Crown appears to have been destroyed by "gunsmith"

[Mississippi-tacA1]

It's not really a "know better" situation it's more of a how to make it work situation. People thread undersized barrels and make them work, just not my personal preference. I have a rifle I want to eventually cut down and thread and as soon as it's cut the muzzle OD will be .650" as well ... so I'll be facing the same issue eventually.

The main problem with not having a "proper" shoulder is there isn't much to square the suppressor on.

Class 3 machining in Dallas is a place I trust. If you give him a .650 barrel to thread 5/8x24 he will thread it if you really want him to but "no warranty".

I'm pretty sure you don't need to worry about warranty.

My biggest worry at this point would be cocentricity or whether or not the threads are accurately aligned with the path of the bore.

Getting that barrel recrowned would be the least of my worries but one of my biggest annoyances.

This is one solution for threading a thin barrel. When I'm ready to thread that thin barrel of mine I'll be trying to find someone who can do this.

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Nice info! I see now about the shoulder issue.

 

[MK20]

Call Karl Feldkamp of Kampfeld customs. He is a solid and reputable guy and will probably do it for you. You will have to send the rifle out.

 

[Threadcutter308]

Call Karl Feldkamp of Kampfeld customs. He is a solid and reputable guy and will probably do it for you. You will have to send the rifle out.

I'll be glad to vouch for Karl, he fluted some barrels for me. Did a good job, no suprises. Nice guy, lives in/around Sandpoint Idaho.

 

[Haney]

Hey y'all this is my first post unfortunately. I was about to mount a Razor Gen II 3-18 I just bought off of @xxflyingturtlexx (great condition and nice packaging btw no issue there), on a bergara b14 hunter .300wm that I had the barrel threaded by someone in MS who seems to be a wannabe gunsmith. I am attaching pics to show the damage caused to my crown. I ran a qtip inside the barrel and the burred edges were so sharp it cut the qtip in half! Glad I didn't start shooting...

Unfortunately the man would not back up his work so I am going to take it to someone who is competent. Let this be a warning to those are considering taking their property to an unknown smith. I learned my lesson the hard way..

Do you have proof this guy you are slandering did the job ?

 

[Mississippi-tacA1]

Call Karl Feldkamp of Kampfeld customs. He is a solid and reputable guy and will probably do it for you. You will have to send the rifle out.

Thanks!

 

[Mississippi-tacA1]

Do you have proof this guy you are slandering did the job ?

Yes a witness and a receipt. Not sure why you asked that

 

[larryh128]

Yes a witness and a receipt. Not sure why you asked that

Check out Manson, he makes a hand crowner that will cure your issue. Actually works good if you are in a hurry also.

 

[JBoomhauer]

Do you have proof this guy you are slandering did the job ?

Nothing here leads me to believe OP is making false statements.

 

[Mississippi-tacA1]

If this is accurate it looks like maybe the ones that could be threaded came that way.

I'm guessing less than 0.750" OD at the muzzle but it really is hard to tell from the blurry pics whether the shoulder is wider than the protector.

https://www.bergara.online/us/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2021/04/B14-Barrel-Dimensions1.pdf

There’s no protector on it. Pics look good on my end.

 

[cas6969]

Lol wtf, did he do that crown job with a power drill?

I've done several that way, they never looked anywhere close to that bad.

 

[msgriff]

Mostly a recap of what others have posted:
Not enough of a shoulder for a suppressor mount. Post #50 by @doubloon covers some good solutions, but I would not fudge the minimum shoulder dimension with a 300WM suppressor. Another option might be a MD which indexes off the crown instead of the shoulder, I don't know if the YHM is suitable. Watch your minimum barrel length for a 300WM with a suppressor, for the YHM can it's 20".
If you haven't already ordered the suppressor and these solutions are beyond your budget, chamfering the crown and throwing on a thread protector would be the cheapest option. A T-handle chamfering tool with a pilot is OK, but you can mess up the bore if used incorrectly.

