Suppressors Dead Air Suppressor Quality

[Arc Light]

I'm considering getting only my second can for use strictly on bolt action rifles and am considering the Nomad-L from Dead Air. Looking for the most sound suppression and weight is not a concern. Looking to keep it under $1K plus the stamp. That leaves TBAC out before anyone mentions it. In doing some research, I've come across posts about Dead Air's QC being hit or miss. I've seen posts complaining about bad welds, threads that are not concentric with suppressor bore, suppressors that came apart after the first shot, etc. Were these isolated events? In the past? Anyone had issues with Dead Air suppressors recently? I understand they have a good warranty, but the last thing I want to do is mess around after waiting a year for permission to own it. The Nomad-L looks like the ideal suppressor for my needs, if the quality is there.

 

[Klay23]

I’ve had no issues with my Sandman.

 

[SingleShot85]

Don’t forget to look at slincerCo omega 300. But the Dead air is gtg

 

[just browsing]

DeadAir is fine but I would call KGM like, tomorrow… they may still have some cans left over from their “going OEM/mil/LEO only” sale.

R30s we’re $450 last week, R6/65s we’re $350… probably don’t have many left but it’s worth a shot.

 

[_Windrider_]

DeadAir is fine but I would call KGM like, tomorrow… they may still have some cans left over from their “going OEM/mil/LEO only” sale.

R30s we’re $450 last week, R6/65s we’re $350… probably don’t have many left but it’s worth a shot.

I’m almost positive KGM does the final assembly and manufacturing of the dead air. @Rade1MOA

 

[just browsing]

I’m almost positive KGM does the final assembly and manufacturing of the dead air. @Rade1MOA

They do… and Daniel Defense… and someone else I think, don’t remember who.

Point is they were/are blowing out all the KGM-branded inventory.

 

[Huskydriver]

Dead air outsourced most of their machining back in the day to kgm. That is no longer the case I believe buy with confidence.

Todd is on here occasionally and will help you get whatever fixed should the situation arise

 

[packratt]

Where did you see those prices on kgm ? Website just shows msrp.

 

[kswaterfowl]

Should I be hesitant to buy a kgm suppressor?

 

[_Windrider_]

Should I be hesitant to buy a kgm suppressor?

Hell no. I have 2 and 1 more in the way. They are phenomenal.

 

[Huskydriver]

Should I be hesitant to buy a kgm suppressor?

I wouldn't support them personally but I'm biased

 

[ForgeValley]

Been shooting a Sandman S for 2 years now I think. 6 Gt to 300 Norma and lots in between. No issues. Well except that time I got a light end cap strike because I hadn't mounted it correctly.

 

[CMP70306]

Should I be hesitant to buy a kgm suppressor?

Hell no. I have 2 and 1 more in the way. They are phenomenal.

I had the weld failed on two of my three KG Made Nomad Tis and they took their good old time fixing them. And when I got them back they left the blast media in them and it took a couple hours, a bunch of washes and several range trips until I stopped getting blast media in my action.

The cans themselves are great and Todd was responsive to my messages but I would trust KG Made at all.

 

[hafejd30]

I think @FuhQ has a few

 

[_Windrider_]

I had the weld failed on two of my three KG Made Nomad Tis and they took their good old time fixing them. And when I got them back they left the blast media in them and it took a couple hours, a bunch of washes and several range trips until I stopped getting blast media in my action.

The cans themselves are great and Todd was responsive to my messages but I would trust KG Made at all.

That’s an unfortunate experience. I can understand why you feel the way you do. Mine have been flawless. I guess like any man made thing.

sometimes maybe good. Sometimes maybe shit.

 

[darkfader]

I have a sandman S and the Wolverine. Both feel rugged, and perform as I had hoped. I’ve got an Otter Creek can ordered but I want a Nomad L and that’ll be the next one in line for me. No problems with the Dead Air cans I have.

 

[CMP70306]

That’s an unfortunate experience. I can understand why you feel the way you do. Mine have been flawless. I guess like any man made thing.

sometimes maybe good. Sometimes maybe shit.

Yeah I was thinking it would be a quick turn around and I’d have them back before deer season a month later. It took over 5 months to get them back, longer than it took to get the stamp in the first place. In the end Dead Air made it right and threw in some Xeno mounts and brakes to make up for the delay.

The Nomad Ls I have have been great with zero issues.

 

[FuhQ]

I think @FuhQ has a few

Has a few what?

 

[NiteQwill]

A TBAC certificate + Ultra 7/9/Dominus is within your budget.

I have 5+ dead air cans, I wouldn't buy them full price at all.

 

[just browsing]

These were/are the KGM prices for all that asked. Last I heard they were either out of or running very low on the 30K and 65s. Just call Beau to order.

