Lots of good options in the AR world. Colt wouldn't be a contender on my list.
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I purchased an LE6920 OEM1 5 years ago and it was a good buy. I also have a S&W M&P 15 as well. Both are very good AR's. If you are just going to replace some of the parts, the OEM's are a good Buy for the name. I knew I was going to add my own For end, Stock and Grip so it made sense to get one, It was a purchase before Colt moved to CZ.Been eyeing The Colt le 6920 OEM 2 with no furniture.
I recently built a SHTF rifle and I thought, 2 is always better than one. I've never owned a Colt. Researching them for the past 2 weeks, all I'm finding is people talking about roll marks, and how they outsource parts.
I'm not really interested in a roll mark, or resale value, I've never sold a firearm, and never plan to. Are these new le6920 OEM2s something that you'd trust your life on? Are they still as reliable as the Colt of old? Just looking for some thoughts on them before I possibly scoop one up. Thanks!
Colts are still good. The outsourcing parts thing is BS. Theyre as good theyve ever been, just now theyre under the CZ unbrella. Probably the best AR you can get at that price, you can guarantee youre getting what a standard Army private is issued. As good as DD, Geissele, etc? No, but then those are a solid step up in price.This is what I'm hearing, but no one seems to have any evidence to back it up. They say things like that, and the post stops there. Can you expound? Why are they "has been"? Not trying to be a douche, I'm just trying to understand why people are now bashing them? I know they stopped selling to the public for awhile and when that happened I was pissed and said I'd never buy one, but no one can even give me a straight answer on why they stopped selling to the public?
Colt baby. I've got a 6920 LE it's the one weapon I'd grab if the STHF. But I've had mine for years. The newer ones are not made by Colt. I think they're Chinese. But I'm not sure of that. Roll marks are important here. If it's stamped LE then it's an older one that was made by Colt. If it's stamped something else it's a newer one that not made by Colt.
The new Colt is better than a PSA. Buy the Colt over the PSA or a smith MP15.The new colt is no different than buying a PSA. Buy the PSA or a smith MP15.
Colt is just a name of something that used to be until CZ brings them back. No different then Remington in the past years
Dude what are you talking about? A Colt is a Colt. It's assembled at Colt and the older LE you have also have outsourced parts in it. I'm looking for factual information, and hopefully no one who is looking for the same information I am, stumbles upon this thread. Please show me where they are made by Chinese.Colt baby. I've got a 6920 LE it's the one weapon I'd grab if the STHF. But I've had mine for years. The newer ones are not made by Colt. I think they're Chinese. But I'm not sure of that. Roll marks are important here. If it's stamped LE then it's an older one that was made by Colt. If it's stamped something else it's a newer one that not made by Colt.
The Colt AR-15 ,Armalite rifle name itself was owned by Colt from 1959 until the mid 2015's , their design patent expired in 1977 . They had military contracts , full squads outfitted with Colts, mainly the Marines until 2015. Colt focused on military contracts instead of civilian sales since around 1985.When their patent ran out and the military started using other manufacturers that has led to bankruptcy in the past and present. Colt stopped civilian sales several times from pressure by idiot advisers saying they would get sued and lose if someone used one in a mass shooting,etc. Remington got sued ,but decided to settle. They did not lose ,but was stupid in my opinion. So Colt quality. The modern rifle a civilian purchases is exactly the same the military uses except for the select fire control group and the extra hole for the sear. The guns just plain work . I have not even had a failure to eject in decades and I solely use reloads. The near bankruptcy Colts had some cosmetic flaws , trigger issues and that's about it. Colt has always outsourced some parts on the AR-15's so that isn't an issue if they are getting them from a good source and they are. The recent ones I've put my hands on have the cosmetic quality and no rattle when shook feel the guns always had. Shake your S&W m&p, it rattles the Colts don't. They are also full mil- spec design, thinner ,stream lined , light weight guns. My 6 are extremely accurate , 3-4 inch groups at 600 yards with handloads, 4-5 inch groups with quality military grade ammo.CZ now owns Colt, and "CZ Colt" is more trustworthy in my mind than "Colt Colt" in their final twelve years.
Buy one and enjoy.
I have one and it shoots bugholes with my handloads.I had one Colt Ar in the past. Competition HBar Match. That rifle shot baseball size groups at 100 yds, regardless of the ammo I ran through it. It did run ok, but since I bought a “match” rifle to compete with, I was very disappointed with it. Sold it during one of the AR ban scares and made a few dollars on it. People get all hung up on the Colt brand, and I’m still not sure why. Too many better options out there.
Mixed brass and Lapua brass for my really accurate loads, Hodgdon Varget or VV n540-24 gr., Hornady 75 grain hpbt match, Berger 77gr tac, Sierra 77gr MK , CCI primer. They all shoot the nearly the same- Berger is the most accurate,all of them shoot excellent in 6 different Colt riflesBeen eyeing The Colt le 6920 OEM 2 with no furniture.
