Does anyone know if those container ships are to large to go though the Panama Canal ? And why don’t they bring ship to Atlantic ports.
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SubscribeWhich container ships are we talking about?Does anyone know if those container ships are to large to go though the Panama Canal ? And why don’t they bring ship to Atlantic ports.
Well Don-n-Texas, lets noodle through this. Maybe it is because they have teams of logistics people who are paid to work the math based on actual figures, and are not reliant on the collective wisdom of the hide to net-source a solution. That is what I was implying. Alas, I had to explain it.There question was not did they think of it. The question was why they didn’t do it. hlee it was for the smarter people on the forum
That was a generally stupid comment. The original post implied that something new has happened to some certain ship or ships. Other than that those ships have been camped out around the West coast for going on two years.The ones that are in the water.
What would work a hell of a lot better is diversifying our supply chain away from China. It will be cheaper, work better, and be a lot more secure. Plus no digging.What would work is a new shipping channel cut along the southern borderline of CA,AZ,NM and TX. Deep and wide for multiple shipping lanes and would act as a moat for the illegals.
*you’re*hlee just remember your not smart enough to answer posts.
Spawning another business where CA emmissions compliant trucks get containers to the boarder, where they are transferred to CONUS(minus)CA emmissions compliant trucks for the remainder of their journey...Believe me if those ships could get through the canal and get unloaded on the East coast they would. These are estimates- 1200'X160'X50', about 120,000 dead weight tons is Panama Canal maximum which is considered a medium size container ship, about 12,000 containers. I believe many of the ships that will fit through the Panama canal by length and width (beam) won't fit because of maximum depth (draft) is 50' and would need to unload containers to fit through.
A trucker friend recently told me that soon his truck and most other trucks that can travel to every other state will not be able to make California emissions laws.
First picture is a Canal max ship except it has too much draft. Second picture each square represents a ship waiting to be offloaded just in Long Beach CaliforniaBelieve me if those ships could get through the canal and get unloaded on the East coast they would. These are estimates- 1200'X160'X50', about 120,000 dead weight tons is Panama Canal maximum which is considered a medium size container ship, about 12,000 containers. I believe many of the ships that will fit through the Panama canal by length and width (beam) won't fit because of maximum depth (draft) is 50' and would need to unload containers to fit through.
A trucker friend recently told me that soon his truck and most other trucks that can travel to every other state will not be able to make California emissions laws.
What would work is if we forced the lazy fucks in this country off the couch, get people back to work, and make our shit in out own fuckin country.That was a generally stupid comment. The original post implied that something new has happened to some certain ship or ships. Other than that those ships have been camped out around the West coast for going on two years.
What would work a hell of a lot better is diversifying our supply chain away from China. It will be cheaper, work better, and be a lot more secure. Plus no digging.
Personally I think that's one of the most uneducated comments I've seen in quite a while. I recall back in the early 2000's hundreds of thousands of people being kicked out of work. Entire industries were outsourced and it certainly wasn't voluntary on the part of any employee.What would work is if we forced the lazy fucks in this country off the couch, get people back to work, and make our shit in out own fuckin country.
Yes, that’s what we call the “trade imbalance.” Everything coming in. Nothing going out.
*you'rehlee just remember your not smart enough to answer posts.
Does this bridge you speak of have the ability to handle large amounts of cargo?Personally I think that's one of the most uneducated comments I've seen in quite a while. I recall back in the early 2000's hundreds of thousands of people being kicked out of work. Entire industries were outsourced and it certainly wasn't voluntary on the part of any employee.
The biggest problem by far is that very specific special interests were given essentially immunity from the game by essentially political corruption. That corruption kicked off a massive outflow of companies even by those who did not even want to go. Now you have multi billionaires on one hand and highly qualified people that are essentially out of work on the other.
Is it a problem that people get rich? Nope. I hope to be there myself one day. But HOW they got/get rich is the question. Chelsea Clinton got paid $15 million dollars in a single year within the first year of graduating college. Tell me how that happens. If I get rich because I become a Senator or President and I give in to making special rules for special interests (and they reward me handsomely for such) if I am in on the game your damn right I will play. I want that 400 foot long yacht just like everyone else does.
