"COLORADO DIGITAL COMMUNICATIONS ACT" SB21-132

[357Max]

@lowlight - Is this on your radar?

You've warned us shit like this was coming.
I need to gain access to that secret hand shake section! This is the worst steaming pile of legislation I've ever seen!

It's basically a Red Flag law for social media platforms operating in CO. An offended Snowflake could report the platform triggering investigations, subpoenas, directives, fines etc.

Not a post I wanted to make, but couldn't find mention of it.

If this were to pass it could end all future threads on Bigfoot, UFO's, MOA is best, Valdada's are reliable etc.

I don't think it will pass but this past year has delivered to many surprises to ignore it.

The article below summarizes.

https://thecoloradoherald.com/2021/...speech-with-criminal-charges-and-hefty-fines/

Full text of proposed Colorado senate bill SB21-132

https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2021A/bills/2021a_132_01.pdf

Few highlights I pulled out of the full text.

First you have to register your platform.

Then once dependent on them for yearly renewal aka license to operate. They get to tell you what acceptable speech is.

Then even if the platform prevails in the Commissions investigation; it clears the way for whistle blower snowflake to sue anyway (Bloomberg or Soros will provide the plaintiff lawyers).

Snipershide appears to fall well within there target.

It's a forum Red Flag Law essentially.

The definitions for the below are whatever they want them to be.

Hidden deep in the minutia, this gem.
Insert Gifford's, Every town, Moms need some action. Their already there I guarantee it. They will also have seats on the commission. It is through cancerous organizations like them, the seed money & Legal expertise comes from to write crap like this.

 

[Lowlight]

I am 100% sure they know I am here...

We are on a lot of their radars and I said numerous times they are lookin to punish us out of existence

I don't know how many other "States" have similar stuff on the books, but it's no accident it's here in CO as a test run.

 

[Maggot]

I only skimmed it but it looks pretty fucked up. Somebody on here gets its feelings hurt and runs to 'The Commission' for payback. With the left in power one might say:

"Coming to a theater near you."

 

[357Max]

I am 100% sure they know I am here...

We are on a lot of their radars and I said numerous times they are lookin to punish us out of existence

I don't know how many other "States" have similar stuff on the books, but it's no accident it's here in CO as a test run.

Pretty sure CO would be the first if this abomination were to pass. Thank God the SC is right leaning @ the moment cause I don't think this will pass constitutional scrutiny.

 

[Lowlight]

they have paid gangs that roam the internet looking for places like this to tell on

even .gov told me they have campaigns started against here calling in and "reporting" hurt feelings. They make up bullshit stories or dig insanely deep after doing a million summersaults to draw the conclusion you were being hateful towards them and we have a gun.

Tattle-tailing is an afternoon pastime for them, during tea

 

[357Max]

Considering the cancellation of Dr Seuss & Speedy, The target on this forum must be Yuge!

So what do I have to do to get into the secret squirrel forum? Just become a paid contributor or something else? Edit: I never really understood that when the changes happened. I was in for a while then out?

 

[Lowlight]

They are coming, Big Tech can't control us and that hurts, we have our servers split, our domains handled, our software is getting upgraded, TIGHT, so they need corruption to finish the job

 

[357Max]

They are coming, Big Tech can't control us and that hurts, we have our servers split, our domains handled, our software is getting upgraded, TIGHT, so they need corruption to finish the job

That's good to here & I had know doubt. Just didn't know if this one was on your radar.

7 P's

 

[Jgunner]

Interesting, guess i had not realized this had materialized completely. Its very sad to see the usa stooping to this level.

 

[ColinW]

Well, in order to give 'er a test run, I feel I should make an honest attempt to infuriate some Snowflakes.....*ahem* Here we go..


Vortex scopes are garbage.

 

[W54/XM-388]

Both sides can play the game.
The liberal sites are chuck full of hate.
Once they bring the law into it and not just their own "private" BS, then it's game on because you can force them to live under their own rules.
Pretty much one of the cornerstones of destroying your enemy.

