid for it (which I've turned down each time). So, it also turned out to be an excellent investment, if I ever choose to sell it (but I'm never going to sell it, so I just don't care what the rifle is worth).

These USMC XM3's might only be old beat-up Remington 700's to you, but to many people here, these rifles are an amazing piece of USMC Scout Sniper history! Almost everything the CMP sells is vintage, so having these modern sniper rifles available to collectors is absolutely amazing. Even though you don't like the rifle at all, it doesn't make it a worthless piece of trash.

Again, I don't know why people (it's not just you, there are others as well) come into these threads in the Vintage Section to shit all over the stuff that we all collect and enjoy. We get it, you don't like the rifle and you think it's worthless. I'm sure there's plenty of stuff on this forum that you would enjoy far more than this thread and this rifle, I just don't know why you and others waste your time writing something that isn't going to change anyone's mind about the rifle.

Negative posts like these don't have any constructive criticism or even a rational argument, and they're all the same, no matter who writes the post. It's always "this gun is overpriced old garbage, so stop liking what I don't like or you're an idiot." It just gets old after a while, and this is something that we constantly see in this section of the forum. It's well known that in this section of the forum is for collectors who enjoy guns like this, but for some reason people still have to go out of their way to shit all over everything here. No one is forcing you or anyone else to purchase this rifle, and the winner of this auction is going to be extremely happy with their purchase! You can have all thr negative opinions about this rifle and others like it, but why insult everyone here who actually enjoys these pieces of history? There's just no point in doing so, and yet it happens all the time.

The XM3 is easily the best sniper rifle the Marines ever had, and it's only major issue was the scope. The NightForce NXS scope was outdated when these rifles were built and issued, and the snipers weren't trained to use the MOA turrets. However, some SSP's pulled the S&B M8541 SSDS scopes from other rifles they had, and they put this far superior scope on their XM3's. This made the XM3 sniper rifles even better! I've own multiple XM3's as well, and every XM3 that I've shot has been an excellent shooter, and they easily printed half an MOA groups over and over.

When compared to other USMC sniper rifles in the late 2000's, the XM3 was shorter, lighter, simpler, had a silencer, and used clip-on night vision (which was a big deal at the time and the M40A3's had just gotten their PGW EFR's when the first XM3's were issued). This was also the very first time that the Marines has a silencer on a bolt action sniper rifle (besides the 2 or 3 prototype M40A3's with cans). The Marines loved the silencer, so it was a success and they carried it on over to the M40A5 and M40A6 sniper rifles later on. The XM3's showed the Corps that you didn't need a 24" barrel and they chopped the length on their M40A6 sniper rifles.

For these reasons, the XM3 is actually very important in the history and development of the later M40xx sniper rifles. Besides the MOA scope turrets, I've never heard a Marine who was issued an XM3 ever complain about the rifle or say anything negative about it. These XM3's were absolutely loved by everyone who carried one in combat! This was an amazing rifle for it's time, and it directly influenced the subsequent M40xx sniper rifles. This is very interesting history that people in this section of the forum enjoy learning and discussing. Understanding all of this information, with the addition of scarcity, makes these original CMP auction rifles so desirable and expensive.

There is a very limited supply of original USMC used XM3's, and the demand for them is massive. These rifles are so popular that a buch of people are currently spending a lot of time/money/effort building clone XM3's. You're correct in the opening of your first post, "unpopular opinion." You nailed it, you are 100% correct with that statement. There's nothing wrong with having that opinion, but I just don't see the point of disparaging and derogatory remarks.

 

[Huskydriver]

 

[USMCSGT0331]

Thank You for the heads up

If you want actual information from someone who has actually owned and fired original USMC XM3's, please read my post above. XM3's are very important in the history of USMC sniper rifles, and they're very interesting to collectors. If you want to purchase an original USMC XM3, then you might want to consider bidding on this rifle. The CMP only received about 36 of the original 52 USMC XM3's, and they've already sold the majority of them.

Once the rifles are sold out, they're gone forever, they'll never get more to sell the pubic. So, that makes these rifles an excellent investment! We've seen their CMP auction prices steadily increase over the past 7 years, and the price will increase a lot more once they're sold out. If you want an original USMC XM3, don't wait around, bid on whatever pops up for sale at the CMP because they're not going to be around forever.

Please let me know if you have any questions about the XM3 rifles or their use in the Marine Corps. I have a lot of knowledge and experience with these specific rifles, and I'll try to answer any questions that you might have.