 

[kthomas]

These were/are the KGM prices for all that asked. Last I heard they were either out of or running very low on the 30K and 65s. Just call Beau to order.

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So what's the deal? KGM is no longer selling their branded suppressors to the public anymore?

 

[kthomas]

A TBAC certificate + Ultra 7/9/Dominus is within your budget.

I have 5+ dead air cans, I wouldn't buy them full price at all.

This is probably what I would do.

 

[hafejd30]

Has a few what?

Sorry I thought you had a few dead air cans? I must be mistaken

 

[just browsing]

So what's the deal? KGM is no longer selling their branded suppressors to the public anymore?

That’s the way I understand it. I have zero affiliation with them so it’s just what I heard/what Beau told me.

They’re doing away with the commercial KGM lines and instead OEMing for DA, DD, etc. Plus they still have their public sector/LE contracts (and apparently a big new one).

I did confirm that they will continue to warranty/service the legacy cans, but once the inventory is gone you won’t be able to get them anymore.

 

[NiteQwill]

So what's the deal? KGM is no longer selling their branded suppressors to the public anymore?

They just got a large FED contract. Basically have 30 days to redeem or pay for any existing orders.

(Don't quote me but that's the Intel)

 

[_Windrider_]

These were/are the KGM prices for all that asked. Last I heard they were either out of or running very low on the 30K and 65s. Just call Beau to order.

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Damn. Those are some disgustingply good prices. Kinda feel violated after buying the r556 from the group buy for double that just a month ago.

 

[kthomas]

Damn. Those are some disgustingply good prices. Kinda feel violated after buying the r556 from the group buy for double that just a month ago.

The R338 is awfully tempting at that price...

And yeah, I can see how that would sting.

 

[_Windrider_]

The R338 is awfully tempting at that price...

And yeah, I can see how that would sting.

It’s almost a no brainer at that price.

 

[5RWill]

These were/are the KGM prices for all that asked. Last I heard they were either out of or running very low on the 30K and 65s. Just call Beau to order.

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Looks like I'm calling first thing in the morning. Jesus

 

[hlee]

How does one call Beau? Does he have a phone number? Or is it more of a bat signal kind of thing?

 

[FuhQ]

Sorry I thought you had a few dead air cans? I must be mistaken

Yeah, I currently have 4 Dead Air cans. My bad, I didn't realize which brand you were talking about. Been busy today so haven't kept up with the convo.

Which ones are they interested in knowing about? I got a Nomad-LT, 2 Sandman-S cans, and a Mask HD.

 

[hafejd30]

I'm considering getting only my second can for use strictly on bolt action rifles and am considering the Nomad-L from Dead Air. Looking for the most sound suppression and weight is not a concern. Looking to keep it under $1K plus the stamp. That leaves TBAC out before anyone mentions it. In doing some research, I've come across posts about Dead Air's QC being hit or miss. I've seen posts complaining about bad welds, threads that are not concentric with suppressor bore, suppressors that came apart after the first shot, etc. Were these isolated events? In the past? Anyone had issues with Dead Air suppressors recently? I understand they have a good warranty, but the last thing I want to do is mess around after waiting a year for permission to own it. The Nomad-L looks like the ideal suppressor for my needs, if the quality is there.

Yeah, I currently have 4 Dead Air cans. My bad, I didn't realize which brand you were talking about. Been busy today so haven't kept up with the convo.

Which ones are they interested in knowing about? I got a Nomad-LT, 2 Sandman-S cans, and a Mask HD.

Nomad L from OP initial post

 

[FuhQ]

I'm considering getting only my second can for use strictly on bolt action rifles and am considering the Nomad-L from Dead Air. Looking for the most sound suppression and weight is not a concern. Looking to keep it under $1K plus the stamp. That leaves TBAC out before anyone mentions it. In doing some research, I've come across posts about Dead Air's QC being hit or miss. I've seen posts complaining about bad welds, threads that are not concentric with suppressor bore, suppressors that came apart after the first shot, etc. Were these isolated events? In the past? Anyone had issues with Dead Air suppressors recently? I understand they have a good warranty, but the last thing I want to do is mess around after waiting a year for permission to own it. The Nomad-L looks like the ideal suppressor for my needs, if the quality is there.

Dead Air Nomad-LT or Otter Creek Labs Hydrogen-L would be your best options. I have both...They're phenomenal cans.

Dead Air's QC has not been hit-or-miss that I've ever seen personally. All the welds on my Nomad-LT have held just fine, and I've honestly shot the living shit out of that can. It's had several thousand rounds through it, from .223 up to 7mm STW and .300 Ackley (.300 Wby on steroids). Handled everything like a champ.