 

[Mississippi-tacA1]

Mostly a recap of what others have posted:
Not enough of a shoulder for a suppressor mount. Post #50 by @doubloon covers some good solutions, but I would not fudge the minimum shoulder dimension with a 300WM suppressor. Another option might be a MD which indexes off the crown instead of the shoulder, I don't know if the YHM is suitable. Watch your minimum barrel length for a 300WM with a suppressor, for the YHM can it's 20".
If you haven't already ordered the suppressor and these solutions are beyond your budget, chamfering the crown and throwing on a thread protector would be the cheapest option. A T-handle chamfering tool with a pilot is OK, but you can mess up the bore if used incorrectly.

That’s great feedback. Good point about minimum barrel length.

 

[Mississippi-tacA1]

That’s great feedback. Good point about minimum barrel length.

Mostly a recap of what others have posted:
Not enough of a shoulder for a suppressor mount. Post #50 by @doubloon covers some good solutions, but I would not fudge the minimum shoulder dimension with a 300WM suppressor. Another option might be a MD which indexes off the crown instead of the shoulder, I don't know if the YHM is suitable. Watch your minimum barrel length for a 300WM with a suppressor, for the YHM can it's 20".
If you haven't already ordered the suppressor and these solutions are beyond your budget, chamfering the crown and throwing on a thread protector would be the cheapest option. A T-handle chamfering tool with a pilot is OK, but you can mess up the bore if used incorrectly.

It’s sitting at 23.25” rn so I have room to work

 

[doubloon]

There’s no protector on it. Pics look good on my end.

Then there may have been some compression on upload, below is what I see. Also that donut around the outside looked like a really thin protector to me from the forward angle ... that's why I couldn't decide if you had a .650" or .700" barrel profile.

The point from @msgriff about muzzle indexing is a good one I usually forget about because I don't think it's an option for my old Liberty Freedom.

I wouldn't shoot it suppressed as is but I wouldn't have any fear of seeing what it does at 100 yds unsuppressed. But if all you have is hunting ammo that could be an expensive experiment with little value. I've seen some pretty nasty muzzles that shoot just fine. Then there's this guy who cut a barrel at less than 90 degrees with a grinder and still got ~MOA average groups.

Do rifle crowns matter? Does a crown affect accuracy? I find out with the help of my grinder…

Do rifle crowns matter? Does a crown affect accuracy? I think most of use would say yes. It seems intuitive that the crown, the last part of the rifle that touches the bullet before it leaves the…

rifleshooter.com

 

[BCP]

Lol wtf, did he do that crown job with a power drill?

If he did it would look better.

 

[moosemeat]

Do you have a in focus pic of the threads from the front and side?
LRI in SD can fix that for you.

 

[supercorndogs]

I am glad you stopped before you had a baffle strike in your suppressor. I am sure the places mentioned can explain what you need to get enough shoulder for s suppressor on that barrel. A lot need around .720-.750 at the muzzle.

 

[hafejd30]

If you decide to mail it out I highly recommend LRI

 

[GIXXER2000]

That was shit workmanship!! Don't know any smith I use would let that shit job out of his shop!!!

 

[MikeRTacOps]

Seriously? I just put my glasses on backwards and walked into myself after see that bullshit. FK me ,when you think you've seen it all this kinda shit pops up...

Pm me maybe I can do you a solid

Mike R

 

[hafejd30]

Seriously? I just put my glasses on backwards and walked into myself after see that bullshit. FK me ,when you think you've seen it all this kinda shit pops up...

Pm me maybe I can do you a solid

Mike R

Op,

You have one of the best reaching out here

 

[moosemeat]

Seriously? I just put my glasses on backwards and walked into myself after see that bullshit. FK me ,when you think you've seen it all this kinda shit pops up...

Pm me maybe I can do you a solid

Mike R

Do that. Do that now.

 

[moosemeat]

I hope you reached out to Mike. One of the best gunsmiths and craftsman in the nation. Golden opportunity.

 

[Rocketmandb]

Not sure why you asked that

Likely because he is a complete and utter tool.

 

[Mississippi-tacA1]

Do you have a in focus pic of the threads from the front and side?
LRI in SD can fix that for you.

