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Hunting & Fishing Deer feeders

coldboremiracle

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    I've always wondered why it isn't illeagal to bait deer, It seems like its cheating, especially the way it is typically portrayed on television, the deer stand placed strategically between three different feeders, and the hunters sit and talk until some giant buck who's been fed antler growth products his whole life walks up for his morning meal, and gets shot.
    Just curious how the rest of you feel on this subject, do you hunt this way? or not?
     
    Re: Deer feeders

    I have no problem with suplemental feeding deer via foodplots, feeders and what not. I don't really have a problem with hunting deer in these same areas as the animal still has to cooperate and wind directions must also be favorable as well as the hunter must make the shot. It just wouldn't be right to say you can hunt over food plots and not feeders. I do however live in a state that allows food plots but, feeders must be removed a minimum of 10 days prior to the start of the season and I comply. Its great for off season scouting and trail cameras.
     
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    Baiting deer is illegal here in NY and I have absolutely no problem with that. Actually, I'm glad!

    A food plot doesn't have metal legs, an artificially filled hopper full of goodies & a timed release of 'candy' for the animals, so it's hard (for me) to a consider them even remotely similar. Same can be said when comparing a feeder to an agricultural field...

    If a hunter were to take the time & effort to sow & tend a food plot for the local wildlife, then I say more power to him. That is a heck of a lot more beneficial to the land than sprinkling corn kernels down a sendero. And I don't think a food plot triggers the same Pavlovian response from animals that the whizzin' sound of the ol' corn chucker would...

    Personally, I take more pride & satisfaction in taking a deer in the wild woods than I would sitting over a bait pile somehwere waiting for "Bullwinkle from the trail cam" to show up...

    What I consider enjoyable & honorable while hunting for myself is not an attempt to push my personal values & beliefs on any other sportsman. To each, his own...
     
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    I may be totally off on this so if i am feel free to correct me as this has been my own experience with hunting over feeders. Feeders do not draw in deer like on tv. I have a really great place to hunt with lots of deer and the feeder doesn't draw them in like they do on tv. The same 2 deer fed under my feeder all yeer while tons of others can through my shooting lanes not even interested in eating that corn. After closely observing this for the past 2 years, I have come to conclude that to get big deer to eat under feeders as seen on TV, you will have to let that button buck/ spike feed under it religiously without incident until after several years he becomes that big buck. I have yet to see a big buck come to the feeder to eat except middle of the night.

    The feeders have been of so little use to us over these past 2 years, we have to decided to just spend that money on rye grass cuz we know how well that works. Years ago the cattle farmers next store would plant our fields and it was like hunting at the zoo when I was a kid. it wasnt nothing to see 10-15 deer in a 5 acre field on a regular basis.
     
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    I feel that hunting under a feeder does not offer any real advantage for trophy hunting in my area either. There are the resident does that feed on the corn on a fairly consistent basis and the hopes are, that one of those does will come into heat and that big buck will stroll by checking for hot does and boom. Hardly the case, I hunt 4,600ac with over 50 working feeders on the place and I don't actually hunt over any of the working feeders. They offer no real advantage for trophy deer in my area and haven't in the past 15 years.

    The majority of the hunts you see on TV where the big buck is shot just beneath a feeder is subject to much more scrutiny from the "fair chase" society than the feeder that they are harvested under. Most of these are high fence game ranches where genetically superior deer from around the country are flown in and cross bred. Usually done in an area that can not naturally sustain the amount of deer that are on this ranch and subsequently they are forced to eat from the feeders to survive. This in know way depicts the reality of most of us "fair chase" hunters.

    The advantages to baiting deer for me are much more complex than harvesting one trophy animal from underneath it.
     
    Re: Deer feeders

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coldboremiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I've always wondered why it isn't illeagal to bait deer, It seems like its cheating, especially the way it is typically portrayed on television, the deer stand placed strategically between three different feeders, and the hunters sit and talk until some giant buck who's been fed antler growth products his whole life walks up for his morning meal, and gets shot.
    Just curious how the rest of you feel on this subject, do you hunt this way? or not?</div></div>

    Most people that I know that grow deer don't shoot their "breeder bucks". Feeders are more used to attract does for various reasons. Besides breeder bucks I have not seen many trophy bucks under corn feeders on a regular basis.
     
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    on my deer lease here in OK we had to use feeders. Everyone around was using them. If we didn't, the does would leave our area and when the breeding season started we wouldn't see anything.

    Every buck I shot off it has been trailing a doe and hasn't stopped at the feeder.
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body">on my deer lease here in OK we had to use feeders. Everyone around was using them. If we didn't, the does would leave our area and when the breeding season started we wouldn't see anything.

