Custom Bolt Action Build at Home?

[MIROPHAN]

You are absolutely right in all of your thought processes spelled out here. Especially when it comes to timing.

Timing is very much isolated to how an action feels, not how it performs. Feel is subjective to the user, not a standard. However, a timed trigger does give a LOT of people warm and fuzzy's when it's done right. And, as stated in this thread, we will do it for free if you send your trigger to us prior to your action shipping.

If you know how to turn an wrench and install a few screws, you can assemble a rifle. To echo what a lot of people have said, assembling a rifle and fine tuning a rifle are two different things. There may be some feed lip tweaks here and there to get it right, but it's not rocket science with high quality components and some good tools.

We have faith in our customers to get it right on their own, but we'll always be there to talk something through with you if you need some advice on what to do and where.

Thank you - Ray

I really appreciate you coming onto my humble thread to comment. It speaks to the quality of your company and I appreciate the comments. I likely will be reaching out to place an order in another couple of months. Thank you

 

[spife7980]

Thanks for the info guys.

Though I said it: You’re unlikely to sand enough off the cocking piece for it to actually not set primers off though (so I try to pay halfway attention to it). They still crush pretty easy, br nerds geek out about the crap though. You would have to get really ham fisted for that be a serious concern. I just don’t mind it at all.

 

[SporterII]

With the eh1 you may not need adj. cheek. Mini chassis is the shizzle.
Ilike the t6a but that’s me.

 

[A&8's]

I also really don't like the wait time for a Manners stock. Once I make the decision to move, I want to move and buy relatively quickly.

Here is another reason to have a riflesmith do work. Lead times for the average Joe Q citizen, especially this time of year, can be 3 weeks to 6 months for certain items. Whereas many of the riflesmiths that do this kind of work a lot will, either, have commonly requested chassis/stocks or barrel blanks on hand or have already pre-ordered these items months ago. So what will take you 2 moths to get in, the 'smith may be getting a shipment in Thursday (which he pre-ordered back in July.)

 

[padom]

or TL3 or archimedes
or an impact with hanger
or you run a BnA trigger

you do know enough to be dangerous

Never had to time a trigger in my 3 TL3's and 1 Origin....

 

[Zermatt Arms]

Never had to time a trigger in my 3 TL3's and 1 Origin....

It's really got to be said that you don't HAVE to time the trigger. It's all for feel and feel is subjective to the individual.

The conversation has gone down a path where (I believe) people think it's got to be done to be functional. That's not true. Hopefully that part of it is understood by existing and prospective customers.

As always, if you have questions, we (Zermatt Arms) are always happy to help you guys out. Always feel free to message, email, call or whatever makes you comfortable to contact us. We're here to help you. Thanks - Ray

 

[b6graham]

Never had to time a trigger in my 3 TL3's and 1 Origin....

i didn't 'need' to do. but it feels better to me

 

[steve123]

Here is another reason to have a riflesmith do work. Lead times for the average Joe Q citizen, especially this time of year, can be 3 weeks to 6 months for certain items. Whereas many of the riflesmiths that do this kind of work a lot will, either, have commonly requested chassis/stocks or barrel blanks on hand or have already pre-ordered these items months ago. So what will take you 2 moths to get in, the 'smith may be getting a shipment in Thursday (which he pre-ordered back in July.)

And the operative word being "may" which can quickly turn into "may not". Like that's never happened before, wink.

My first full custom went from 3 months estimated by Smith to 9 months and it might have taken as long as a year if I hadn't started complaining. He had gotten busy with life's distractions, not ordering parts in a timely manor, and other work he had.

The key is to have "all" the build parts shipped to a Smith known to get things done quickly, like LRI, but all these higher end Smiths are expensive.

 

[IowaGeologist]

The conversation has gone down a path where (I believe) people think it's got to be done to be functional. That's not true. Hopefully that part of it is understood by existing and prospective customers.

As someone who was initially confused when first reading about it, after further explanation by you and another poster I feel pretty confident about going forward without it being timed. I'd assume it's pretty clear to others following along as well. Regardless, sounds like my action is ready at this point so I'm not about to wait around with shipping my trigger to you guys.

Thanks again Ray for the quick turn around and all the help, especially with the controlled round feed/push feed issue with the 223AI.

 

[acudaowner]

what or how ever you decide to do it your self or have a gunsmith do it for you I wish you much success and loads of great days shooting . I wanted to do mine myself but quickly remembered how much money I was spending and that mile high could sell and would put the parts together and , I could not be happier well maybe with self aiming projectiles other wise I am a little piggy in a mud puddle all to his self .

 

[A&8's]

And the operative word being "may" which can quickly turn into "may not". Like that's never happened before, wink.

My first full custom went from 3 months estimated by Smith to 9 months and it might have taken as long as a year if I hadn't started complaining. He had gotten busy with life's distractions, not ordering parts in a timely manor, and other work he had.

The key is to have "all" the build parts shipped to a Smith known to get things done quickly, like LRI, but all these higher end Smiths are expensive.

Having the customer purchase and have items shipped to the smith is fine. Providing the customer knows WTF they’re ordering. I can’t count the times the customer has ordered what he thought was the ‘best’ part, only to find out it won’t even fit the action he ordered. “So, why won’t this TT Diamond work in my Savage action your doing for me? It’s supposed to be top line.”
Or all the google/youtube experts out there. Just because he read in the net a 16” 1:14 is the cats ass for a 6.5! Now, I have to explain that the 3 mo ths wait for the barrel he ‘knew’ is what he had to run, probably won’t spit a 1.00 BC bullet farther than 50 yards accurately. (That was figuratively speaking.)

Also, people have to realize smith’s lead times are dependent on work load. A 3 month build time in April can easily become 6 months if the customer dicks around until December to commit and pony up a deposit.

 

[steve123]

Having the customer purchase and have items shipped to the smith is fine. Providing the customer knows WTF they’re ordering. I can’t count the times the customer has ordered what he thought was the ‘best’ part, only to find out it won’t even fit the action he ordered. “So, why won’t this TT Diamond work in my Savage action your doing for me? It’s supposed to be top line.”
Or all the google/youtube experts out there. Just because he read in the net a 16” 1:14 is the cats ass for a 6.5! Now, I have to explain that the 3 mo ths wait for the barrel he ‘knew’ is what he had to run, probably won’t spit a 1.00 BC bullet farther than 50 yards accurately. (That was figuratively speaking.)

Also, people have to realize smith’s lead times are dependent on work load. A 3 month build time in April can easily become 6 months if the customer dicks around until December to commit and pony up a deposit.

Yep, communication, maybe a build list, goes a long way in getting it done without hassle, that works both ways.