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Cross-Fit

Re: Cross-Fit

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RayDog</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The risk of injury can be limited greatly by self control.
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I agree with you 100% however, the rub is that Crossfit contously pushes all the hype. So why pay a gym that constantly pushes overhyped ill programmed workouts only to have to exert self control to diminish the impending injuries.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smokshwn</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RayDog</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The risk of injury can be limited greatly by self control.
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I agree with you 100% however, the rub is that Crossfit contously pushes all the hype. So why pay a gym that constantly pushes overhyped ill programmed workouts only to have to exert self control to diminish the impending injuries. </div></div>

I think you've mistaken RayDog and the premise of cross fit. In CF you partake in a wide variety of exercises but always at your level of competency - although nearer (not at) the limit rather than comfort zone. You will do clean&jerks but at a weight that is under your control for example. You apply self control in the manner of common sense, not restraint that leads to lack of progression. theres nothing ill programmed about cross fit. There is no real program just WOD.

I don't much like gyms or crowds so i workout at home. for me, dumbbells, a barbell and a bunch of kettle bells do fine. throw in my rower and a jump rope and I've got cardio up the ying yang.

I should do chins though... if i could...lol!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EventHorizon</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smokshwn</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RayDog</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The risk of injury can be limited greatly by self control.
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I agree with you 100% however, the rub is that Crossfit contously pushes all the hype. So why pay a gym that constantly pushes overhyped ill programmed workouts only to have to exert self control to diminish the impending injuries. </div></div>

I think you've mistaken RayDog and the premise of cross fit. In CF you partake in a wide variety of exercises but always at your level of competency - although nearer (not at) the limit rather than comfort zone. You will do clean&jerks but at a weight that is under your control for example. You apply self control in the manner of common sense, not restraint that leads to lack of progression. theres nothing ill programmed about cross fit. There is no real program just WOD.

I don't much like gyms or crowds so i workout at home. for me, dumbbells, a barbell and a bunch of kettle bells do fine. throw in my rower and a jump rope and I've got cardio up the ying yang.

I should do chins though... if i could...lol! </div></div>

I wasn't actively targeting Raydog just posing the question as it was his quote.

Actually I am fairly familiar with crossfit and the atmosphere at many of it's gyms. The encouragement of Pukey the Clown and Uncle Rhabdo are clear symbols that Crossfit is at best very conflicted between preaching personal restraint and encouraging outright stupidity.

With respect to bad programming, there are several examples. I don't know all the names but... 30 reps of snatches? If you are using a heavy enough weight to properly train the snatch then it is far too heavy to be doing 30 reps (endurance range), Doing max deadlifts at the end of a workout involving four 400 meter sprints...so your posterior chain is neurologically burnt and you should then try for a personal best deadlift? there are many many more but you get the idea. When doing olympic lifts that are very taxing neurologically it is very dangerous to involve high repetition even with low weight as the diminished neurological function can easily degenerate form to injurious levels.

At any rate, I am not a CF hater, just more realistic about the info. But I do recognize and find it disconcerting that CF koolaid drinkers ( and Greg Glassman ) almost always refuses to recognize any limitation and immediately demonize the ones who point them out.
 
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CrossFit is now, officially, kicking my ass.
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EventHorizon covered it pretty well.
I'm 42 years old weigh 155 can dead lift 400 and will run, hike, ride, row with the best of them thanks to CF. I have days I feel great and go in there and leave it all in the gym. Other days I'll have to take the WOD at 90% as to not injure myself. I still get a great workout.
I think CF is very good for most if they just show up and do it.
 
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I did my first CF session today. I am a distance runner and stopped running the past few months. My cardio went out the window as I found out today.
Before going to the class I was nervous as hell with the stuff I read online involving the type of workout, reps, etc. Everything was tailored to my fitness/skill level today. The hour and a half I spent in the gym was an ass kicker but damn do I feel good. It's a good kind of soreness. I'm going back for more.
I know there's a lot of opposition to CF but the only way you'll know if you hate it or not is to try it. I'm hooked.
 
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In the group workouts I'm posting times about on par with the twenty year old girls in the class.
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Of course, at my age if I can hang with twenty year old girls when doing anything I'll call that a victory.
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Hit my third session today and did the Elizabeth. Holy shit my arms are smoked.

How many times are you guys going per week? I'm only doing 2x right now. Might bump it up to 3 next month.
 
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3x per week. I would like to do 4x, but I am making sure to be fully recovered between sessions and not sore when I go for the next one. That way I don't injure myself on deadlifts and pullups.
 
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I'm back to 4x, after slowly working up from taking 3 months off with a knee problem. Scaled significantly, of course, but that's the beauty of it. The coaches know when to back you off if you don't do it yourself, and every workout is scalable. I love it.
 
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3x definitely sounds fine in my book with running on the off days. Surprisingly I'm not that sore right now. My quads are a little sore but that's about it.