    Every buck I shot off it has been trailing a doe and hasn't stopped at the feeder.</div></div>

    Ditto! Also states that do allow feeders or "baiting" typically have such a huge number of deer that if they did not allow that type of hunting they would simply over populate season to season and we would have much more road kill and as an end result smaller game due to over crowding and less food.
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coldboremiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It all seems a bit domesticating to me, almost like livestock.</div></div>

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: knockemdown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Baiting deer is illegal here in NY and I have absolutely no problem with that. Actually, I'm glad!

    A food plot doesn't have metal legs, an artificially filled hopper full of goodies & a timed release of 'candy' for the animals, so it's hard (for me) to a consider them even remotely similar. Same can be said when comparing a feeder to an agricultural field...

    If a hunter were to take the time & effort to sow & tend a food plot for the local wildlife, then I say more power to him. That is a heck of a lot more beneficial to the land than sprinkling corn kernels down a sendero. And I don't think a food plot triggers the same Pavlovian response from animals that the whizzin' sound of the ol' corn chucker would...

    Personally, I take more pride & satisfaction in taking a deer in the wild woods than I would sitting over a bait pile somehwere waiting for "Bullwinkle from the trail cam" to show up...

    What I consider enjoyable & honorable while hunting for myself is not an attempt to push my personal values & beliefs on any other sportsman. To each, his own...</div></div>

    It is clear that neither of you have used this method.

    Deer are much smarter than you give them credit. Should you be lucky enough to catch a "trophy buck" under a feeder, its just that Luck!

    True, if you goal is just to harvest a deer, you've got a more than decent chance to catch a young buck and even more so a doe hanging out eating at the feeders.

    I would expect the same results hunting around any wheat, corn, soy, or alfalfa field. Food plots of clover, peas or what ever is the same thing.

    Fact is any method of hunting besides spot and stalk can be considered baiting:

    Watering holes
    Agriculture fields
    feeders
    scouted game trails

    Bottom line, non-hunting persons use these differences to divide hunter among themselves, weakening our rights and strengthening their agenda of stopping hunting all together.

    Get over your self righteous hunting morals and stand together with all hunters across our country or you WILL lose your right to hunt.
     
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    Funny,
    I have seen this often, the guys using feeders will tell you that they are no advantage. If they are no advantage don't use them. Simple. If you do not have deer without feeders, it is likely that you just do not have good habitat. Maybe it is not a deer hunting property. I also have neighbors who put feeders on my fence, and try to bait the deer off my managed land. ( MY management consist of controlling harvest on 3500 acres and managing habitat, not commerical hunting any of it)Or sell hunts to sit and watch them, to Texans mostly.
    I also see this with high fence. Guys build a high fence and tell you that the deer don't even know it is there. If they do not know, take it down and they will be equally unaware.
    Bluntly, I would not look to Texas for morals or ethics in the hunting field.
    I do like the quote above, "Get over your self righteous hunting morals....." I think I will just keep mine. They are not "self righteous, they are just right.
     
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    The issue here started with "what I saw on TV" and I will be the first to say, I do not agree with a lot of what I see on hunting shows. They do things to get the best footage as soon as possible and those shows are not a good example of reality but more so for viewer enjoyment and to sell the goods in the comercials.

    I don't use feeders because of the large amount of grain fields in my area. As long as there is green foliage there is no given time or day a deer will come to a field. They eat and snack as they want untill the hard winter sets in and causes them to trail up and eat on a schedule at a given location but that is so late in the season they have gone to night exposure only.

    The best part of the hunt is the months of scouting, finding a pattern, and being able to get into their back yard undetected. Those are the things I remember about the season, not the arrow hitting the boiler room.
     
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    It doesnt seem to bother the guys paying $5000 to kill a B&C Whitetail in south Texas. They feed and mineral year round. I have feeders at every stand. No one hunting on my place has ever killed a big buck under a feeder. They are way too smart to be caught there. When the rut starts they spend their time with their nose in the air smelling for does. If you dont attract the does you dont get the bucks. Here in east Texas we are over populated with does and every year the doe only season gets longer to try and deal with them. This is not flat open land like Kansas and Nebraska, this is thick woods and in a lot of areas you cant walk thru it. If you didnt clear off a plot or set a feeder out, there wouldnt be any deer hunting. I dont go hunting on TV where they bait, tie up and catch deer in a trap so the host can shoot something and sell more Sako rifles or more Mossy Oak camo. If Bill Jordan came to my place he might spend his whole deer season filming for 1 shot and he might be lucky to get it. TV is just that, you see what they want you to see. It aint like that here in the real world.
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SingleShot85</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coldboremiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It all seems a bit domesticating to me, almost like livestock.</div></div>

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: knockemdown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Baiting deer is illegal here in NY and I have absolutely no problem with that. ...</div></div>

    It is clear that neither of you have used this method.

