Dillon 550B question...

K_4c

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    I'm considering picking up a Dillon 550B strictly for .223 and 9mm....

    My question is this:
    The local sporting good store (scheels) has one for $370. After paying for the initial cost of the press what other expenses will I incur? I'm more concerned with Dillon specific items (ie conversion kits, etc) to make the press operational. I already have my dies (I've been reloading on a single stage press for some time).
     
    Re: Dillon 550B question...

    If you already have the essentials and dies you need, nothing beyond which ever conversion it did not come with. Now, there are other items you may want; strong mount, roller handle, casefeed, bullet tray, LED light...
     
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    what conversion kit does it come with? and of the items listed at the end of your paragraph, what do you recommend as an essential upgrade?
     
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    That would be an EXCELLENT price!!

    Buy it

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jlaw973</div><div class="ubbcode-body">By the price your saying, I'd say it does't come with any conversion. If it does, that's a pretty good price. </div></div>
     
    Re: Dillon 550B question...

    At that price the press probably doesn't include a conversion kit. You can buy the 550b without a kit and it's fairly close to that price on Dillon's site. The presses can come with any conversion kit offered for the 550b, so ask and don't be surprised if it doesn't have one. The kits are $45.95 + tax each. When I worked at a Dillon dealer, we would stock the common conversion kits and 550 machines without conversion kits (plus all of the individual parts for kits). This way we could sell the machine at the "no conversion" price or put together any conversion the customer desired for the "with conversion" price.

    Keep in mind that you can buy individual conversion kit parts since there is much crossover. For example a .45 acp kit works for .308 with just a powder funnel swap, saving you 20-30 bucks. There is a helpful chart in the back of the 550b manual showing which shellplates, funnels and locator buttons go with which.

    Strong mounts are great for short work benches, but aren't really necessary for a taller one. The 550 works fine bolted to the edge of a bench, and that's how I use mine.

    The roller handle is a great comfort item. I prefer (and use) the aluminum one with the round handle over the plastic handle model with a more triangular shape.

    If you're hand weighing powder charges, get the AT500 powder die and funnel setup.
    https://www.dillonprecision.com/content/p/9/pid/23631/catid/4/AT_500_Powder_Die
    https://www.dillonprecision.com/content/p/9/pid/23633/catid/3/Plastic_Funnel

    Definitely grab a few extra toolheads.

    If you are crimping, buy some lee factory crimp dies (or whichever one you prefer) and use your old seat/crimp die as a seater only (assuming you haven't done so already)

    Spare powder throwers are great, but expensive.
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TheRedHorseman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">At that price the press probably doesn't include a conversion kit. You can buy the 550b without a kit and it's fairly close to that price on Dillon's site. The presses can come with any conversion kit offered for the 550b, so ask and don't be surprised if it doesn't have one. The kits are $45.95 + tax each. When I worked at a Dillon dealer, we would stock the common conversion kits and 550 machines without conversion kits (plus all of the individual parts for kits). This way we could sell the machine at the "no conversion" price or put together any conversion the customer desired for the "with conversion" price.

    Keep in mind that you can buy individual conversion kit parts since there is much crossover. For example a .45 acp kit works for .308 with just a powder funnel swap, saving you 20-30 bucks. There is a helpful chart in the back of the 550b manual showing which shellplates, funnels and locator buttons go with which.

    Strong mounts are great for short work benches, but aren't really necessary for a taller one. The 550 works fine bolted to the edge of a bench, and that's how I use mine.

    The roller handle is a great comfort item. I prefer (and use) the aluminum one with the round handle over the plastic handle model with a more triangular shape.

    If you're hand weighing powder charges, get the AT500 powder die and funnel setup.
    https://www.dillonprecision.com/content/p/9/pid/23631/catid/4/AT_500_Powder_Die
    https://www.dillonprecision.com/content/p/9/pid/23633/catid/3/Plastic_Funnel

    Definitely grab a few extra toolheads.

    If you are crimping, buy some lee factory crimp dies (or whichever one you prefer) and use your old seat/crimp die as a seater only (assuming you haven't done so already)

    Spare powder throwers are great, but expensive. </div></div>

    I appreciate the feedback. Great info!
     
    Re: Dillon 550B question...

    I almost forgot about the cheapest and best upgrade for any Dillon machine:

    McMaster-Carr part number 94052A243. Rosette knob for a 5/16" screw. It slips (tightly) onto the adjustment bolt for the powder bar and allows you to hand adjust the charge rather than using a wrench.
     
    Re: Dillon 550B question...

    I verified via phone call... the price I had is w/o any conversion and was priced $379.89.

    My question now, is the 550b worth the $500 I'll have in it?
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I verified via phone call... the price I had is w/o any conversion and was priced $379.89.

    My question now, is the 550b worth the $500 I'll have in it? </div></div>

    I love my 550 more so than the 1050 I own. Don't get me wrong there are things that are great about the 1050, but the 550 is all around workhorse. Brian Enos has the 550 for $439.99 including the conversion. They are also free shipping and depending on if you live you won't need to pay tax on it. I don't regret spending any money on the dillon. Straight up very happy with dillon period.
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gosu</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I verified via phone call... the price I had is w/o any conversion and was priced $379.89.

    My question now, is the 550b worth the $500 I'll have in it? </div></div>

    I love my 550 more so than the 1050 I own. Don't get me wrong there are things that are great about the 1050, but the 550 is all around workhorse. Brian Enos has the 550 for $439.99 including the conversion. They are also free shipping and depending on if you live you won't need to pay tax on it. I don't regret spending any money on the dillon. Straight up very happy with dillon period. </div></div>

    Can you provide me a link? I think I'll go that way.... Thanks bud!
     