If they want to shut us down, well we can play the same game and shut them down and see how fast we can get F451 into full effect.

 

[JbBooks]

Both sides can play the game.
The liberal sites are chuck full of hate.
Once they bring the law into it and not just their own "private" BS, then it's game on because you can force them to live under their own rules.
Pretty much one of the cornerstones of destroying your enemy.

If they want to shut us down, well we can play the same game and shut them down and see how fast we can get F451 into full effect.

That’s now this works, that’s now how any of this works!

 

[Jgunner]

Well, in order to give 'er a test run, I feel I should make an honest attempt to infuriate some Snowflakes.....*ahem* Here we go..


Vortex scopes are garbage.

Why do you have to hurt me so?! Thats it, i am reporting you!

 

[E-Tool]

Have lawyers at the ready? I’d pay extra to support this site.

 

[ColinW]

Why do you have to hurt me so?! Thats it, i am reporting you!

Now, now little gunner....It’s important to have the feelings that you are experiencing. Know that they are okay to have. I accept them.
.....
It is also important to know that anything besides a Vortex Razor gen II is only good for paper weight and nothing else.

 

[LeftyJason]

Now, now little gunner....It’s important to have the feelings that you are experiencing. Know that they are okay to have. I accept them.
.....
It is also important to know that anything besides a Vortex Razor gen II is only good for paper weight and nothing else.

Amg? Gen3 1-10?

 

[Doc68]

Now, now little gunner....It’s important to have the feelings that you are experiencing. Know that they are okay to have. I accept them.
.....
It is also important to know that anything besides a Vortex Razor gen II is only good for paper weight and nothing else.

Now you're just being plain mean......

Doc

 

[Strykervet]

At some point the law becomes intolerable and enough is enough...

Over regulation destroys any respect for the law.

Red flag... Only red flags I respect are chamber flags on the line.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Seems like A move to Montana or Idaho might be in order...

Or Iceland.

Sirhr

 

[tiNdvenTFHwMdqKW]

The other thing they will do is start pressuring banks and payment processors to not work with sites like this. You just have to look at sites like Parler and Gab to see the crap they are going through. SH is relatively small potatoes but at some point it will get hit by the spotlight.

 

[JMGlasgow]

Seems like A move to Montana or Idaho might be in order...

Or Iceland.

Sirhr

I think Wyoming would temporarily open to allow Frank to move here.

Montana and Idaho are becoming full of Californian's

 

[CoryT]

Perhaps the authors of the bill are unaware of Gitlow v. New York, which in 1925 incorporated the freedom of speech clause of the 1st Amendment. This attempt at a law is already null and void before it begins.

 

[Charger442]

Pretty sure CO would be the first if this abomination were to pass. Thank God the SC is right leaning @ the moment cause I don't think this will pass constitutional scrutiny.

The supreme court is quickly showing they arent going to do jack and shit if they "think" its controversial. They are seeing their roll as being a deflector of criticism by just neglecting to hear cases or kicking it back down and letting lower court rulings stand.

Comey Barrett and Kavanahaugh sided with the socialist in the state voting rights case, in as not to even hear it. The supreme court is a joke and its going to get much worse when Obiden gets to nominate two more here before 2024.

 

[LawnMM]

Scared Cunts Of The United States aren't coming to save you, nobody's coming to save you.

Us Vs Them and it always has been. I contributed to the SH legal defense fund the first time around, I'll contribute again.

Fuck em and all their acts of oppression disguised as targeting 'intolerance'

 

[Frgood]

This seems like a Pandora's Box of woe.
If I host a website in Florida, is this saying I'm liable for someone in Colorado reading it?

If so, then this will not scale globally to anything practical. I cannot be liable for every problem in the world and to try to enforce any laws as such is beyond human comprehension.

 

[MarinePMI]

The supreme court is quickly showing they arent going to do jack and shit if they "think" its controversial. They are seeing their roll as being a deflector of criticism by just neglecting to hear cases or kicking it back down and letting lower court rulings stand.