 

[Mississippi-tacA1]

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May not be clear enough but I think this gives a good illustration of the threads

 

[JBoomhauer]

Try tapping on the screen where the threads are before taking the photo. The camera will focus on the tapped area. Might help with the clarity.

 

[Mississippi-tacA1]

Try tapping on the screen where the threads are before taking the photo. The camera will focus on the tapped area. Might help with the clarity.

Just part of the same group of photos. I’ll try again after work

 

[vh20]

Try tapping on the screen where the threads are before taking the photo. The camera will focus on the tapped area. Might help with the clarity.

Yeah, the camera is focused on the table in the background, not the barrel.

 

[Im2bent]

What are you guys bitching about that last photo clearly shows a shoulder that's at least .005 thick.

 

[Mississippi-tacA1]

My dog couldn’t believe it either…

 

[doubloon]

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That's better than the first one for me.

It's easier to make out the "shoulder" and that donut on the end which I thought was a protector looks a lot more like thread runout lipping over the end of the muzzle

 

[Mississippi-tacA1]

 

[TheOfficeT-Rex]

Wow. Not sure which is better, the crown, the threads, or that shoulder.

On the plus side, when you have that cut off you might have enough meat for a proper shoulder for the can or brake.

 

[msgriff]

 

[JBoomhauer]

 

[hafejd30]

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Holy fuck!!! It looked better blurry

 

[doubloon]

eye bane

I actually like the other pictures better now.

ETA: dangit @hafejd30 beat me to it

 

[redneckbmxer24]

I would file a lawsuit against that fuck.

 

[supercorndogs]

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I seen some bad ones, but got me beat. Holy shit. I can see why you didn't screw a can on it. makes some of the shitty threads I have seen lately look downright respectable.

It's bullshit. You should be out enjoying it instead of having some dickwadgunplumer screw it up for you. I bet 20 bucks just like posted above. That goof ball threaded your barrel with die.

All the more reasons to have extra barrels and the tools to attach and remove them.

 

[hafejd30]

Just fyi I’m a self taught gunsmith. Just ordered all the stuff to shorten that up and thread it for you. Guaranteed to sammich specs. What’s optimal for a 300 anyways….? Like 16” right?

Just send me the barrel. Just to help me out mark which end you need cut and threaded in case I’m drinking when I do it

FYI it will still look better when I’m finished

The DYI gunsmith kit is ordered

 

[JBoomhauer]

Just fyi I’m a self taught gunsmith. Just ordered all the stuff to shorten that up and thread it for you. Guaranteed to sammich specs. What’s optimal for a 300 anyways….? Like 16” right?

Just send me the barrel. Just to help me out mark which end you need cut and threaded in case I’m drinking when I do it

FYI it will still look better when I’m finished

The DYI gunsmith kit is ordered
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Where can I find you on “The facebooks”

 

[Rocketmandb]

My dog couldn’t believe it either…

My dog is highly skeptical.

 

[hafejd30]

My dog is highly skeptical.
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Mines rather excited to see how it shoots

 

[hafejd30]

Where can I find you on “The facebooks”

I spend most of my time in the farm equipment repair pages. But hit the gunsmith pages when truly needed

 

[Expert684]

Where can I find you on “The facebooks”

Look him up: FUBAR!

 

[Expert684]

Just fyi I’m a self taught gunsmith. Just ordered all the stuff to shorten that up and thread it for you. Guaranteed to sammich specs. What’s optimal for a 300 anyways….? Like 16” right?

Just send me the barrel. Just to help me out mark which end you need cut and threaded in case I’m drinking when I do it

FYI it will still look better when I’m finished

The DYI gunsmith kit is ordered
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Mine didn’t come with the Sharpie, I got the advanced kit:

 

[Baron23]

Holy cow…there is no shoulder. It just sort of angles up to to the OD.

Wow

 

[Mississippi-tacA1]

Mines rather excited to see how it shoots
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Be patient good boy, I know labs don’t like fireworks

 

[JBoomhauer]

Holy cow…there is no shoulder. It just sort of angles up to to the OD.

Wow

Thats the newest machine turned taper mount. Sub .0001 concentricity. URGILOVERR checked it himself.