 

[Budrichard]

Well written!!!!
Although I will not bid, I have enormous respect for the individuals and equipment that have kept me and my family safe! I just wish some of the monies realized went to these individuals!
-Richard

 

[wvfarrier]

A fool and his money....

 

[FuhQ]

Please don't spread misinformation. This is a USMC used/surplus XM3. It's not just a DARPA owned or tested rifle, this is 100% a legit USMC sniper rifle that was most likely used on the battlefield (we need to check the logbook for combat use). Even though the XM3's were prototypes, these weren't just test rifles, these guns were used heavily in combat. To say that these rifles were used to test prototype 7.62x51mm ammunition is completely incorrect. That was literally the entire point of the Mann Accuracy Device rifles, which were custom built to have the best barrels the government could find at the time. The Mann Accuracy Devices were used for decades to test the accuracy and consistency of ammo, and this process was very well documented (I've owned over a dozen of these original Mann Accuracy Devices, ams other collectors have them as well). You don't use an XM3 sniper rifle for this task, you use a very specialized firearm to do ammunition development and testing. Then the ammo will be fired in various types of issued rifles, but the development and testing was done with specialized rifles.

A few of the guns the CMP sold were in like-new condition, but they were actually still brought to Iraq (with some being lightly used and others sitting in the armory). I know this because 1 of the 4 XM3's that my Scout Sniper Platoon had in Fallujah, Iraq sold at a CMP auction, and it was in near new condition. Despite it's great physical condition, I would bet that this rifle was used in combat in Iraq. I has remnants of what appears to be Iraqi moon dust on the duct tape (it's a very distant color and grain size), and the logbook has 535 recorded rounds fired. This wasn't a test rifle for DARPA, this is an actual USMC sniper rifle that was probably used in combat (which might even be recorded in the logbook).

This rifle will sell for far more than $11,000. If it's somehow still at that price at the end of the auction, I'll put in a bid to buy it because $11k would be an absolute steal for this rifle! You might not care for it, but that doesn't make the buyer a "dumbass." Collectors pay tons of money for original war used rifles like this, and they have an appreciation for the rifle's history. Same thing with any other collector group in the world. If someone decides to pay millions of dollars for a very rare vintage Ferrari, then that means they're an enthusiast who truly appreciates that original car. This rifle is no different in that regard (price aside).

I don't know why people constantly come into the Vintage Section to shit on these pieces of history and the people who purchase them for their collection. I spent $28,000 on my original CMP USMC XM3 because it's 1 of the 4 that my SSP had in Fallujah and it was issued to my friend (whose name is still on the cover of the logbook). The guy who was bidding against me (as I later found out) was issued the same rifle on a previous deployment, since the XM3's were left in Iraq as regional assets and numerous snipers from different units used each rifle.

I'm truly honored to have a piece of my Scout Sniper Platoon history, especially an original sniper rifle! It's one of the items that I cherish the most, and I'll never part with it in this lifetime. You might think that I'm a dumbass for spending $28,000 on my XM3, but I don't care, that rifle means a lot to me and it had absolutely no effect on me financially. It's also the most well known and well documented USMC XM3 in the world, and I've been offered double the price I paid for it (which I've turned down each time). So, it also turned out to be an excellent investment, if I ever choose to sell it (but I'm never going to sell it, so I just don't care what the rifle is worth).

These USMC XM3's might only be old beat-up Remington 700's to you, but to many people here, these rifles are an amazing piece of USMC Scout Sniper history! Almost everything the CMP sells is vintage, so having these modern sniper rifles available to collectors is absolutely amazing. Even though you don't like the rifle at all, it doesn't make it a worthless piece of trash.

Again, I don't know why people (it's not just you, there are others as well) come into these threads in the Vintage Section to shit all over the stuff that we all collect and enjoy. We get it, you don't like the rifle and you think it's worthless. I'm sure there's plenty of stuff on this forum that you would enjoy far more than this thread and this rifle, I just don't know why you and others waste your time writing something that isn't going to change anyone's mind about the rifle.

Negative posts like these don't have any constructive criticism or even a rational argument, and they're all the same, no matter who writes the post. It's always "this gun is overpriced old garbage, so stop liking what I don't like or you're an idiot." It just gets old after a while, and this is something that we constantly see in this section of the forum. It's well known that in this section of the forum is for collectors who enjoy guns like this, but for some reason people still have to go out of their way to shit all over everything here. No one is forcing you or anyone else to purchase this rifle, and the winner of this auction is going to be extremely happy with their purchase! You can have all thr negative opinions about this rifle and others like it, but why insult everyone here who actually enjoys these pieces of history? There's just no point in doing so, and yet it happens all the time.

