Did they just steal a senate seat in AZ?
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Yep. Posted on it in the other thread.
They have no morals or compunction when it comes to cheating, lying and stealing votes.
They have no morals or compunction when it comes to cheating, lying and stealing votes.
Makes me sick. We're circling the drain here with all the Cali sludge that's moved here recently... 
Yeah, start showing up in force, with numbers. Protest. Call the gov, meet with him, take lots of people with you, record the conversation, make your voice heard. If that doesn’t work, do what the left does. Seriously. You got to take a stand somewhere. Hell, I might just buy a ticket and join you. I’d love for that to go down here. The good old boys would be at the governors house tonight, guaranteed. Quit ranting and start organizing. You can start with members here in the board.
Vote from the roof tops. Or hedge rows. Or whatever.
All the dogshit political views from NYC, Chicago, and Cali seem to have flooded us here in AZ. Plus, the dumbass republican candidates here can't seem to grasp the simple 'go for the independent voters as well' strategy. I moved from Illinois to get away from this junk...
Liberals are like roaches. They move into an area, fuck it up and move on to greener pastures. Repeat cycle in new area.
You got a point there. Its not a loss since Flake was such a RINO. Sure would have been nice to see another R pick up the seat. It was a huge battle here. I wonder what the amount of spending was combined on both sides cause I was damn sick and tired of the non stop ads. I sure find it odd that they finally counted all the early vote ballots and they swung heavily Democratic yet the news was saying a week ago that the majority of early ballots (46% R, 28%D, 26% if I recall correctly) were turned in by registered republicans.
Imagine what will happen when the cyst that is California pops. The entire constitution will be lost. How brave and new the country will be then.
I grew up in NE Arizona and saw this slowly happening for 20 years, even in the rural area where I lived. Later moved to Idaho panhandle, it's happening there. Now living in Utah, it's happening here... how long before the numbers overcome us here?
At least when John Kyle's seat go up for auction, the governor will likely appoint another republican... but it isn't the consolation I was looking for. Seriously, our newest senator openly protested against our military in a pink dress and called AZ the methlab of democracy. Makes me proud. FFS...
That woman is a disgrace without even considering she is a politician. If you look at the latest group of liberal garbage to be elected they are truly the dregs of society BUT what can you expect from the people that vote for them?
This isn’t how it was supposed to be. Once upon a correct period in time, the senate seats were appointed by the state as the senate is the STATES representation in the federal government. The protectors of states rights. They were never supposed to be elected by the people. That’s what the house is.
The 17th amendment needs to be repealed.
There would be a republican super majority of this were the case. It was designed this way for a reason and changed so the socialist can push their agenda and destroy states rights.
The 17th amendment needs to be repealed.
There would be a republican super majority of this were the case. It was designed this way for a reason and changed so the socialist can push their agenda and destroy states rights.
By the legislature ... State House and Senate groups; or, the corrupt political apparatus, if you prefer.
The race was still too close to call when McSally conceded, with the division trending larger against her
There is some speculation that this deal was Republican inspired. McCain's replacement, Jon Kyl, has commented previously that he has no intent to retain the seat beyond December, and has commented on McSally's suitability as his replacement. As things stand, it's an open secret that Gov. Ducey is leaning heavily toward an appointment in such a direction.
When one weighs that Sinema replaces Flake, a RINO, and McSally replaces McCain, another RINO, the overall balance shifts by one seat toward the conservatives, so the election still had the desired outcome.
It's not what most of us Republican voters intended, and it yields a Senate seat to what many of us voters consider a fatally flawed candidate, but Republican Senate gains, and the prospect of a long and drawn out, seriously hostile recount process gets averted. We don't like what happened, but sometimes the best thing is to know when we're beaten and count our remaining blessings; something the Democrats have yet to figure out.
Personally, I think that Sinema's extreme character will weigh heavily on the Democrats, and that her likely self destruction will lead to a single term legacy. She's in, but probably as an extremist liberal disappointment, even to her own party. She will likely serve as an example of just how inappropriate it an be when pandering to the extremely diverse.
In the end, I think her 'victory' will cost the Democrats even more seats in future elections when the more moderate Democrats take back their party, especially in this unique moment when her electoral victory will now remain forever in doubt.
There is little doubt in my own mind that these days of liberal extremism are reaching the ultimate extent of democracy's swinging pendulum. Whether by peaceful means or not, I believe that Trump's actual accomplishments signal a turn in the directions of fiscal sanity and institutional reliability.
The Republic still stands.
Greg
There is some speculation that this deal was Republican inspired. McCain's replacement, Jon Kyl, has commented previously that he has no intent to retain the seat beyond December, and has commented on McSally's suitability as his replacement. As things stand, it's an open secret that Gov. Ducey is leaning heavily toward an appointment in such a direction.
When one weighs that Sinema replaces Flake, a RINO, and McSally replaces McCain, another RINO, the overall balance shifts by one seat toward the conservatives, so the election still had the desired outcome.