I recently built a SHTF rifle and I thought, 2 is always better than one. I've never owned a Colt. Researching them for the past 2 weeks, all I'm finding is people talking about roll marks, and how they outsource parts.
I'm not really interested in a roll mark, or resale value, I've never sold a firearm, and never plan to. Are these new le6920 OEM2s something that you'd trust your life on? Are they still as reliable as the Colt of old? Just looking for some thoughts on them before I possibly scoop one up. Thanks!
Lol. Anything else you want to make up like the moon landing was in a warehouse studio too?non colt made parts, poor QC & non spec parts from springs to bolts, colt has, since loosing the TDP, began outsourcing LOTS of parts. many are substandard. I have all but stopped working on colts, NO PSA. my go to are Geselle, & DD using precision gauges, I have found a lot of out of spec problems in colts.
Mine too, regret selling it. Was a laserI have one and it shoots bugholes with my handloads.
Hes lying. Geiselle lpk is not tdp spec. Shows how much he knowsOut of curiosity, what do you check to verify a spring meets a certain spec?
Well Colt is now CZ USA....and as far as bashing ..never...I think there are better built rifles available some pricier and some not.. lay hands on a Stag or Spikes Tactical, I think building your own and knowing every part in your firearm the best way to goThis is what I'm hearing, but no one seems to have any evidence to back it up. They say things like that, and the post stops there. Can you expound? Why are they "has been"? Not trying to be a douche, I'm just trying to understand why people are now bashing them? I know they stopped selling to the public for awhile and when that happened I was pissed and said I'd never buy one, but no one can even give me a straight answer on why they stopped selling to the public?
They’re still the same Colt, just the roll marks are different. The CR6920 is just as legit as the LE.Colt baby. I've got a 6920 LE it's the one weapon I'd grab if the STHF. But I've had mine for years. The newer ones are not made by Colt. I think they're Chinese. But I'm not sure of that. Roll marks are important here. If it's stamped LE then it's an older one that was made by Colt. If it's stamped something else it's a newer one that not made by Colt.
I have a stag varminter that is a laser. I usually build all my ARs, starting with a stripped lower, but I'm in NY and those days (for now) are over. Cant even get a completed lower to my FFL. They won't accept them. It has to be an entire rifle. And come September 5tg you'll need a permit, which I'm not doing. Shit is so messed up, up here.Well Colt is now CZ USA....and as far as bashing ..never...I think there are better built rifles available some pricier and some not.. lay hands on a Stag or Spikes Tactical, I think building your own and knowing every part in your firearm the best way to go
I think he said he doesn't have many LMTs or rather only early ones that he had personally and that they buy Colts, PSA, etc due to cost. But you are right, he said the Colts hold amazingly wellWhat's interesting for the Daniel defense comparison is the guy who runs battlefield Vegas machine gun range said repeatedly in his ar15 thread that the colt 6920s actually lasted longer than the Daniel defense and lmt ARs, mostly relating to the bolts going longer before breaking. All three ran well, but the colt rifles lasted the longest before bolts broke.
Sure, a couple dozen or however many rifles could be a fluke or not statistically meaningful, but it is interesting for being an insane round count source that is not run and controlled by the government.
He does not appear to be biased either, and seemed surprised at some of the stuff he witnessed like AKs failing at a way higher rate than he previously thought. I don't think he expected the colts to last the longest of the ar15 rifles, either.
Every significant manufacturer in the US outsources production of some of the components, designed by them, that end up in their products.Been eyeing The Colt le 6920 OEM 2 with no furniture.
I recently built a SHTF rifle and I thought, 2 is always better than one. I've never owned a Colt. Researching them for the past 2 weeks, all I'm finding is people talking about roll marks, and how they outsource parts.
LOLnon colt made parts, poor QC & non spec parts from springs to bolts, colt has, since loosing the TDP, began outsourcing LOTS of parts. many are substandard. I have all but stopped working on colts, NO PSA. my go to are Geselle, & DD using precision gauges, I have found a lot of out of spec problems in colts.
The guns are 100% the same as the LE6920, with different cosmetic markings on the port side magwell. No difference in receivers, lower parts, barrel, BCG, buffer tube, stock, flash hider. It's Colt, rarely are 2 alike. No guarantees on markings unless photo verification or holding in your hands.
Hmm, do you have a page that lists S/Ns affected?All I run is Colts and have had zero issues from multiple different rifles for decades. Excellent accuracy and rock solid reliability. Do beware of some models sold in the early prefix CE near the bankruptcy. CZ did recall all models effected. The newest guns coming out look and feel Colt quality.