The XM3 is easily the best sniper rifle the Marines ever had, and it's only major issue was the scope. The NightForce NXS scope was outdated when these rifles were built and issued, and the snipers weren't trained to use the MOA turrets. However, some SSP's pulled the S&B M8541 SSDS scopes from other rifles they had, and they put this far superior scope on their XM3's. This made the XM3 sniper rifles even better! I've own multiple XM3's as well, and every XM3 that I've shot has been an excellent shooter, and they easily printed half an MOA groups over and over.

When compared to other USMC sniper rifles in the late 2000's, the XM3 was shorter, lighter, simpler, had a silencer, and used clip-on night vision (which was a big deal at the time and the M40A3's had just gotten their PGW EFR's when the first XM3's were issued). This was also the very first time that the Marines has a silencer on a bolt action sniper rifle (besides the 2 or 3 prototype M40A3's with cans). The Marines loved the silencer, so it was a success and they carried it on over to the M40A5 and M40A6 sniper rifles later on. The XM3's showed the Corps that you didn't need a 24" barrel and they chopped the length on their M40A6 sniper rifles.

For these reasons, the XM3 is actually very important in the history and development of the later M40xx sniper rifles. Besides the MOA scope turrets, I've never heard a Marine who was issued an XM3 ever complain about the rifle or say anything negative about it. These XM3's were absolutely loved by everyone who carried one in combat! This was an amazing rifle for it's time, and it directly influenced the subsequent M40xx sniper rifles. This is very interesting history that people in this section of the forum enjoy learning and discussing. Understanding all of this information, with the addition of scarcity, makes these original CMP auction rifles so desirable and expensive.

There is a very limited supply of original USMC used XM3's, and the demand for them is massive. These rifles are so popular that a buch of people are currently spending a lot of time/money/effort building clone XM3's. You're correct in the opening of your first post, "unpopular opinion." You nailed it, you are 100% correct with that statement. There's nothing wrong with having that opinion, but I just don't see the point of disparaging and derogatory remarks.

You could have saved your breath. Also, you can justify it however you like, its your money, not mine. But in the end, whether it was used in combat or not, it’s still essentially a used old R700 .308 in a McMillan stock with an old ass NF NXS on top for $11,000+…

Personally, if I’m hitting remotely near the 5 digit mark on a firearm, it better have a 3 position selector switch in it…

 

[Charger442]

You could have saved your breath. Also, you can justify it however you like, its your money, not mine. But in the end, whether it was used in combat or not, it’s still essentially a used old R700 .308 in a McMillan stock with an old ass NF NXS on top for $11,000+…

Personally, if I’m hitting remotely near the 5 digit mark on a firearm, it better have a 3 position selector switch in it…

and you can save your breath, but you won't.

no one here in the vintage section gives a shit about your opinion. like Ryan said, you're incorrect and maybe you should leave this part of the Hide to people who know what they are talking about.

 

[TurdFerguson]

You could have saved your breath. Also, you can justify it however you like, its your money, not mine. But in the end, whether it was used in combat or not, it’s still essentially a used old R700 .308 in a McMillan stock with an old ass NF NXS on top for $11,000+…

Personally, if I’m hitting remotely near the 5 digit mark on a firearm, it better have a 3 position selector switch in it…

So a mac 10, HR Reising or a clapped out m2 carbine is more your style?

 

[FuhQ]

So a mac 10, HR Reising or a clapped out m2 carbine is more your style?

I didn’t give a price range or model, I just said 5 digits…

 

[diggler1833]

Dude, it has been a few years and my mind isn't what it used to be...but I could swear I saw an XM3 in Ramadi in either 2008 or 2009. Some of them got some 'field' use for sure.

 

[Xcount]

https://cmpauction.thecmp.org/detail.asp?id=8733&n=DARPA-XM3-Sniper-Rifle-with-Scope-S6533815

One went for $40k recently.

 

[TurdFerguson]

I didn’t give a price range or model, I just said 5 digits…

Thats whats your getting for what this rifle will go for….

Hurrr durrr you guys are tarded for looking at dis xm3, i got dis converted Vulcan ar15 for 10k less and it sometimes gets through a full mag, third holes whollered out durr hurr

 

[FuhQ]

Thats whats your getting for what this rifle will go for….

Hurrr durrr you guys are tarded for looking at dis xm3, i got dis converted Vulcan ar15 for 10k less and it sometimes gets through a full mag, third holes whollered out durr hurr

You know they make medicine for that…

 

[cuirc]

If you want actual information from someone who has actually owned and fired original USMC XM3's, please read my post above. XM3's are very important in the history of USMC sniper rifles, and they're very interesting to collectors. If you want to purchase an original USMC XM3, then you might want to consider bidding on this rifle. The CMP only received about 36 of the original 52 USMC XM3's, and they've already sold the majority of them.

