Frank I realize that there are issues to address both with NRA certification and safety and being a game refuge. Obviously that will come into play. I don't think anyone is advocating we rent a backhoe and get this done this weekend. If you have knowledge/ideas about how to address these issues at CRC and get what we want why don't you contribute those? We aren't are all crazy hubcap shooters because we are willing to go without some amenities if it improves our chances our chances for this. That's great you have access to your own private range and Trigger Time's range whenever you want and can kiss off the CRC for anything but your videos and High Power targets. Not all of us have that luxury, to get a second, more expensive membership or drive up there every weekend or two to shoot. I do plan on shooting the Trigger Time monthly match if/when that gets going for non-members.
I came from Idaho where we DID have BLM land to go do this at. My range in Parma was very tactical/precision rifle friendly too. It's nicer/safer shooting on a private range set up properly in my experience. Here in CO, we both know the BLM land is not so easy to come by, and especially for long range shooting within an hour of southern Denver. Here everyone and their mother goes to the mountains and BLM land is not so easy to find where you can reach 1500+ safely without riders, or other hunters or plinkers being in the way.
As for my and others' attitude about bathrooms and shade awnings, from what the map looks like the silhouette bathrooms look pretty freaking close, at most a hundred yards? If we have a better chance of getting this approved without the amenities to start with I think most are ok walking/driving 30 seconds to take a dump. Safety is obviously going to be most important from the get-go.
First we need to get the CRC board to realize this is something a fairly large group of LR shooters/CRC members would like. I received an email from the previous VP that just stepped down, Jim Brummerstedt, seems like a nice guy. He stated the board was not aware of how many people have joined to shoot steel at CRC at 1000+. So thanks to those who have emailed the board, we obviously need to advocate more for ourselves. I do think it's a bit disingenuous of the board to claim they didn't know this was desired since it seems in every orientation people ask about steel on the High Power range and the fact that the Prairie Dog match is very popular.
It seems Mark's idea of putting it in-between the pistol berms to the east and the silhouette range to the west would be a more likely spot than other open spaces (for environmental impact reasons?). Yes, having a system and protocol in place to go cold on the silhouette range would need to be addressed. Also the quality of targets put up by members is a good point too, this may go into the "control" Mark brought up. Perhaps the log book could have a statement about AR400 or harder and proof of good targets be required for the waiver/lock-box access for this range. Education is key here, because done right things can be safe.
Afate generously volunteered his time and experience with graphic design for making signs to address the issue of where to place steel on the high power range. He also offered to create a diagram that could be emailed to the general membership or put on the website.
I appreciate everyone's efforts here, and Frank for giving us a place to organize and discuss these issues.
Hey I have a private range to use, I have steel out to 1500, and if I want I can go to Trigger Time's property and shoot anytime I want. They have ton of steel and ranges to 3000 yards...
If you want this to succeed, you have to meet a certain minimum standard. This isn't addressed to Mark but all the others who think they can just say, "Put a berm here" and it will get okayed.
if you don't like the reality of the situation don't play the game.
