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What would a swept handle look like? I try to google it but they all look like bolt knobs to me.
Will, I actually don't mind the handle as it is at all. I think it naturally falls perfectly into the fatty part of my finger where I like to run the bolt and upon dropping the bolt my hand simply drops down into the firing position rather than forward and down. Minor details...
Gents,
We appreciate your feedback, and welcome your candid comments. A few months ago we introduced the Axiom, which has been a four year venture for us. Since then, we have made suttle refinements, and will continue to do so as we move forward. One of the improvements we made was to the DLC treatment. Chase and I have been running full DLC actions in a few NALRSA matches in TX. While extremely satisfied with the function, we noticed some premature wear. We immediately met with the engineers and developed a proprietary treatment which consists of a titanium substrate, C12 Titankote, then a Tribo-Kote Sx topcoat. Application of this treatment has a coefficient of friction of .01. This took the basic C12 to a new level. We feel you'll be extremely satisfied with it.
To answer a few questions in this thread... We will be offering a left hand action as production allows. We also offer complete satisfaction with the action, or we will refund your money, period. If you're not happy with it, please contact us so we can understand your concerns. We will refund your money as long as you return the action in new condition.
The Axiom is the first of a few actions we've developed. The Vector will follow as well as our Helix, and Halo actions. They are the Lapua and .408 actions respectively.
We feel privileged to have a few top level shooters using our products. We appreciate the patience of those who have been eagerly awaiting these actions. We pride ourselves on customer service. If you call us, and don't get an answer, please leave a message we will call you back.
We are committed to our customer base, as we share the same passion as you do for our sport.
That looks really nice! BTW, what did you get for dropsies, MV, and DA?
The brass is hitting the scope turret. My rings are a little too low and I've got a higher set up coming. Its never caused any problems and it ran perfect in a match last weekend. It will fling the empties, no worries.
Anyone know how the bolt lift effort on these actions compare to say a Bighorn or Defiance?
The Bighorn is a fine action and everyone has their preference. I'm curious why you prefer the Bighorn over the Axiom in regards to smithing rifles? I build my own too and I thought the Axiom tenon was as easy to make as anything out there.I have both axiom and tl3. TL3 is lightyear lighter than axiom, and quite smoother too. But my axiom action is not DLC coated just the bolt. When I look at them together, I prefer TL3 over axiom, esp on barrel availability as I smith my own rifles. I think axiom has unnecessary strong main spring, can someone validate the power with Curtis?
The Bighorn is a fine action and everyone has their preference. I'm curious why you prefer the Bighorn over the Axiom in regards to smithing rifles? I build my own too and I thought the Axiom tenon was as easy to make as anything out there.
I dont have my own lathe, so prefit or short chambered barrels are my preferred option. It sucks that Axiom cant use remage or short chambered barrels, while TL3 has so many options, barrel wise. Another thing I dont like, is how short the engaged threaded tenon is on Axiom.
Of course it's personal preference...I bet Axiom will work just great after built, I'm just debating if I should go down the path with my current reservations, even with the action in hand.
Please explain to me why a prefit cannot be used with the axiom.
I have both axiom and tl3. TL3 is lightyear lighter than axiom, and quite smoother too. But my axiom action is not DLC coated just the bolt. When I look at them together, I prefer TL3 over axiom, esp on barrel availability as I smith my own rifles. I think axiom has unnecessary strong main spring, can someone validate the power with Curtis?
whats the actual weight difference? Doesn't seem like it could be much. I've felt both actions and even with just bolt dlc it is by far the smoothest action out there. Also the 60 deg vs 90 is a huge advantage of the Curtis not to mention $300+ cheaper. IMO you can't buy a better action for the price.
I dont know how to measure the weight, but if I may, I'd say Axiom is twice as heavy as TL3, in my case at least. It's heavy and snap to an extent that I'm worried about my sight view during match. I've decided to sell my Axiom action - you and others can find it in exchange area. Try it out, take it away from me pls!
https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...6540385-wts-curtis-axiom-action-308-bolt-face
Gonna go out on a limb and say the Curtis doesn't weigh 4 pounds.(tl3 is 32oz) Just weigh it, surely you have a scale. The mausingfield weighs 36 oz and that's about the heaviest one around. I understand if you just prefer one over the other no big deal,but what do you mean you are worried about sight view?
Although it wasn't clear, I took it to mean he was talking about bolt lift. If you see the video earlier on bolt lift, you can see how much the rifle is disturbed when operating the bolt with 1 finger. Mine weighs 36 oz. with a trigger on it.
Cageli~
Sorry to hear that you were not happy with the bolt lift on our Axiom. Your action was in the first batch of pre-order actions to go out the door. We have made small refinements since that run of actions were shipped.
if you would like to return your action to me, I will pay for return shipping, and offer your choice of a complete refund, or an exchange for the latest model to include a complete DLC treated bolt. If you choose to have me send you a new action, and you are still not happy with it, I will refund your money.
I can be reached at:
[email protected]
717-805-0940
Cageli~
Sorry to hear that you were not happy with the bolt lift on our Axiom. Your action was in the first batch of pre-order actions to go out the door. We have made small refinements since that run of actions were shipped.
if you would like to return your action to me, I will pay for return shipping, and offer your choice of a complete refund, or an exchange for the latest model to include a complete DLC treated bolt. If you choose to have me send you a new action, and you are still not happy with it, I will refund your money.
I can be reached at:
[email protected]
717-805-0940
I'm pretty sure this thread has convinced me. Goodbye 700.
Has anybody else ran into the issue of the Axiom's tenon being .050 longer than that of a 700 footprint? I got a nasty surprise this morning when I was trying to finish up a rifle, and found out that with the recoil lug seated against the MPA chassis, the action screws wouldn't line up with the chassis holes. (Tried it in my XLR Element also.) Apparently a revision has been made and the solution for the older ones is to put a shim behind the lug.
Has anybody else ran into the issue of the Axiom's tenon being .050 longer than that of a 700 footprint? I got a nasty surprise this morning when I was trying to finish up a rifle, and found out that with the recoil lug seated against the MPA chassis, the action screws wouldn't line up with the chassis holes. (Tried it in my XLR Element also.) Apparently a revision has been made and the solution for the older ones is to put a shim behind the lug.
Joel - I will take your offer and get an upgrade. I love the design and concept, that's why I got it at the first place. I'm confident you guys know this well and will address it. Once I get it back, I'll update everyone about how great your action and your service are.
Again thanks for standing behind your product.
Had 3 from the first batch and did not have that issue
The Vector will be out shortly.. we're in the process of redesigning the exterior so that we're not a look alike to the others .
You may want to double check them. If they went into any type of chassis with no other mods, I'd be willing to bet the action screws are taking part of the recoil forces instead of the lug.