Has anyone found a way to send ejected brass to the rear more? I don't know if shortening the mechanical ejector somehow change the throw of the brass? Anywhere from 3-5 O'clock would be nice.
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That was me. I did the first cut attempt on the new ejector. Shortened very slightly and angled it a little to hit outside edge of rim. Unfortunatly that resulted in no noticeable change. Still get 2:00 ejection. I’ll try another cut soon.They was a guy in the main CDG thread with same issue that replied to me regarding this, that order another ejector and was going to tweak it to see if he could improve the direction of the brass but haven’t heard from him
Not hitting receiver, it gets launched by ejector. Might have more to do with how the extractor releases it.Is the brass bouncing off the side of the receiver or is it slipping off the extractor and getting launched by the ejector?
Do a lil Google foo on how a mechanical blade ejectors work, and try that again.......I don't have one of these actions so I'm just going off of what I've experienced with other brands.
It seems the extractor needs to hold onto the rim of the case long enough for the angular momentum to carry it out the ejection port. At least in the 3:00 direction.
Take the bolt out and hook a fired case under the extractor and rotate it so that the base of the case is against the bolt face. Now you van try just releasing the case to see what it does or slowly letting the case rotate.
That's what I'm thinking. Extractor under spring tension applying consistent inward lateral pressure throughout the ejection arc. Basically extractor is pushing the case slightly back in as the ejector pushes the case over the breakover angle and the result is a outward and forward ejection.Not hitting receiver, it gets launched by ejector. Might have more to do with how the extractor releases it.
It has a (high rate) coil spring powered extractor unlike Ted's previous actions. You should be able to see the spring in the bolt head as it's partially exposed. The choice of the high rate spring is what leads me to believe it's extractor spring related.The CDG doesn’t have a traditional coiled spring powered extractor. It’s a metal leaf spring type.
I missed this. I’d say 2:00-2:30 shooting 22GT.Where does your go? Does it change with bolt speed? Mine goes to ~4:00 if i recall.
Thanks.I missed this. I’d say 2:00-2:30 shooting 22GT.
Id call mine 2:30 to 3:00. Checked it this morning a bunch of times.I missed this. I’d say 2:00-2:30 shooting 22GT.
Same issue with me running 22BR. Spent brass 2-230 and dummy rounds 3-330 where they should be.Playing with my CDG I have two ejection patterns with 22 GT brass when running the bolt back quickly:
Spent brass mostly ejects at 2:30 with the occasional 2:00 O'Clock
Dummy rounds mostly eject at 3:30 with the occasional 3:00
We shall see during the match tomorrow what happens in real world situations.
I thought they had? Isn’t there a new design ejector that’s been coming in all the recent actions?Wish they would come out with a fix
That’s a new extractor AFAIK.I thought they had? Isn’t there a new design ejector that’s been coming in all the recent actions?
Do you mean @Praeger’s is the new one?That’s a new extractor AFAIK.
Ejector vs. extractor.Do you mean @Praeger’s is the new one?
i haven't been following at all. Only remembered some talk of one or both parts being new.Ejector vs. extractor.
From memory, assuming it’s correct, extractors on the magnum and Lapua bolt heads were replaced on newer releases to eliminate the possibility that heavy recoiling rounds would displace the ball and spring and cause extraction issues.i haven't been following at all. Only remembered some talk of one or both parts being new.
The extractor was updated. No updates that I'm aware of to the ejector.Do you mean @Praeger’s is the new one?
I got new extractors for all of my bolt heads 223 and up. I think you’re correct on the reason though.From memory, assuming it’s correct, extractors on the magnum and Lapua bolt heads were replaced on newer releases to eliminate the possibility that heavy recoiling rounds would displace the ball and spring and cause extraction issues.
I got new extractors for all of my bolt heads 223 and up. I think you’re correct on the reason though.
I wish I could upload the video, but you are correct in that as soon as the ejector blade pushes the left side of the case the entire case spins (mostly in the open ejection port) until the neck strikes the bolt head. When the case begins to spin, the right side that is captured by the extractor during the extraction, spins out of the extractor's control - it does not pivot on the extractor. My first experience with a mechanical ejector so no frame of reference if this is common to mechanical ejectors.The frame-by-frame (much thanks @Praeger) makes it look to me like the extractor is letting go early; the case head starts moving away from the ejection port (clearly coming out from under the extractor), so the case spins inside the action. I'd rather see it more like a door hinge: the case pivots around the extractor, then lets go only after the case center of mass is out of the action and traveling rearward.
I'd have to compare against another action with a fixed ejector and see what that slo-mo looks like, but that's the picture in my head.