Re: Colt m4 style rifle?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smokey0118</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mar2012</div><div class="ubbcode-body">colts overrated imho. have had good luck with bushmaster,dpms,rockriver,and doublestar. </div></div>
colts are more expensive because they're "milspec" and have more quality control steps and use better materials than the cheap rifles suggested above. Other company's such as BCM, Larue, Daniel defense, spikes tactical and noveske also build to at least the same standards as colt. Here's some good qualities colts and BCM have....
Bolts:
*every bolt is MPI and HPT inspected
*Bolts are shot peened for better durability
*They have the black upgraded extractor spring insert for more reliable extraction
*The gas keys are properly staked on
*They use an m-16 style carrier, not a ar-15 style
barrels
*b-11595e standards met
*all barrels are hpt and MPI tested
*hard chromed chamber and bore
*barrels have 1/7 twist so they can stabilize longer projectiles
*5.56 chamber
*M4 style feed ramps
*F marked front sight base
*pinned on FSB
*finished under the FSB
Lower
*1.14 extension dia
*staked castle nut
*heavy buffer
budget rifles like bushmaster(who's quality has been tanking recently), RRA, and especially dpms sacrifice the above build quality standards in order to produce a rifle for cheaper.
SPikes are some of the better values out there now at about $850-900 for a full milspec rifle. BCM is generally known as the best quality for money spent. Colts are pretty much the industry standard and will retain resale value...making them an instant win if he buys one.
Mentioned above was the fact that some company's like bcm are making "milspec" rifles, but with a mid-length gas system. Mid-length is the best gas system for a 14.5-16" barrel length. It reduces wear, recoil and allows mounting of bayos...which is kickass. </div></div>
Seriously Smokey your post soumds like the Bullshit you find on M4carbine, lightfighter, arfcom et al. Just because all these companies piss away precious time, manhours, and resources on NDE doesn't mean shit. If their production methods are so fucked up that they need to inspect every single fucking component rolling off the assembly line, then the cure to is to fix their fucked up production, and inspection regimen to decrease production costs and maximize profits.
However, through the genius of marketing, these companies have successfully convinced a lot of fanboys that this is a "good" thing rather than a sign of weak production/inspection methods and flawed buisness model...its not for nothing that Bushmaster, DPMS, and RRA sell more rifles than all of the companies mentioned...we'll c how many of them are around in a few years, and how much market share they command.
If you think that all the reasons you listed mean anything, you should google "issues with "put name of your chosen awesome over-priced rifle maker" and you will find that their rifles suffer from exactly the same issues as DPMS, RRA, Bushmaster, armalite etc. And given the fact they they have a far smaller market share, they probably have the same reliability rate as all the rest of the cheaper rifle makers.
This post isnt meant as a personal attack, but rather for people to re-evaluate what they think they are paying for and what constitutes "quality".