Once the rifles are sold out, they're gone forever, they'll never get more to sell the pubic. So, that makes these rifles an excellent investment! We've seen their CMP auction prices steadily increase over the past 7 years, and the price will increase a lot more once they're sold out. If you want an original USMC XM3, don't wait around, bid on whatever pops up for sale at the CMP because they're not going to be around forever.

Please let me know if you have any questions about the XM3 rifles or their use in the Marine Corps. I have a lot of knowledge and experience with these specific rifles, and I'll try to answer any questions that you might have.

If you want actual information from someone who has actually owned and fired original USMC XM3's, please read my post above. XM3's are very important in the history of USMC sniper rifles, and they're very interesting to collectors. If you want to purchase an original USMC XM3, then you might want to consider bidding on this rifle. The CMP only received about 36 of the original 52 USMC XM3's, and they've already sold the majority of them.

Once the rifles are sold out, they're gone forever, they'll never get more to sell the pubic. So, that makes these rifles an excellent investment! We've seen their CMP auction prices steadily increase over the past 7 years, and the price will increase a lot more once they're sold out. If you want an original USMC XM3, don't wait around, bid on whatever pops up for sale at the CMP because they're not going to be around forever.

Please let me know if you have any questions about the XM3 rifles or their use in the Marine Corps. I have a lot of knowledge and experience with these specific rifles, and I'll try to answer any questions that you might have.

I own an m-24 which I believe was used in The service Could you describe the difference bee

 

[USMCSGT0331]

I own an m-24 which I believe was used in The service Could you describe the difference bee

It will be easier if you're able to post some photos and information about your M24, and then we'll be able to tell you exactly what it is. Please post some good clear photos of the overall rifle and any closeup photos of rifle parts you'd like us to see, a few photos of the M24 marked receiver, and photos of any other markings that are on the rifle.

What's the history of the rifle? Is your rifle from one of the limited edition releases? Is it one of the the Army Sniper Association M24's? Or is it one of the M24's that were built from original Army used M24 take-off parts? Was this a former military or police rifle? Was it a civilian ordered M24 from Remington? Or an M24 clone build?

You say that your M24 might have been used in the military, what evidence do you have for this? Any solid information like a FOIA? Or do you have a story from the previous owner? Anything you have about the rifle is helpful. Have you tried to get FOIA paperwork from the US government?

Any information that came with your rifle will help determine if this rifle is a legit Remington M24 or something else. Even if you purchased the rifle from a fellow collector, that person should have told you something about the history of your rifle. Please provide any information that you have about the history of your rifle, the rifle's serial number and any barrel markings.

If you don't feel comfortable posting any of the photos/information about your rifle publicly in this thread, then please send me a private message with all of the photos/information that I requested. It's up to you if you want to post that stuff in this thread or just sending it over to me in a private message. I'll take a look at all thr photos/info and let you know what kind of rifle⁶ you have.

 

[ZY100]

Legit question for my own education.

Tracking this was a USMC rifle. How does it carry a DARPA tag?

Was that perhaps due to rapid fielding process back in the day?

Thx
ZY

 

[hlee]

I don’t give a shit what it is…When you break it down, it’s an old used Remington 700 .308 in a McMillan stock with an old ass NF NXS that they want $11,000+ for… If you have more money than brains, go for it.

You just described the entire mil-surp market.

 

[Charger442]

You just described the entire mil-surp market.

its just so crazy and unfathomable that high demand and low supply (rarity) would make the price of something go up!!

fantastical!!

 

[FuhQ]

its just so crazy and unfathomable that high demand and low supply (rarity) would make the price of something go up!!

fantastical!!

Oh, well in that case, I have a 10th Anniversary 700 5R Milspec (essentially a civi M24) .308 Win that I’d sell for the low low price of $15,000…I’ll even throw in a new ATACR F1 5-25x56 MIL-XT for an additional $5,000.

 

[Gary/CO]

The bider is paying for a piece of history supported by its provenance; as will be evidenced by the CMP paperwork. It's like a M1903A4 that doesn't have papers - Then it's worth the sum of the parts.

 

[hlee]

its just so crazy and unfathomable that high demand and low supply (rarity) would make the price of something go up!!

fantastical!!

When I see some these things, I am reminded of advice freely given by the (once) authority in vintage knife collecting, Bernard Levine. “Buy the knife, not the story.”