    </div></div>

    Yes, as stated.
     
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    It's funny how most states pass judgement on Texas hunting yet 90% of research and impovements to hunting and range management are conducted here.

    It amuses me to no end to read the uneducated ramblings and misguided conjectures of slap dick "holier than thou" hunters.

    I will continue to support all legal mean of hunting, fishing and trapping, even in the states where fairies tote daddy's shotgun and walk around in blaze orange.

    K-A
     
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    haha.. im home till mid may.. got a week long deal to do.. then back over.. should be interesting wont have a pup this go...

    no worries.. i still have ya on my list to come see.. make sure you have one of those tame axis bucks tied up to a tree for me.. maybe put some nyquil in his feed to so he wont walk around so fast...
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SingleShot85</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

    It amuses me to no end to read the uneducated ramblings and misguided conjectures of slap dick "holier than thou" hunters.

    even in the states where fairies tote daddy's shotgun and walk around in blaze orange.

    K-A
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    LOL!!!!!



    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kingrabbit</div><div class="ubbcode-body">haha.. im home till mid may.. got a week long deal to do.. then back over.. should be interesting wont have a pup this go...

    no worries.. i still have ya on my list to come see.. make sure you have one of those tame axis bucks tied up to a tree for me.. maybe put some nyquil in his feed to so he wont walk around so fast... </div></div>

    Hell yeah!!! dont you know all corn in texas is already laced with a sleeping agent to help us hunters that have to hunt under a feeder!!!!!!


    Now a crazy texas deer not!! killed under a feeder!! Only on cam during the night
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    NOmag
     
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    How about this .Everbody hunt the way they want and stop point fingers at whos fair. Clean kills and no wasted meat is ethics. the rest is politics /in short B.S. I hunt for meat. If LAWFUL I would use a .22 or a bow over bait /at night/shoot only does/shoot one or more a day/recover every deer I hit (when freezer was full I would give the meat to some hunger family) and still never kill more deer that get hit by cars /ate by coyotes/ or FREEZER BURN in sombodys freezer who looks down on all the things I just said.BUT it's not LAWFUL so I don't.
    Scot
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rth1800</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Funny,
    I have seen this often, the guys using feeders will tell you that they are no advantage. If they are no advantage don't use them. Simple. If you do not have deer without feeders, it is likely that you just do not have good habitat. Maybe it is not a deer hunting property. I also have neighbors who put feeders on my fence, and try to bait the deer off my managed land. ( MY management consist of controlling harvest on 3500 acres and managing habitat, not commerical hunting any of it)Or sell hunts to sit and watch them, to Texans mostly.
    I also see this with high fence. Guys build a high fence and tell you that the deer don't even know it is there. If they do not know, take it down and they will be equally unaware.
    Bluntly, I would not look to Texas for morals or ethics in the hunting field.
    I do like the quote above, "Get over your self righteous hunting morals....." I think I will just keep mine. They are not "self righteous, they are just right. </div></div>

    Are you lashing out at people because they choose to have trophy deer on their property?
    I never saw anyone who had HIGH quality whitetails that invested years and tons of money developing, whine about high fences and corn feeders.
    No you don't have HIGH quality game like people with good programs and high fences. I guess all the 10k to 30k+ acre ranches in south Texas with corn feeders is like shooting 200in whitetails with ear tags in a holding pen?

    Corn feeders?
    Does killing a deer in a food plot, watering hole, walking down a trail or bedded down with a scoped rifle give you the illusion that it was actual "fair chase"? Does that make you feel better about yourself?
     
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    I have 1800 acres about an hour south of Abilene, we have five feeders on the place. Feeders serve many purposes, one, it is a way to help fight overpoulation and if you have ever been in the hill country here then you know that that is a problem, second feeders are a valuable food source for the animals during times of drought which is very common here, third they also will give you a fairly good notion about the health and quality of animals you have being that you can observe them a little easier.
    As far as hunting feeders I don't have a problem with that if you don't like it don't do it, I have a hard time distinguishing the difference between hunting a feeder and hunting alfalfa or corn fields in other states like Kansas or Colorado. I have hunted all over the world Africa, Alaska, all over the western U.S and of course Texas and will continue to do so. If you are looking for fair chase then do what a friend of mine and I have been doing for a while now and pick up a bow and stalk the mule deer and whitetails in the eastern plains of Colorado. Nothin like it.
    Also no better way to eliminate wild swine than having 15-20 come into one of my feeders or wheat fields at night and using my suppressed LWRC REPR with NV and laying waste to them.
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Corn feeders?
    Does killing a deer in a food plot, watering hole, walking down a trail or bedded down with a scoped rifle give you the illusion that it was actual "fair chase"? Does that make you feel better about yourself?
    </div></div>

