Dont try and legitimize your BS because you are an EX Marine

[pmclaine]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dment-interpreted-wrong-claims-historian.html

Just one part of the article lets me know this dip shit did no real investigation......

"Charles accuses NRA chairman Wayne LaPierre of 'rewriting history' and says the Founding Fathers would consider modern day gun owners to be an 'armed mob', in his book that was released Thursday"

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Really. I think if the Founding Fathers had people to work with that are as well trained as the people I see at my range the Revolution would have been over in weeks.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Mueller is an Ex Marine

 

[L.R.Novice]

Luckily, the Supreme Court has interpreted the meaning of a well armed militia we don’t have to rely on this historian’s flawed theory.

 

[pmclaine]

Mueller is an Ex Marine

Another guy using something good to legitimize his doing something bad.

 

[jrassy]

Follow the money, who funded him while he wrote this book? And there are plenty of dirt bags in the MC, wonder what his MOS was.

 

[pmclaine]

Damn he was MSG.

BIOGRAPHY
Patrick J. Charles is the historian of the 24th Special Operations Wing of the U.S. Air Force and was a legal analyst for the Immigration Reform Law Institute (IRLI) in Washington, D.C. Among his books are The Second Amendment: The Intent and Its Interpretation by the States and the Supreme Court (2009), which examines the contentions of individual right theorists and collective right theorists and concludes that the Second Amendment is meant only to protect the right of an individual to keep and bear arms for the purpose of defending the country. He has also authored numerous publications on the Second Amendment and gun regulation that were relied on in the English/early American historians' amici curiae brief in McDonald v. City of Chicago, including The Right of Self-Preservation and Resistance: A True Legal and Historical Understanding of the Anglo-American Right to Arms, 2010 Cardozo L. Rev. De Novo 18 (2010) and "Arms For Their Defence"?: An Historical, Legal, and Textual Analysis of the English Right to Have Arms and Whether the Second Amendment Should Be Incorporated in McDonald v. City of Chicago, 57 Clev. St. L. Rev. 351 (2009). Charles received a bachelor's degree in history from George Washington University and a J.D. from Cleveland-Marshall School of Law. He was a sergeant in the United States Marine Corps and proudly served in Marine Security Guard Detachments in Paris, France, and Shanghai, China.

https://www.britannica.com/contributor/Patrick-J-Charles/7822641

 

[ArmyJerry]

well, he has an opinion, thats his right , wont blae the marine corps for him, however , I will blame the MC for not fragging Mueller.

 

[308pirate]

Fuck his scholarship and his service. Want my guns motherfucker? Come for them ready to die.

 

[sandwarrior]

It annoys the shit out of me that those "alternative historians" we have now forget so, so, so, much. Like what did Yamamoto warn his fellow Japanese about when they went to war with us? "There is a rifle behind every blade of grass." And the list goes on, how many countries know they will not only have to confront our military, but it's citizens as well.

And this bullshit of "guns are for national defense only" is bullshit. It's for defense. We've been armed since this country's inception and that's what it's always meant. Now the gun grabbers are putting up their alternative history bullshit.

p.s. The first gun control in this country was NOT in 1911, it was in the 1840's. Crooked politicians wanted to make sure the populace was unarmed.

 

[sandwarrior]

FWIW, another thought. Look who's doing the most bitching about guns? The elite...the people who wouldn't let their populaces own guns and use them before they came here. Nobles only... Fuck them.

 

[EddieNFL]

Patrick J. Charles

is the historian of the 24th Special Operations Wing of the U.S. Air Force

I know a number of folks in the 24th including the last Command Chief. Curious to hear what they know about this guy.

 

[pmclaine]

I know a number of folks in the 24th including the last Command Chief. Curious to hear what they know about this guy.

I'm sure he thinks he is the smartest guy in whatever room he walks in to.

A great book....

https://www.ebay.com/i/322998493703...3D711-117182-37290-0%26rvr_id%3D1425153758319

Everyone should read it.

 

[...]

Why do people act like the constitution is written in some secret cryptic code that requires historians and professionals to "interpret"....?