Comey Barrett and Kavanahaugh sided with the socialist in the state voting rights case, in as not to even hear it. The supreme court is a joke and its going to get much worse when Obiden gets to nominate two more here before 2024.

Meh. I can understand why they side stepped some of the recent voting right's cases. It was too political, and if they had a ruling that threw out the election results (tainted or not), then all hell would break loose, and they would be drug into the political arena.

Everyone wants to blame the SCOTUS, but in reality the fault lies with the Congress. They have not done their jobs legislatively, and have ceded too much power to the executive, so as not to have to answer to constituents at home.

I would argue that 95% of the problems we have in the US now, stem from the Congress not doing their jobs. Whether that be telling the public what the don't want to hear (the need to trim back public subsidy programs), or putting into law, policies that may be necessary but unpopular (immigration reform).

BLUF: Congress has lost its spine, and we are reaping what we have sown from our (the public) apathy towards them not doing their jobs (representing us), rather than just getting rich (in money and/or power) on the backs of the working class tax payers.

JMTCW...

 

[_Windrider_]

Perhaps the authors of the bill are unaware of Gitlow v. New York, which in 1925 incorporated the freedom of speech clause of the 1st Amendment. This attempt at a law is already null and void before it begins.

So is shall not be infringed.......but here we are. The courts are activists now. The are no longer a legal or judicial body.

 

[Choid]

Meh. I can understand why they side stepped some of the recent voting right's cases. It was too political, and if they had a ruling that threw out the election results (tainted or not), then all hell would break loose, and they would be drug into the political arena.

Everyone wants to blame the SCOTUS, but in reality the fault lies with the Congress. They have not done their jobs legislatively, and have ceded too much power to the executive, so as not to have to answer to constituents at home.

I would argue that 95% of the problems we have in the US now, stem from the Congress not doing their jobs. Whether that be telling the public what the don't want to hear (the need to trim back public subsidy programs), or putting into law, policies that may be necessary but unpopular (immigration reform).

BLUF: Congress has lost its spine, and we are reaping what we have sown from our (the public) apathy towards them not doing their jobs (representing us), rather than just getting rich (in money and/or power) on the backs of the working class tax payers.

JMTCW...

This is absolutely correct. I don't think there is any reason to extrapolate future decisions from the election decisions. For many reasons, etc, etc. I think that in all likelihood Trump's three appointments will be brilliant, with Kavanaugh the most iffy of the group.

Only other quibble is that maybe 80% is from congress not doing their jobs, and 20% is from congress doing their jobs too hard.

Otherwise, great post.

 

[MarinePMI]

Don't get me wrong, I think the election was stolen, and significant fraud occurred. That being said, once the momentum pushed the results to be "final", the die was cast. And going back would only create more problems, in spite of the recent elections being crooked as hell (IMHO).

 

[Choid]

Don't get me wrong, I think the election was stolen, and significant fraud occurred. That being said, once the momentum pushed the results to be "final", the die was cast. And going back would only create more problems, in spite of the recent elections being crooked as hell (IMHO).

I know you do, and that is fine. I think you are wrong, and that is fine too.

My reply was to highlight the two important points -- 1) That you cannot extrapolate future supreme court decisions from the election lawsuits based on the idea that the court is a team sport, and 2) That congress has abdicated its role, which has led to a lot of problems.

 

[7.62willdo]

So who exactly is “Doing their job”.......

 

[MarinePMI]

So who exactly is “Doing their job”.......

They have abdicated much of their job to the executive (ensuring that the Presidency is always partisan, vice looking out for all Americans' interests) and to the lower court judiciary's (re: the constant stays and injunctions issued by lower Federal court judges, that in effect interpret the law, rather than rule on the legality of the law).

I believe one of Trumps legacies will indeed be the impact he had in balancing the Federal courts again, by appointing so many originalist's versus the constructionist's.