    The part about deer hunting to us guys who don't/can't/won't bait animals artificially, is that we have to find (hunt) the deer before we can shoot them. There is no 'drawing' or 'holding' deer in an area via a mechanical feed station. If the deer are not on our chosen property, then we have to FIND them, HUNT them, then SHOOT them where they happen to be at the time...

    If there happens to be a source of water or forage (natural or agricultural) that deer are frequenting, then a savvy hunter will key in on that and HUNT the deer in that area. Hunting in that regard cannot even be remotely compared to artificially baiting animals via human maintained feed stations...

    The fact that a trophy buck may not be shot right under or at a feeder makes little difference to that fact. And attesting to the intelligence of that animal for not coming to the feeder during shooting hours doesn't mean poop. He is in that area because that feeder is there. No way around it...

    I would question those who shoot deer in/around feeder(s) if they would have the constitution to sit out and wait for that same buck to wander past on it's own accord if it were not for the feeder "holding the does" in that area?
    Secondly, would that buck even BE in that area if it were not for the feeder(s)?
    Finally, would that buck even be able to grow THAT big were it not for the supplimental food source?

    I've much respect for a trophy buck and a pretty good idea of how tricky they can be after hunting them in the big woods of the Adirondacks. You will not find a more wide ranging, elusive & spooky deer than a big woods whitetail...

    Again, not trying to push my values on anyone. But the above comparison is ludicris, IMHO...
     
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    the only reason folks in other states dont use feeders is because you are not allowed to.. plain and simple.. you can claim all you want that you are the pure spirit of the hunter but yet you hunt with scopes on your rifles, trail cams, scent cover, tree stands.. doe in heat scent to lure them in..ect..

    if it gives me an advantage to get some meat on my table and feed my family, or extra meat to help out a needy family, then by all means i will use it.
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: knockemdown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

    The part about deer hunting to us guys who don't/can't/won't bait animals artificially, is that we have to find (hunt) the deer before we can shoot them. There is no 'drawing' or 'holding' deer in an area via a mechanical feed station. If the deer are not on our chosen property, then we have to FIND them, HUNT them, then SHOOT them where they happen to be at the time...

    If there happens to be a source of water or forage (natural or agricultural) that deer are frequenting, then a savvy hunter will key in on that and HUNT the deer in that area. Hunting in that regard cannot even be remotely compared to artificially baiting animals via human maintained feed stations...

    The fact that a trophy buck may not be shot right under or at a feeder makes little difference to that fact. And attesting to the intelligence of that animal for not coming to the feeder during shooting hours doesn't mean poop. He is in that area because that feeder is there. No way around it...

    I would question those who shoot deer in/around feeder(s) if they would have the constitution to sit out and wait for that same buck to wander past on it's own accord if it were not for the feeder "holding the does" in that area?
    Secondly, would that buck even BE in that area if it were not for the feeder(s)?
    Finally, would that buck even be able to grow THAT big were it not for the supplimental food source?

    I've much respect for a trophy buck and a pretty good idea of how tricky they can be after hunting them in the big woods of the Adirondacks. You will not find a more wide ranging, elusive & spooky deer than a big woods whitetail...

    Again, not trying to push my values on anyone. But the above comparison is ludicris, IMHO...

    </div></div>

    You are getting a little off base here. The question was asked about the portrayal of baiting/management practices and harvesting said animals in such locations as seen on TV.

    Obviously, you sir have not had a chance to hunt like this before...and that is why the question was asked. So, we who have actual experience in this subject are answering the questions.

    In response to your first paragraph, I would have to say you are definitely making an assumption not based on any facts strictly an opinion, and you sir are wrong. Those of us who are fortunate enough to hunt in the state's that allow use of feeders on private land, still have to spend time scouting, patterning, and hunting to be successful in harvesting any trophy game. Do not form your opinion on this subject due to the "as seen on TV" type of hunts. The majority of us who hunt in state's that allow feeding do not have trophy bucks just hanging out at our feeders and we enjoy scouting and hunting just as much as anyone. If we would have to move for any certain reason to a state that does not allow the use of feeders, I can assure you we wouldn't just give up what we love to do because we can not use "mechanical feed stations". We are still hunters!
     
