Defiance Long Action Chassis: Warning, Stupid Question

[OzzyO20]

I have a stupid question. I’m looking into a 300 NM build on a Defiance Deviant Action before my smith retires. To match my SA he built, I’d like to use a AICS AX chassis. I know I’ll needs the CIP length chassis. Will the Defiance, or any R 700 Long Action pattern fort that matter, fit a CIP chassis?

I know this is a seemingly stupid question but I don’t wanna find out the hard way lol.

Thanks in advance.

 

[kthomas]

You can order the defiance long action for a CIP cut for the mag - make sure you specify that on the build sheet.

As far as fitting in the chassis, it should, as long as its patterned for rem 700 LA foot print.

 

[OzzyO20]

Thanks guys. Norm at Defiance suggested the CIP mag cut in the bottom. The real confusion for me was CIP chassis VS long action chassis. I know the CIP is magazine related, but I didn't know if the footprint of the action was different for CIP chassis. Never ventured into magnum CIP territory and wanted to get it right before I order anything. I know in the case of Surgeon their XL action requires a special chassis, but it sounds like the Defiance should drop into any 700 LA chassis, and the CIP is the cut for the magazine.

 

[308pirate]

Another stupid question: why is your gunsmith not figuring this out for you?

 

[OzzyO20]

Because I didn't ask him to.

 

[Sonic Crack]

IIRC on Defiance LA, a Seekins mag cut is what they like to use for folks running CIP length mags

 

[OzzyO20]

My real concern, and stupid question, was if the Remington 700 long action footprint works in a CIP length chassis. As in I didn't know if dimensionally the action for a CIP was longer than a Long Action.

Plus the short, medium, and long action thing threw me on the Defiance site. I'm used to Remington 700 actions so I know a short action fits a short action 700 chassis, etc. This will be my first full custom action and CIP cartridge build. So I'm just trying to learn as much as I can before I get going. Yea, I could of had my smith do it all, but I like to understand and learn about what I'm having built.

 

[Dirty D]

Call me crazy buuuuut maybe you could ask Defiance.

 

[OzzyO20]

Call me crazy buuuuut maybe you could ask Defiance.

Norm suggested the CIP cut in the Long Action with the .750" bolt. When I asked about the CIP AICS AX chassis, he said it should work. Seeing as how it'd be months and months to get a stock worked up from Manners, I figured I'd ask here instead of relying on 'should.'

Birddog, thanks again for your input. The main reason I'm going with the Defiance and not a 700 LA are concerns my smith has about how thin the bolt face is with a R700 LA with a Lapua bolt face. He also had some concerns about the recoil lug. He felt like overall a custom action build around a bigger bolt would be the safest/best route to go.

I just didn't know if a long action would bolt into a CIP chassis, as silly as that sound. I know it's more about the mag cut I the chassis and mag length you gain with CIP, but in the off chance that it was also a larger action, I wanted to make sure.