    Re: Dillon 550B question...

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I verified via phone call... the price I had is w/o any conversion and was priced $379.89.

    My question now, is the 550b worth the $500 I'll have in it?</div></div>

    Absolutely

    I got mine from Brian Enos, it came as the "As it should be" package. The total was a little over $750, it was absolutely worth it
     
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    unless your shooting a "HELL OF A LOT" get the 550B and be done with it . as in Brian's noted it takes time to clear a problem with the 650 . the 1050 starts at around $1650 and you dont need it .
    I have had 3 of the 550's now and there a great machine . more than likely when its all done you be at $800-$900 by the time your get all the items that you need . BUT with that said it will last yo a life time and I have my original fromt eh 80's

    Bill
     
    Re: Dillon 550B question...

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wingnut49b</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You won't regret a 550. That will do a ton, and is easy to work with. I'm guessing you'll load precision ammo on it too once you read more threads and start weighing powder instead of throwing.
    </div></div>

    I'll most likely stick to my single stage press in conjunction with my chargemaster.... just need it for high volume calibers.
     
    Re: Dillon 550B question...

    IMHO, once you have the 550 up and running, you'll be finding fewer and fewer things to do with your single stage.

    I started with the 550 roughly 20 years ago. Never had a single stage. Never missed one.

    Greg
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Greg Langelius *</div><div class="ubbcode-body">IMHO, once you have the 550 up and running, you'll be finding fewer and fewer things to do with your single stage.

    I started with the 550 roughly 20 years ago. Never had a single stage. Never missed one.

    Greg</div></div>

    I couldn't agree more, I switched over to a 550 this year for my rifle rounds and it has been awesome! I am getting the same accuracy as I did when I used my single stage and chargemaster to load and I am doing in less time
     
    Re: Dillon 550B question...

    No, it does not; and 550 users won't hesitate to admit it.

    I assume from the start that the charge will not be consistent to LR Comp requirements and adjust the drop so charge weights will always fall on the higher side of the desired weight. I then dump the caseload into the scale pan, pinch out enough to be 'under' and finger/thumb trickle powder back into the pan until it registers the ideal weight.

    The excess get dropped back into the hopper, the pan gets dumped back into the case using a drop tube, the case gets reinserted back into the baseplate slot and advanced. Repeat as needed.

    The resulting charge is at least as accurate as any other method available.

    Yes, it seems like a lot of work. But honestly, if you're not weighing your charges anyway, are you really making ammo to match tolerances? I know I am.

    One exercise I've begun is to disassemble Russian 7.62x54R steel case spamcan Light Ball surplus ammo using a collet puller. I then reassemble it using the Dillon measure set to a documented ideal charge weight, with no individual weighing attempted. The resulting charges, randomly check weighed, are more consistent than factory (PPU) match ammo, and shoot as well out of my 91/30 with iron sights as I can shoot with my match conditioned Garand using match handloads.

    The powder leaves residue like charcoal, the priming is corrosive, and the Berdan primed soft steel cases are not reloadable. But the bullets appear well made with s decent BC, and when the charges are properly metered, the ammo shoots first rate. The experiment has left my with a surprisingly high opinion of Russian military surplus rifles and ammo. The 550 has made the effort to recombine the ammo to good tolerances into a reasonably feasible task.

    Greg
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No shit? the 550 throws a charge just as accurate as the chargemaster?

    That may free up some funds if that's the case. </div></div>

    I LOVE my 550. However, the charge it throws is not nearly as good as a chargemaster. I fixed that by buying the oversized powder die and funnel and just manually pour the powder charges from my chargemaster. Problem solved!
     
    Re: Dillon 550B question...

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m1garand30064</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No shit? the 550 throws a charge just as accurate as the chargemaster?

    That may free up some funds if that's the case. </div></div>

    I LOVE my 550. However, the charge it throws is not nearly as good as a chargemaster. I fixed that by buying the oversized powder die and funnel and just manually pour the powder charges from my chargemaster. Problem solved! </div></div>

    I just cut the top off an extra powder die, hit it with a file to kill the burr and make it pretty, and then set a loading funnel in it. The case mouth lifts the funnel up at the top of the upstroke a little, and I pour in the chargemaster measured load.

    In the end, it's fast and still very accurate.
     
    Re: Dillon 550B question...

    Your going to love the 550. Workhorse. Also excellant customer service if you have any issue. My seating for my 7mm mag was within .004 or better every time. However, there is no substitute for a chargemaster.

    Progressive loading, you will need to understand how movement(vibrations) affect your charge of powder. If you skip a step due to primer not going in correctly etc. U may notice the powder could be a little heavy due to settling into the powderbar. I learned this the hard way. I also use a rubberband around the end of the powderbar and very base of the powder dispenser. This helps with more consistant retracting of the powderbar. Enjoy your 550. Great machine!

    John L.
     
    Re: Dillon 550B question...

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m1garand30064</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No shit? the 550 throws a charge just as accurate as the chargemaster?

    That may free up some funds if that's the case. </div></div>

    I LOVE my 550. However, the charge it throws is not nearly as good as a chargemaster. I fixed that by buying the oversized powder die and funnel and just manually pour the powder charges from my chargemaster. Problem solved! </div></div>

    +1 great way to go.