Correct position vs. marksmanship fundamentals

[Cascade Precision]

So, as I am looking at SHLowlights videos on youtube, I see that they mention sometimes you just can not get that perfect position. I am not a sniper, just like to shoot. I see no reason why I will be in a rubble filled room with a ladder, table, and a window I have to shoot through.

That said, in the hunting field, you can not always find that perfect position either. So that begs my question: Which is more important while training? Learning to apply marksmanship fundamentals or getting into that perfect prone/sitting/squatting/whatever position?

Here is the video I am referring to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndc_NVGEt24&feature=player_profilepage
(i hope that is right...)

 

[LoneWolfUSMC]

Re: Correct position vs. marksmanship fundamentals

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ogreshooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So that begs my question: Which is more important while training? Learning to apply marksmanship fundamentals or getting into that perfect prone/sitting/squatting/whatever position?</div></div>

Much like when the body looses one sense, the others have to be more keen to compensate. The fundamentals work the same way. If you have to shoot from a less than ideal position, you will have to concentrate more on breathing, trigger, follow through, etc.

Now when you are learning, you need to get into those perfect positions. You need to apply the fundamentals EXACTLY. That way later on when you have to sacrifice one you have practiced the other so perfectly that you don't really have to concentrate.

 

[kraigWY]

Re: Correct position vs. marksmanship fundamentals

Marksmanship fundamentals are used regardless of shooting positions. Wierd, field or hunting positions will be improved with proper marksmanship fundamentals.

Regardless of the type of shooting you do.

Example, if you go to the CMP web site, you can get DVDs put out by the CMP/AMU on Service Rifle Shooting, Desinated Marksmanship, and Close Quarter Combat. All three are a bit differant styles of rifle shooting, but all three stress the basic marksmanship fundamentals,

THEY DON'T CHANGE.

Go further, grab the USAMU International Rifle Guide, Differant all together, but the same Fundamentals are there. Heck attend a GSM Clinic, even the CMP GSM Vintage Military rifle, using pre-1950 rifles still stress the same marksmanship fundamentals.

They work at the rifle range and they work in the field chasing critters.

 

[lroseen]

Re: Correct position vs. marksmanship fundamentals

Your position is part of your fundamentals(Breath control, Trigger squeeze, sight alignment....and steady position) make any sense? However especially in alternate positions one position may work for one when it doesn't for another so the importance of the specific position is not always that it is "proper" according to "said expert" as much as it is important to properly apply certain principles of any position you use. Making any position steady and thinking about how to place your body in that specific style of position for recoil management are more important than if you look the same in a said position than the next guy. I hope that makes sense. However I would say that if your new to shooting and someone is well versed in different positions try apply what they can teach you rather than learn your own. Their is usually a method to the madness.

 

[azdead]

Re: Correct position vs. marksmanship fundamentals

Both. But get the fundamentals down. If you dont have them, who cares what position youre in?