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    Go on and preach to em' brother Rabbit. Guess thats why all the people you see on those real tree outdoors hunting shows come here to Texas to hunt. They cant find anything to kill in the "no Bait" states. Bring em' on down here if it means no state income tax here. We'll take your spending money. Thanks for helping Texas stimulate our economy.
     
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    The majority of your hunting shows out there are ridiclous to begin with. They are heavily edited and half the stuff on them are made up. I have been on a few bowhunts in Colorado where we were being filmed and they were wanting us to do some strange things. Before we even got on animals we were filming stalk sequences, filming us drawing our bows and shooting (at targets) and other things so they could edit in those scenes later. How many times have you noticed a bad shot on an animal but the host calls out perfect shot and the next scene is they are with the animal and they have it positioned so you can't see where the animal was actually hit or how many times it was hit. I was watching a show where a guy took a really nice mule deer and on the show they made it look like a one shot clean kill when in reality the deer was hit twice, wounded one day and was finally put down two days later. Don't believe what you see on tv, some of those shows arn't much different than hollywood.
    I would also say that I am with the others that said that climbing up in a tree with abuch of doe in heat scent out is no different than baiting with feeders. They are both atractants.
     
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    Sir, I was keeping my comments within the context of baited hunting, as seen on TV, on par with the original post. And my comments then & now were (and are) in support of the original poster's opinion and as an answer to his question:<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just curious how the rest of you feel on this subject, do you hunt this way? or not?</div></div>
    What you guys do on your own land within the confines of your laws is absolutely NO business of mine. Nor will I ever attempt to prevent you from taking game legally. My freezer is full of venison and I respect any man who makes the effort to do the same...

    My last post was to specifically rebut <span style="text-decoration: line-through">your</span>(edit, sub: the) assumption of what baiting & fair chase is. <span style="text-decoration: line-through">Your</span>(edit, sub: Those) comments did didn't make any sense to me, and I have waited out a deer (in South Carolina) over bait. That was both the first & last time, and hogs were on the menu in that area...

    This is one of those "TASTES GREAT!, no LESS FILLING!" debates, not a 'holier than thou' sermon. So I'll leave it at that...
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: knockemdown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

    My last post was to specifically rebut your assumption of what baiting & fair chase is. Your comments did didn't make any sense to me,...

    </div></div>

    Knockemdown, those were not my comments that you were rebutting...

    I just wanted to take the opportunity to share my experience with you so that you could gather some intel on the subject at hand from someone who spends time hunting in a state that allows feeding.

    thanks,
     
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    Sorry for that, wrong CAT, catz! You jumped in there & I didn't look hard enough at your screen name. That part was my mistake...

    In conclusion, it is refreshing to have a civil discussion without it turning into a mudslinging event.

    Take care & good hunting to all...
    Fred
     
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    I guess it's all in how you were taught and where you hunt. I'm in a similar situation as knockemdown. I have lived here in the Blue Ridge mountains of Virginia all of my life and hunted here and in the Alleghany mountains exlusively. Hunting in the mountains requires finding natural food and water sources and scouting time to pattern deer movements. Baiting isn't allowed and quite honestly doesn't prove effective here. Typically when deer are bombarded with an un-natural food source they become suspicious and turn nocturnal. They feed in the fields here nocturnally anyway, but when the food is available whenever they want it in the woods where they normally have to browse, they take advantage and come out when they aren't being hunted.

    I have not hunted out west and know nothing of what it is like. Maybe you need bait out there to bring them to a specific area since you don't have funneling type ridges and mountains like we do. Hunting is good any way you do it as long as it isn't done in excess or a dangerous manner. Don't waste your kills and respect the animals, the rest is preference. If it is legal and you don't have moral exception to it, have at it.

    Personally, I think states like Texas would never get rid of their current baiting regulations due to the ridiculous amount of revenue it generates from out of state hunters who come for that $5000+ guaranteed trophy buck, paying room and board fees at the local hotel and outrageous license fees plus expenses like gas and food. It would be like outlawing gambling in Vegas.