The Otter Creek Labs cans are ganging some serious traction very fast for good reason...They may be a new company, but they're innovating and building cans that are hanging in there with the big dogs that have been doing this for decades, and giving them a serious run for their money, at competitive prices.

Another good option would be the TBAC Magnus HUB.

 

[USO-Josh]

Dead air makes a fine suppressor and yes they are made by KGM. Normally I would recommend TBAC for all bolt gun needs but since price is set under 1000$ I would look at the Otter Creek Labs Hydrogen L or S great sounding can and pretty light weight at a awesome price.

 

[kswaterfowl]

Of course the two kgm suppressors I was looking at are out of stock.

 

[HansohnBrothers]

These were/are the KGM prices for all that asked. Last I heard they were either out of or running very low on the 30K and 65s. Just call Beau to order.

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We are blowing out what we have left. R65. SOLD OUT.

 

[southernpew]

Yes you were. Thanks

 

[HaydenLane]

Unfortunate news about the KGM, they were on my short list for my next bonus.

 

[Gustav7]

I'm considering getting only my second can for use strictly on bolt action rifles and am considering the Nomad-L from Dead Air. Looking for the most sound suppression and weight is not a concern. Looking to keep it under $1K plus the stamp. That leaves TBAC out before anyone mentions it. In doing some research, I've come across posts about Dead Air's QC being hit or miss. I've seen posts complaining about bad welds, threads that are not concentric with suppressor bore, suppressors that came apart after the first shot, etc. Were these isolated events? In the past? Anyone had issues with Dead Air suppressors recently? I understand they have a good warranty, but the last thing I want to do is mess around after waiting a year for permission to own it. The Nomad-L looks like the ideal suppressor for my needs, if the quality is there.

You should seriously consider the Rex Silentium MG10, MG7, or a custom baffle length to your choosing.

I have two of his cans and they are phenomenal. Solid 17-4ph and both mine have been flawless fit and finish. They come standard with HUB threading. Great value with his prices and he’ll run sales a few times a year.

You can get a custom 8 baffle for $724 without the direct thread, then use a HUB mount of your choice.

 

[NiteQwill]

You should seriously consider the Rex Silentium MG10, MG7, or a custom baffle length to your choosing.

I have two of his cans and they are phenomenal. Solid 17-4ph and both mine have been flawless fit and finish. They come standard with HUB threading. Great value with his prices and he’ll run sales a few times a year.

You can get a custom 8 baffle for $724 without the direct thread, then use a HUB mount of your choice.

The Rex cans (I have a few) are just too heavy. Additionally, too much back pressure from them.

With that said, I agree on all your points.

 

[FuhQ]

Of course the two kgm suppressors I was looking at are out of stock.

Four words… Otter Creek Labs Hydrogen

 

[FuhQ]

We are blowing out what we have left. R65. SOLD OUT.

Any R30XL cans left? If so, wanna hook a brother up?

 

[Gustav7]

The Rex cans (I have a few) are just too heavy. Additionally, too much back pressure from them.

With that said, I agree on all your points.

Shouldn't matter as much on a bolt gun, which is the OP's purpose. 100% they're a little back pressure heavy but my MGx 4 baffle with 223 bore is actually less back pressure than my SOCOM RC1. But I'm sure there are plenty out there with less. Didn't really want to pony up $1k for a flow through.

That being said, the newer Gen9 MG7 weighs 11.3oz. I don't feel like thats that bad.

 

[HansohnBrothers]

Any R30XL cans left? If so, wanna hook a brother up?

Sorry man, completely out of KGM.

 

[MERCULA]

I’ve got 4 dead air cans. Wouldn’t change a damn thing. Nomad L is one of them. Love it.

 

[Arc Light]

A TBAC certificate + Ultra 7/9/Dominus is within your budget.

I have 5+ dead air cans, I wouldn't buy them full price at all.

Where does one find this TBAC certificate you speak of? In the PX? I would certainly consider going that route.

 

[NiteQwill]

Where does one find this TBAC certificate you speak of? In the PX? I would certainly consider going that route.

Win one at a match or buy off someone who did.

 

[Kadams1563]

Where does one find this TBAC certificate you speak of? In the PX? I would certainly consider going that route.

They come up for sale all the time. Just watch the PX.

 

[K80/6.5]

These were/are the KGM prices for all that asked. Last I heard they were either out of or running very low on the 30K and 65s. Just call Beau to order.

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Thank you guys scored an R30 and so did my brother and saved over $400 including stamp.

 

[Arc Light]

You guys that have direct-thread Nomads, any issues with them coming loose after 10,15,20 rounds? That would be my biggest concern with going DT.