 

[RIGREG]

When I see some these things, I am reminded of advice freely given by the (once) authority in vintage knife collecting, Bernard Levine. “Buy the knife, not the story.”

Great advice for collectors. Without evidence, a collectible stands on its merits alone. Condition, scarcity and desirability. There’s a distinction between a “story” and provenance, though. Provenance is irrefutable, chronological documentation and evidence. It proves the story. For some collectors, provenance increases desirability, whether it’s furniture, race cars, fountain pens, or in our case, military firearms.

I’m not discounting your post or looking for a fight. Just pointing out how provenance can turn a $1200 antique desk into a $15,000 historically significant museum piece.

Just imagine if we had the colonist’s musket that fired the “Shot heard round the world” with provenance.

Greg

 

[jbell]

That silver duct tape is pretty unsat… but it makes me laugh

 

[Gary/CO]

Because the Pentagon had to save $$$ for gold plated toilet seats, the guys on the line have to improvise.

I'm going to be a plumbing contractor and steal toilet seats for a living. Easier than getting into Fort Knox.

 

[me124704]

Legit question for my own education.

Tracking this was a USMC rifle. How does it carry a DARPA tag?

Was that perhaps due to rapid fielding process back in the day?

Thx
ZY

DARPA developed the XM-3 for the USMC around 2005. The rifles were built by Iron Brigade Armory. Here’s a link for additional information. Enjoy!

XM-3 on CMP, what’s the story behind these?

Saw this and was curious what the story was. I think I saw one for sale a few years back but didn’t know much about them. https://cmpauction.thecmp.org/detail.asp?id=7582&n=XM-3-Sniper-Rifle-S6528482 Thanks in advance from an ignorant civilian.

www.snipershide.com

 

[me124704]

Oh, well in that case, I have a 10th Anniversary 700 5R Milspec (essentially a civi M24) .308 Win that I’d sell for the low low price of $15,000…I’ll even throw in a new ATACR F1 5-25x56 MIL-XT for an additional $5,000.

Attempting to sell items outside of the PX is a violation of forum rules.

 

[FuhQ]

Attempting to sell items outside of the PX is a violation of forum rules.

It’s a sarcastic joke dumbass.

But I know what you’re trying to do, and it won’t work.

 

[me124704]

It’s a sarcastic joke dumbass.

But I know what you’re trying to do, and it won’t work.

Likewise…

 

[FuhQ]

Likewise…

Your’s wasn’t a joke, you were trying to get me banned on a technicality, despite it being obvious that I wasn’t serious, because you don’t like my opinions. Mine was obviously a joke. Your’s had intent behind it. Don’t try to backtrack now.

 

[me124704]

Your’s wasn’t a joke, you were trying to get me banned, because you don’t like my opinions. Mine was obviously a joke. Your’s had intent behind it. Don’t try to backtrack now.

You’re totally right…

 

[FuhQ]

You’re totally right…

Pathetic beta behavior.

 

[me124704]

Pathetic beta behavior.

I prefer master beta.

 

[USMCSGT0331]

Am I on ARFCOM or Sniper's Hide? Hard to tell these days.

 

[cuirc]

It’s a sarcastic joke dumbass.

But I know what you’re trying to do, and it won’t work.

Any reasonable person can tell he was joking in the context of as well as the substance the CMP is selling the rifle for a min of 11k they will probably get more I see the gentleman as complaining about the outrageous prices.
The facts really are because of this excessive democratic socialist inflation we see these type of prices for anything desirable hope Trump can turn it around

 

[Huskydriver]

I wonder if it's been tested for Copenhagen stains and black lighted for bodily fluids....

Whoever got any of my rifles I hope as hell you ripped that cheek piece off stat....

 

[Mister Ridge]

Am I on ARFCOM or Sniper's Hide? Hard to tell these days.

I was wondering if someone was drunk or hacked.

 

[Charger442]

I was wondering if someone was drunk or hacked.

is this your first experience with said user? this is par for the course.

 

[hlee]

I wonder if it's been tested for Copenhagen stains and black lighted for bodily fluids....

Whoever got any of my rifles I hope as hell you ripped that cheek piece off stat....

No I gotta ask a buddy if rubbing one out on your cheek piece is some sort of ninja sniper trick I’m blissfully unaware of.

 

[Redmanss]

No I gotta ask a buddy if rubbing one out on your cheek piece is some sort of ninja sniper trick I’m blissfully unaware of.

It's better odds than not that all those used Unertls were teabagged at one point or another three dozen.