     
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    There are a lot of points here.
    One person made the assumption that if you can bait, you will. I can bait in Kansas and won't.
    All from Texas bait and want us to accept it as hunting. Most won't.
    Most from Texas say baiting does not help but can/would not hunt without it. Odd logic there.
    One guy wanted to know if hunting by fair chase made me feel better? I do not know, as I have never been reduced to hunting over a timed corn dispenser. I would guess a more fair question would be for him to hunt fairly once and see if it made him feel better. He would be in a better positon to judge.
    Most seem to place a very high value on proper utilization of meat. Some seem concerned about "feeding thier faimlies" from the deer they harvest. I doubt most familes actually want to eat deer every day and rather daddy got a better job and bought some beef.
    One guy thinks I do not have quality deer, due to not baiting or high fencing. I donated one fair chase hunt to a conservation organization last year and it brought 13,500. It is not a rut hunt, but stalking in Sept, Oct. I think that would be an indication of the # of wild 200" + deer I have shot and guided to. I do not sell hunts for personal gain. Just take friends and donate hunts to worthy organizations. All hunts are stalking, no bait, no stands.
    I do not think that most even know that in Texas, much of the hunting is done from a truck that you can drive from a high chair and shoot on the move. Mobile deer stands!
    I would ask one question. Why is it that the vast majority of deer that would qualify for B&C records book in Texas are never accepted? (instutinalized poor ethics, baiting, and high fence pen shooting) When a group gets so far from mainstream ethics for so many generations, they think they are the norm. I once heard a Texan whine while walking out of a lecture on fair chase hunting, "man, that stuff they are talking about it just all the stuff we do in Texas". That is one of the reasons I say I would not look to Texas for morales or ethics in hunting.
    I would request that if anyone replies to this post, they use facts and address specificly what I am saying. I doubt this will be done, but I did not personally attack anyone.
     
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    daddy get a better job to put beef on the table..? and you say you are not personally attacking anyone..?

    i dont know where your head is when you think you can say that to folks and not think they would take offense.. i can tell you if you dare said that to alot of folks around here in person you would find yourself knocked on your snobby lil ass right quick..

    funny how you can bag on texas for morals and ethics yet you make statements like that.. strange how folks here hunt according to the law.. yet you are on your high ground slinging mudd at us... it is legal, why not use it?

    and happy horse shit for you and the so called stalks you have done.. i go walking past watering holes and food plots all the time and happen across deer.. i love how you keep saying what you dont use, and what you are against using, but always neglect to toss in there what you are using..
     
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    It's sad to see a bunch of fellow hunters?(I'm assuming considering the topic) arguing among one another. States have different laws and terrains. People hunt different throughout the US does it mean one is right or the other is wrong? Have I personally sat up feeders? Yes in two seperate instances. Did it work? NO! In my part of the country I am surround by farmland 100% Why would they go to my feeder feeling pressured when there's 300 acre corn field next door? They are good as a suppliment food source which is legal in most states during non hunting season. Good for scouting as well. Know I now this is my opinion and to each his own. Would you consider the guy that planted a 4 acre clover field right along the food trail form bedding baiting? Some would. How mant of us have been involved in a hunt pushing deer out of a draw? I've done it for my grandpa who has a hard time getting out, but still loves to hunt. Do it make morely wrong even though the law says I can? I try to bow hunt all of my deer. But when rifle season opens I'll set down the bow and pick up the rifle. Doesn't seem far shooting a nice deer with my 308 I practice out to 1k yards all year long. Like I said before everyone does there thing different. Doesn't make it right or wrong. We should all appreciate the opportunity to hunt and share it with the next generation. And pointing fingers is definetly the wrong dirrection.
     
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    You are very opinionated and have very little factual data (if any) based on what I have read. No sources were sited, etc... Thank you for your opinion, but to make assumptions and then ask everyone else to state "only facts" well, it says a lot...


    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rth1800</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
    All from Texas bait and want us to accept it as hunting. Most won't.

    All hunts are stalking, no bait, no stands.
    I do not think that most even know that in Texas, much of the hunting is done from a truck that you can drive from a high chair and shoot on the move. Mobile deer stands!
    </div></div>

    There is 1,378,458 acres of public hunting land in Texas that does not allow hunting from high rack vehicles or baiting deer.

    So, you sir, are wrong!


    *Sources: Texas Parks and Wildlife Dept.
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rth1800</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
    One guy thinks I do not have quality deer, due to not baiting or high fencing. I donated one fair chase hunt to a conservation organization last year and it brought 13,500. It is not a rut hunt, but stalking in Sept, Oct. I think that would be an indication of the # of wild 200" + deer I have shot and guided to. </div></div>

    How exactly is this an indication of the # of 200in deer you have killed?

    Surely you are not trying to claim you have the quality animals that high fenced breeding/management programs have? I guess people that do just do it for no reason.

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rth1800</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
    One guy wanted to know if hunting by fair chase made me feel better? I do not know, as I have never been reduced to hunting over a timed corn dispenser. I would guess a more fair question would be for him to hunt fairly once and see if it made him feel better. He would be in a better positon to judge.
    </div></div>

    I do hunt with and without bait. Since you have never "been reduced to hunting over a timed corn dispenser" what position are you in to even comment on this topic?

