And my local gun store sends vortex back at 10x the rate he does anything else. (Diamondback and strike eagle)
He wouldn't sell them if not for the fact that the customers ask for them.
The crazy thing with Leupold is the warranty. The shop will tear down a scope from the 70s, fix it, reseal it, purge it, and send it back without question.
You ain't offending me... I know most all Vortex optics short of the Razor line are hot garbage. I still own quite a few, but that doesn't mean they're not still old, outdated, or janky. I bought them when I was a Poor who didn't know any better. Give me a break. At least I can admit my error.
I've stated many times that same statement above about their lower-lines being trash scopes (VX1,2,3), BUT, I've also always stated that their warranty and CS was always exceptional and beyond. We had one customer come in with an EARLY Leupold (like first variable models they ever made old), and it was in ROUGH shape. They told us to send it back to them and they'd get it straightened out. They put new updated custom-cut glass in it (since they didn't have any to fit that size), fixed all the dings, refinished it in the miles-deep gloss black, and polished the scope body and gold ring and everything, with all new seals, o-rings, erector sets (internally) etc... It was a brand new scope in the old body. They even sent back a handwritten note with it thanking him for being one of their longest customers and having the privilege to refurbish one of their oldest model scopes. I always thought that was pretty cool.
I'll never take away them being a good company, just that their scopes (even the newest models) are still kind of old-school internally and fragile due to the lightweight nature of them. We all know about the shitshow the MK-IV was. It is what it proved itself to be. And yes, my Kahles Helia KX is fragile... So are Swarovskis. So are any lightweight hunting scopes. The toughest lightweight hunting scopes I've seen are Zeiss. But that's neither hear, nor there. IMO, Leupold just does not do proper "tactical" scopes very well. They're hunting scopes, as far as I'm concerned. Nothing wrong with that, they do that well in the upper-end lines, but sometimes it's best to stay in your lane, you know? That's why I always steer folks away, if they want one for tactical, comps, or HD use.