It's not what most of us Republican voters intended, and it yields a Senate seat to what many of us voters consider a fatally flawed candidate, but Republican Senate gains, and the prospect of a long and drawn out, seriously hostile recount process gets averted. We don't like what happened, but sometimes the best thing is to know when we're beaten and count our remaining blessings; something the Democrats have yet to figure out.
Personally, I think that Sinema's extreme character will weigh heavily on the Democrats, and that her likely self destruction will lead to a single term legacy. She's in, but probably as an extremist liberal disappointment, even to her own party. She will likely serve as an example of just how inappropriate it an be when pandering to the extremely diverse.
In the end, I think her 'victory' will cost the Democrats even more seats in future elections when the more moderate Democrats take back their party, especially in this unique moment when her electoral victory will now remain forever in doubt.
There is little doubt in my own mind that these days of liberal extremism are reaching the ultimate extent of democracy's swinging pendulum. Whether by peaceful means or not, I believe that Trump's actual accomplishments signal a turn in the directions of fiscal sanity and institutional reliability.
The Republic still stands.
Greg
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She might, but she may also point a new way for extremists to gain seats in less extreme constituencies. Her campaign was a fabric of lies and deception, painting her as the moderate she never was, and never intended to be. Backed enormously by dark money, it proved a successful strategy.
The thing here is that they can fool some of the people some of the time, but for the unbrainwashed, it has a limited effectiveness. Recognize that they did not penetrate the either the Republican voting base or the traditional Democratic base. All they really did was to energize some (and not that many) new voters, at a huge cost per vote. That's a path to diminishing returns that only worked because her campaign invested so hugely in the primaries, eliminating moderate Democratic alternatives, and depriving loyal Democratic voters of a more reasonable candidate.
Also, there was a green candidate who took 2% of the vote, a far larger segment than the actual dividing percentage.
I'm doubtful that a similar context will occur very often, or that the strategy will be cost effective to the donors. In point of fact, all that money helped, but I don't think it assured any outcome that could be worth repetition.
And..., Bloomberg and Soros are not going to live forever.
Greg
The thing here is that they can fool some of the people some of the time, but for the unbrainwashed, it has a limited effectiveness. Recognize that they did not penetrate the either the Republican voting base or the traditional Democratic base. All they really did was to energize some (and not that many) new voters, at a huge cost per vote. That's a path to diminishing returns that only worked because her campaign invested so hugely in the primaries, eliminating moderate Democratic alternatives, and depriving loyal Democratic voters of a more reasonable candidate.
Also, there was a green candidate who took 2% of the vote, a far larger segment than the actual dividing percentage.
I'm doubtful that a similar context will occur very often, or that the strategy will be cost effective to the donors. In point of fact, all that money helped, but I don't think it assured any outcome that could be worth repetition.
And..., Bloomberg and Soros are not going to live forever.
Greg
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"Here campaign was a fabric of lies and deception, painting her as the moderate she never was, and never intended to be. Backed enormously by dark money, it proved a successful strategy. "
This is the new strategy for Dems in swing districts, the stealth progressive candidate. Pose as a moderate middle of the road candidate regardless of their radical views since a compliant press will be all to happy to not seek the truth and parrot the Dem line.
This is the new strategy for Dems in swing districts, the stealth progressive candidate. Pose as a moderate middle of the road candidate regardless of their radical views since a compliant press will be all to happy to not seek the truth and parrot the Dem line.
That sounds very similar to Obama's platform the first time he ran for POTUS. I remember people saying he was going to be a more centrist candidate and my only comments was - nope, look at his voting record.
I think that if we looked closely at last Tuesday it would be apparent that the methodology used in AZ was actually used in most close elections. That sounds a lot like what happened in GA and FL.
We gained, that's enough for me. The next election is not here yet. Fight today's fight today, and tomorrow's tomorrow.
What is here now is the debrief on the dirty tricks, and the plan that defuses then next time around.
I also think exposing the dirty dealers and their tricks is both needed badly, and very unlikely to come about.
Oh well, we get what we earn.
Greg
What is here now is the debrief on the dirty tricks, and the plan that defuses then next time around.
I also think exposing the dirty dealers and their tricks is both needed badly, and very unlikely to come about.
Oh well, we get what we earn.
Greg
I firmly believe all this shit is a dry run to see what they can get away with. So in 2020 the will be in a position to do it where needed to ensure victory.
Agreed! And what’s to stop them from stealing every election from here on out. If this stuff increases it will be super evident of foul play and I truly hope people will see the light at that point and this shit will stop. If it doesn’t cease then we have to protect the republic. People better start waking up and demanding some semblance of law and order again in this country otherwise the republic is truly gone.
If you look, Texas is getting a little purple too thanks to the influx of new people.
Figure it out fellas, if Tx goes the presidential elections are done. NY, Cal, Ill, Tx, the entire NE down to NJ, PA and you’re pretty much done. There just aren’t that many “trumps’ in the GOP to stir up the vote.
Figure it out fellas, if Tx goes the presidential elections are done. NY, Cal, Ill, Tx, the entire NE down to NJ, PA and you’re pretty much done. There just aren’t that many “trumps’ in the GOP to stir up the vote.
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