    It sounds like to me you just want to act "holier than thou" as an excuse for not being able to afford managing/growing a quality herd of whitetails.

    I frankly don't appreciate you insulting my state or the people in Texas who have developed these types of hunting and breeding programs.
    You don't have 200in deer everywhere on your land so to compensate for your lack of quality game you tell yourself "I don't hunt over bait or with a high fence" so you can feel like you did something when you shoot your 150in deer. Truth is you wasted years of owning land and not developing any kind of herd and now you want to criticize people that did.
    Get over yourself and we will keep doing our thing.
     
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    What I said was that all the Texans on this post advicate using bait. ( see my post, I prefaced it by saying "there are a lot of opinions here" which properly restricted the post to this thread and it's opinions.) So, you sir are wrong. I did in no way say that everyone in Texas uses high seat trucks. I always go back to logic and I am sure that there are few things anywhere that all people do. I said it is very common and it is.( And Illegal in most or all other states. )Cat, since you like to cite sources, why do you not find out how many states allow and practice high seat hunting? I would also ask "because it is legal, is it right? I am going to guess with no sources that there are 49 states that do not allow or practice high seat hunting.
    I cited as many sources from scientific journals as anyone else on this thread up to yours after my post, which is none. This is not commonly done on opinion type internet chat. Odd that you would fault me for it and no one else.
    Taylor, would it seem fair to shoot a mean deer with your rifle? Or just a nice one?
    To the guy who is outraged about my comment, buy meat for your family. Why do you take such offense? If you are adaquitly providing for your family, the comment was not intended to you. If you are not, the comment fits. I will not even address your threats other than to say that there are a lot of tough people at the keyboard.
    About what I use, the OP did not ask what we used, he ask about what we thought about baiting. To answer your question, I mostly use the wind.
    I try to address your questins in a civil tone and would hope for the same.
     
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    Cat,
    If you are happy shooting your geneticly modified deer in their pens, have fun, most of us find it repulsive. And I would guess most non hunters do as well. That is where the fight to keep hunting rights will be won or lost, with the non hunters. You have no idea of what deer I have, harvest or let die of old age.
    About not hunting over a corn timed device, I will quote Lindy, a fellow Texan, " I have never used a dildo either, but know I do not want to."
    I have never stated that large deer are not raised in pens and shot at feeders, just that it is not fair chase hunting, which is why the deer are not entered in B&C. They are livestock. Why not raise longhorn cattle and shoot them instead?
    Do you actually get in the pen or shoot through the fence? If you shoot through the fence, do you have a chain link reticule so you do not hit the wire. Might be an idea.
    I am sure I will change few minds so will not waste further time. I would say that most all minds are made up on this.
     
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    I didn't cite any sources, just you.

    You have come in here criticized Texas hunters, laws and ethics.

    Yes this is an opinion forum and you have offered your opinion about Texas(where you don't live or hunt), and hunting over corn feeders that you don't use either. You clearly don't know what you are talking about in any of the matters related to this thread.
    You stick to using the wind and we will use corn.

    I have no problem shooting one in a 10k acre pen.
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rth1800</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

    Cat, since you like to cite sources, why do you not find out how many states allow and practice high seat hunting? I would also ask "because it is legal, is it right? I am going to guess with no sources that there are 49 states that do not allow or practice high seat hunting.
    I cited as many sources from scientific journals as anyone else on this thread up to yours after my post, which is none. This is not commonly done on opinion type internet chat. Odd that you would fault me for it and no one else.

    </div></div>

    I just showed you that there is over 1.3 million acres in Texas that does not allow top drive vehicle hunting or baiting. It is a fact that I am using to quiet your assumptions of the entire state of Texas. You can remove the word Texas out of your mouth and insert another that this topic addresses. For you to use Texas in such a broad generalization makes you look foolish and ignorant. I was just trying to give you the facts that you asked for.



     
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    Cat5,
    In the post where I cited sources that was to Catzass not you. You make statements about my deer herd, of which you do not know a damm thing. If you do state it and how you know? If not I would expect a correction stating you do not know a damm thing about it.
    You make a statement that I do not hunt in Texas. How is it you know this? Or were you talking without knowing the facts again?
    I would also say that most of us have never done the things we consider most reprehensable, I would hope. Have you done the things you despise the most?
     
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    I understand what you're saying. However, in your area and in the Western states in general, you can spot and stalk deer more easily. Many states that allow feeders/food plots etc don't have mountains, let alone hills enough to oversee a thick area. Around my area food is sparse in the open. Wooded areas are so thick with scrub and post oaks that you'd have to belly crawl to get partially through them. Slipping a bullet or arrow into these area's doesn't work well, you need to draw deer out into the edges or open to get a shot.