But is it ok to get rich based off of corruption? If you think that Facebook and Google and Microsoft and others got to where they are by any other means I have a bridge to sell you. That has little to nothing to do with any lazy ass American worker. If you think Section 230 laws are the only thing that happened you are insane. They did that here, plus a ton of other things in regards to international trade that stacked the deck in favor of some and against others to promote corporations and special interests.
That's because no one in the world would've purchased a Ford Pinto, we had to eat all 3 million of them........
Yup, You don't shut down a port, crains, trucking etc. when you have stuff stuck out there "waiting" Causing an interruption in the supply chain. Just another part of the pandemic. Those that don't see that are part of the problem not solutionThis is all political bull
I'm not sure what BRI is but the Chinese are controlling the Canal by owning all the franchises on each end, think tugs, grocery and other supply services, dockage and control of all supply.Problem with the Panama Canal is the chicoms are largely in control of it due to BRI. Also, L.A. Port is controlled (owned?) by the same. Explains some of the causes of the port problems that we are seeing.
BRI=Belt Road Initiative. Their way of taking over the world:I'm not sure what BRI is but the Chinese are controlling the Canal by owning all the franchises on each end, think tugs, grocery and other supply services, dockage and control of all supply.
Wait a minute. I thought California was against having junk floating off their coast?First picture is a Canal max ship except it has too much draft. Second picture each square represents a ship waiting to be offloaded just in Long Beach California
That and I don’t think a large portion of America is lazy. For example, I worked 21 hrs straight yesterday and will likely be nearing that today.Personally I think that's one of the most uneducated comments I've seen in quite a while. I recall back in the early 2000's hundreds of thousands of people being kicked out of work. Entire industries were outsourced and it certainly wasn't voluntary on the part of any employee.
The biggest problem by far is that very specific special interests were given essentially immunity from the game by essentially political corruption. That corruption kicked off a massive outflow of companies even by those who did not even want to go. Now you have multi billionaires on one hand and highly qualified people that are essentially out of work on the other.
Is it a problem that people get rich? Nope. I hope to be there myself one day. But HOW they got/get rich is the question. Chelsea Clinton got paid $15 million dollars in a single year within the first year of graduating college. Tell me how that happens. If I get rich because I become a Senator or President and I give in to making special rules for special interests (and they reward me handsomely for such) if I am in on the game your damn right I will play. I want that 400 foot long yacht just like everyone else does.
But is it ok to get rich based off of corruption? If you think that Facebook and Google and Microsoft and others got to where they are by any other means I have a bridge to sell you. That has little to nothing to do with any lazy ass American worker. If you think Section 230 laws are the only thing that happened you are insane. They did that here, plus a ton of other things in regards to international trade that stacked the deck in favor of some and against others to promote corporations and special interests.
OP, great question
You sir, are the exception.That and I don’t think a large portion of America is lazy. For example, I worked 21 hrs straight yesterday and will likely be nearing that today.
To answer your question , yes the ships can fit , but I'm not sure that some of our members here could get there ego through it !Does anyone know if those container ships are to large to go though the Panama Canal ? And why don’t they bring ship to Atlantic ports.
Actually, many won't. They are designated "panamax" and by-design only travel trans-pacific routes. Same with many military boats, specifically US aircraft-carriers.To answer your question , yes the ships can fit , but I'm not sure that some of our members here could get there ego through it !
Thanks for proving my point !Actually, many won't. They are designated "panamax" and by-design only travel trans-pacific routes. Same with many military boats, specifically US aircraft-carriers.
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Having crossed the Southern Ocean, I wonder how many containers would be left when the ship rolls 45 degrees in the 50' seas?They should put the navigator under the lash and TAKE THEM AROUND THE HORN! Unless they are all cowards……. Lol sorry, I love me the movie The Bounty.