 

[Choid]

They have abdicated much of their job to the executive (ensuring that the Presidency is always partisan, vice looking out for all Americans' interests) and to the lower court judiciary's (re: the constant stays and injunctions issued by lower Federal court judges, that in effect interpret the law, rather than rule on the legality of the law).

I believe one of Trumps legacies will indeed be the impact he had in balancing the Federal courts again, by appointing so many originalist's versus the constructionist's.

The reality is that all incentives are biased toward what has become of congress, so it is no surprise to see what has become of them.

I concur with your view of Trump's legacy. I think he willingness to stick behind Kavanaugh, and therefore not burn ACB who might have been the only confirmable judge when she came up, will prove to be one of the most significant strategic moves of the current era.

 

[Lowlight]

Trump's legacy will be letting career politicians completely screw us in his name,

everything will point back to Trump as they tear the Constitution apart in the name of .... fill in the blank.

He gave them a green light to dismiss 1/2 the country and break the entire system

 

[Choid]

Trump's legacy will be letting career politicians completely screw us in his name,

everything will point back to Trump as they tear the Constitution apart in the name of .... fill in the blank.

He gave them a green light to dismiss 1/2 the country and break the entire system

lol. probably that too. but we will see. I still think the juice was worth the squeeze, but we won't know for a while.

 

[Milo 2.5]

I think if we can tough it out for 4 yrs, enough will be sick of this shit. Covid relief has 100 billion in welfare relief, stupid fuck will end up opting for 50K debt forgiveness of student loans, gas will be 3.50 shortly in our area, which is usually low. This follow science concerning green energy philosophy is seriously flawed, hidden costs on this horizon have not begun to surface. You can't tell me 54% of the country wants this bullshit.
These douchebags are going to implode, repubs just need to find a common livable direction to follow, wont be easy, can be done.
At some point someone has to pay for this shit, and it wont be just us doing so.

 

[BytorJr]

I think if we can tough it out for 4 yrs, enough will be sick of this shit. Covid relief has 100 billion in welfare relief, stupid fuck will end up opting for 50K debt forgiveness of student loans, gas will be 3.50 shortly in our area, which is usually low. This follow science concerning green energy philosophy is seriously flawed, hidden costs on this horizon have not begun to surface. You can't tell me 54% of the country wants this bullshit.
These douchebags are going to implode, repubs just need to find a common livable direction to follow, wont be easy, can be done.
At some point someone has to pay for this shit, and it wont be just us doing so.

I applaud your optimism, which I do not share. Repubes couldn't organize (your favorite phrase here). They had 4 years of perfect opportunity and were too worried about maintaining status quo. They cannot sell their ideas - period. As a whole, the Pubic party is either illiterate and/or just flat out stupid.

Also, congress, both commie or pube controlled, has relinquished their responsibility to the Executive and Judicial branch. As such, the Judicial branch is functioning as a politburo. MAKING law and not determining Constitutionality of the law in question. Kavanaugh, as warned by Mark Levin EARLY (VERY EARLY ON) is a Trojan Horse and cannot be counted upon - think Roberts light. Only Gorsuch and maybe Barrett are the only 2 "new" judges that can be counted on. I'm now second guessing Barrett as some wishy washy individual with very little backbone and is going to be coerced by the fact she has a large family...aka a large exposure to subversives.

 

[Charger442]

Don't get me wrong, I think the election was stolen, and significant fraud occurred. That being said, once the momentum pushed the results to be "final", the die was cast. And going back would only create more problems, in spite of the recent elections being crooked as hell (IMHO).

I disagree with you on your assertion that the court case would have reversed anything. because it would not have. it would have likely done nothing more than to galvanize the fact that states CANNOT violate the US Constitution in the name of a pandemic by altering their election laws through executive action, backed by state court rulings. Thats what this case was always about. it was never about changing the outcome, because we have already seen that once they seated him, right, wrong, fraudulant, whatever, nothing would change by a court ruling.