    Personally, I see it as no different than hunting a well producing White Oak tree, or other mast source in other states.

    I use the feeder to pull an hold deer on the property, and get them into some of the food plots. We don't hunt over the feeders, but it doesn't bother me if people do.
     
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    In Manitoba Canada, baiting is also illegal, I know for a fact that in areas where farmers feed cattle grain on a regular basis you can be guaranteed a 90% chance that deer will be at that area at their usual time once they have developed the habit of eating there. This by no means will guarantee you a trophy animal but if your only after meat then feeding would definitely give you an advantage. there is also a very strong argument in my opinion that this is an unfair advantage, hence it being illegal most places.

    I personally would not conceder someone who uses the feeding method to be a great hunter, I would consider someone who can track, scout and stalk very well and is able to range and place their shots well from various positions at standing or moving targets to be much, much, more of a hunter. To me just sitting and waiting @ the location of a feeder for the animal to return at its prescribed time is not really hunting in my eyes, it more like target practice .

    Regards
     
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    rth..

    threats..?? i dont beleive there were any from me.. was pointing out that, should you use your statements to folks in person and not over the internet, you would find yourself in a bad way.. i in no way became uncivil by saying i was going to kick your ass..key board tough guys? thats funny seeing as you started with "get a better job to get beef".. i dont take offense to that statement on that fact that i need to hunt to eat.. cause i do not.. i take offense to that statement cause there are families that do.. they hunt to feed their families. seeing as all folks arent born into wealth, and are too proud to become a part of the welfare system..being part of the human race i would have hoped you would see and be compassionate with that, but forget feeding folks as you would rather bring in money for more land.

    "Bluntly, I would not look to Texas for morals or ethics in the hunting field"

    nice to see how you would bag on texas morals and make such statements.

    i do apoligise to coldboremiracle for going off topic.but sometimes when you see a douchebag move you have to call douchebag...
     
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    Catzass,
    I was aware that it was not practiced on every tract of land in Texas, but it is common and I said so. Thank you for quantifying it. So how many acres in Texas is it legal on. I am guessing 0ver 90 and likely over 95%.
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rth1800</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cat5,
    In the post where I cited sources that was to Catzass not you. You make statements about my deer herd, of which you do not know a damm thing. If you do state it and how you know? If not I would expect a correction stating you do not know a damm thing about it.
    You make a statement that I do not hunt in Texas. How is it you know this? Or were you talking without knowing the facts again?
    I would also say that most of us have never done the things we consider most reprehensable, I would hope. Have you done the things you despise the most?</div></div>

    The fact is you cannot grow a herd of trophy deer on 3500ac without a high fence to any comparison to a ranch that does. This is not arguable, maybe on a big low fenced ranch but not 3500ac.
     
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    What is your question regarding?
    Taylor, would it seem fair to shoot a mean deer with your rifle? Or just a nice one?

    I'm just saying I've caught alot of grief from avid bow hunters for hunting with a rifle. Doesn't mean I think there is no sport in it. Just syain,"To each his own."
     
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    i agree with taylor "to each his own"

    this is turning into a "what is hunting??" debate.. folks are saying baiting is wrong.. they seem to think that you just put a timed feeder out there and there is a line of trophy sized deer there just waiting.. not the case..

    alot of time is put into their hunting areas, from, maintaining the land, studying overhead photos, trail cams, tracks near watering holes, food plots. bringing in folks to help with varmint control..ect.. just as im sure the rest of the united states does.. we have the added bounus of putting out a feeder..

    get over it...

    does it make it immoral..? why would it.. most of texas is dry, rough , ugly land.. but yet we seem to produce some sweet looking deer.. doesnt sound immoral to me that this much time and effort is put in to maintaining these beautiful animals.

    so folks have blinds up around their feeders.. others have tree stands on the perimeter of corn fields.. or over looking the valley between two hills.. whats the difference..? thats where the deer is going to be.. why would anyone set up where the animal isnt going to be..

    stalking.. i love to stalk.. i prefer it to sitting around.. but there are old hunters and young hunters that cant get around well enough, then there are the knuckleheads you dont want walking through the woods with a loaded weapon. (and every state has these fools). and also there is some rough land around here. try going through mequite brush for a day and come up on some hogs layed out for the day, your in for a fun suprise.. haha

    i dont like high fence areas, but who cares. i dont go on a rampage telling them they are immoral and wrong.. they are not effecting your hunting or threatning your way of life.

    so get over it..