It is literally written in the most plain and blatant english of any legal document ive ever seen.

"...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

That is so simple even my dyslexic ass can ubderstand that.

If they wanted it to read " the right of HIGHLY TRAINED people to keep and bear arms..." they would have fucking written that way.

 

[ArmyJerry]

I just said this same exact thing, its in plain english so we don't need anyone to interpret it, let alone indoctrinated lawers from the democrat or republican private company. anytime someone starts to interpret what is written, they are up to no good. the more they i"interpret" the higher the crime they are about to commit.

Why do people act like the constitution is written in some secret cryptic code that requires historians and professionals to "interpret"....?

It is literally written in the most plain and blatant english of any legal document ive ever seen.

"...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

That is so simple even my dyslexic ass can ubderstand that.

If they wanted it to read " the right of HIGHLY TRAINED people to keep and bear arms..." they would have fucking written that way.

 

[DannC]

So where is this well trained militia supposed to get their guns?

 

[Danrobberg]

My son is in third grade and learning about government. He asked me why does one branch make laws and then another branch interpret those laws? Didn’t the branch that made the them know what they meant and what they wanted to be? I struggled to find a good answer for him.

 

[ArmyJerry]

the answer is most of the laws today are unconstitutional and have to be "interpreted".

 

[Danrobberg]

Hard to argue with that. Especially living in a state like New York. But tough to explain to an 8 year old.

 

[sandwarrior]

A good start is to read the Constitution in it's entirety. Not just the Bill of Rights. That gives all the meaning you need to know about what Congress can and should be doing. What they've done right and what they've done wrong. And, how far our rights go. The one thing it never really explains to the citizens of the United States is, that if you want to keep this constitution in force, you have a responsibility to uphold ALL of it's values, not just the ones you like or agree with.

 

[pmclaine]

This dude gets it where the dumb jarhead let politics poison his unscholarly research.....

http://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2018/02/01/a-well-regulated-militia-private-gun-ownership/

 

[Bender]

Fuck his scholarship and his service. Want my guns motherfucker? Come for them ready to die.

Can I buy you a burger? Hi five.....

 

[Bender]

I’m here sitting waiting for Lexington PT II,

let’s cut fence and sort some bastards out.....

 

[EddieNFL]

Tracked him down. No longer with the 24th. Now works at HQ AFSOC. According to a couple of friends there he's as whacked as Bernie Sanders. Why anyone with such ideologies would want to be associated with the military is beyond my grasp.

 

[pmclaine]

Tracked him down. No longer with the 24th. Now works at HQ AFSOC. According to a couple of friends there he's as whacked as Bernie Sanders. Why anyone with such ideologies would want to be associated with the military is beyond my grasp.

Why the military allows such anti freedom dummies in their midst surprises me.

His friggen research isnt even right.

I guess if you want to hire someone to get it wrong he is your man.

Thanks for the update.

Have your friends tell him to come here and explain to me this Thomas Paine passage....

"The peaceable part of mankind will be continually overrun by the vile and abandoned while they neglect the means of self defense.

The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms like the laws discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property.

The balance of power is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside.....Horrid mischief would ensue were one half the world deprived of the use of them....the weak will become prey to the strong."


Sounds like an individual right to me.

 

[lash]

Socialists and despots need a military too. There are always those that wait in the wings to step in should their chance to gain more power come about.

 

[Rthur]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dment-interpreted-wrong-claims-historian.html

Just one part of the article lets me know this dip shit did no real investigation......

"Charles accuses NRA chairman Wayne LaPierre of 'rewriting history' and says the Founding Fathers would consider modern day gun owners to be an 'armed mob', in his book that was released Thursday"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ted-wrong-claims-historian.html#ixzz55FoZZq6w
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Really. I think if the Founding Fathers had people to work with that are as well trained as the people I see at my range the Revolution would have been over in weeks.

Applying for a government job with a D attached?

R

 

[The King]

Don't all government jobs come with the D? Oh, you meant something else.

If you ever want to really know what the founding fathers meant...just study the fucking Federalist Papers. You know, the massive text they themselves wrote to support their positions...