If the SC wanted to avoid any election controversy ie changing vote totals, they could have ruled the correct way saying states cant modify their election laws unless its done through their duly elected legislators, but also said in their majority opinion, that they doubt these violations would have changed any state outcomes and therefore "no backsies".

what it would have also helped with was what is trucking towards us now with H.R. 1 and the completely unconstitutional federal mandates being pushed by congress to destroy our election laws as layed out by the Constitution.

Now, somehow, that HR 1 will become law and we'll have to live by it for 2 years while its fought all the way to the Supreme Court. and when its there, who the hell knows? By that time will Biden have been able to replace breyer and add two more justices to pack the courts? Thats what is really happening here. The Dems dont give a shit about the constitution. Theyre going to pass unconstitutional laws and then their socialist/communist allies on the court are going to uphold it.

Always remember, CJ John Roberts is not on the side of upholding the constitution. he has proven that several times. Pray for Alito and Thomas to have long, healthy lives with full mental acuity.

 

[Milo 2.5]

I applaud your optimism

Lol. not sure what it is, optimism may not be the correct word.
I would like an actual number what pct of US residents are dependent someway on the gov, not including SS. The agenda and narrative pushed are not sustainable, even they have to realize it.
Censoring communication is one step too far, add it to the list.

 

[Jonny_]

Meh. I can understand why they side stepped some of the recent voting right's cases. It was too political, and if they had a ruling that threw out the election results (tainted or not), then all hell would break loose, and they would be drug into the political arena.

Everyone wants to blame the SCOTUS, but in reality the fault lies with the Congress. They have not done their jobs legislatively, and have ceded too much power to the executive, so as not to have to answer to constituents at home.

While I completely agree that Congress has not done their job and the executive branch has been ceded too much power, isn't saying that it's acceptable for SCOTUS to ignore cases that are too political an abdication of their Check upon the other branches?

SCOTUS is essentially the final word* on constitutionality and if they choose to not hear cases that are too big/political they're ceding their power to the Legislature/Executive; I'd argue this is the greatest failure. The Founders knew that Congress and the President would attempt actions beyond their appointed power which is why they created Federalism.

*Barring 2A

Also just my two cents

 

[Rhino52]

While I completely agree that Congress has not done their job and the executive branch has been ceded too much power, isn't saying that it's acceptable for SCOTUS to ignore cases that are too political an abdication of their Check upon the other branches?

SCOTUS is essentially the final word* on constitutionality and if they choose to not hear cases that are too big/political they're ceding their power to the Legislature/Executive; I'd argue this is the greatest failure. The Founders knew that Congress and the President would attempt actions beyond their appointed power which is why they created Federalism.

*Barring 2A

Also just my two cents

^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^
SCOTUS has no business worrying about the political or social “fallout” of a case. That’s the Executive branches job. When you decide the merits of a case based on potential ramifications, you’re legislating from the bench. I’ll just add that it was Chief Justice Roberts who was doing the arm twisting on this decision to not hear the Texas lawsuit. Based on his performance as a supposedly “conservative” judge, one has to wonder what the libs have on him. Something to do with his visit(s) to Epstein island perhaps?

 

[MarinePMI]

While I completely agree that Congress has not done their job and the executive branch has been ceded too much power, isn't saying that it's acceptable for SCOTUS to ignore cases that are too political an abdication of their Check upon the other branches?

SCOTUS is essentially the final word* on constitutionality and if they choose to not hear cases that are too big/political they're ceding their power to the Legislature/Executive; I'd argue this is the greatest failure. The Founders knew that Congress and the President would attempt actions beyond their appointed power which is why they created Federalism.

*Barring 2A

Also just my two cents

I get where you're coming from, and how things should work. But then there is the reality of the imperfect world we live in...

As Marcus Aurelius said it best, "The purpose of life is not to be on the side of the right, but to avoid finding yourself within the ranks of the insane."

You can strive to judge absolute right and wrong, but making decisions that involve imperfect people as part of the equation, means that often times doing the "right" thing, can also be the insane decision, that leads nowhere productive.