if i may ask is a Douglass XX barrel right up there with brux bartlein and all the others or not on the same level?
douglass barrels
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Re: douglass barrels
My boss is big on the .17 caliber shooting and he took his rifle down to their shop for a rebarrel. He's been pretty happy with his and got me considering having them do a .260 for me. I highly doubt that you could compare them with a bartlein but 425 for a rebarrel sounds pretty reasonable.
My boss is big on the .17 caliber shooting and he took his rifle down to their shop for a rebarrel. He's been pretty happy with his and got me considering having them do a .260 for me. I highly doubt that you could compare them with a bartlein but 425 for a rebarrel sounds pretty reasonable.
Re: douglass barrels
i want a bartlein..... but i found a douglass XX and im curious how they compare
im going from a stock remington 700 sps varmit.... to either the bartlein or possibly the douglas XX... so either way its going to be night and day....the douglas XX being half the cost of the bartlein is why i ask
i want a bartlein..... but i found a douglass XX and im curious how they compare
im going from a stock remington 700 sps varmit.... to either the bartlein or possibly the douglas XX... so either way its going to be night and day....the douglas XX being half the cost of the bartlein is why i ask
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Ive sent 6 or 7 6.5 Creedmoors up to NC for a bunch of guys there, I put a Brux barrel on every one but 1. That guy got wise and sent a douglas barrel down, and from what I hear, he's wishing he got a Brux cause its not running with the other guns. it shoots good, but not <span style="font-style: italic">as good</span>
Ive sent 6 or 7 6.5 Creedmoors up to NC for a bunch of guys there, I put a Brux barrel on every one but 1. That guy got wise and sent a douglas barrel down, and from what I hear, he's wishing he got a Brux cause its not running with the other guns. it shoots good, but not <span style="font-style: italic">as good</span>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bugholes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ive sent 6 or 7 6.5 Creedmoors up to NC for a bunch of guys there, I put a Brux barrel on every one but 1. That guy got wise and sent a douglas barrel down, and from what I hear, he's wishing he got a Brux cause its not running with the other guns. it shoots good, but not <span style="font-style: italic">as good</span> </div></div>
BUGHOLES!!!! JUST THE GUY I WANTED TO TALK TO!!!!!! CHECK YOUR INBOX
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bugholes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ive sent 6 or 7 6.5 Creedmoors up to NC for a bunch of guys there, I put a Brux barrel on every one but 1. That guy got wise and sent a douglas barrel down, and from what I hear, he's wishing he got a Brux cause its not running with the other guns. it shoots good, but not <span style="font-style: italic">as good</span> </div></div>
BUGHOLES!!!! JUST THE GUY I WANTED TO TALK TO!!!!!! CHECK YOUR INBOX
Re: douglass barrels
Douglas shows up on the winner's equipment page as much as any of them.
If evidence is your thing.
Douglas shows up on the winner's equipment page as much as any of them.
If evidence is your thing.
Re: douglass barrels
I've had Douglas barrels on three 358 WSSM's. all have been easy to shoot 1MOA. Which is plenty good for a 300 yard max hunting rifle.
I also had IT&D rebarrel a Kimber Montana 257 Roberts to 243 AI with a Douglas SS XX contoured to dupe the factory barrel. Only have 50 rounds through it, mainly to fire form brass, but its showing great promise - several of the last 3 shot groups 100 yard groups were 7/8".
I've had Douglas barrels on three 358 WSSM's. all have been easy to shoot 1MOA. Which is plenty good for a 300 yard max hunting rifle.
I also had IT&D rebarrel a Kimber Montana 257 Roberts to 243 AI with a Douglas SS XX contoured to dupe the factory barrel. Only have 50 rounds through it, mainly to fire form brass, but its showing great promise - several of the last 3 shot groups 100 yard groups were 7/8".
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I've shot Douglass XX barrels in the early 90s in 308 and 300 win mag, all shot like my Bartleins. I was using a custom action on all of them. I can't complain or say anything bad. I think they make an excellent barrel. Maybe just old school now. Douglas, shilen, rock, Krieger, hs precision, and a few others were the choices. Until the last few years, we just got some new makers. I still have one sitting in my safe next to a Shilen I will use to rebuild the same 300 win.
I've shot Douglass XX barrels in the early 90s in 308 and 300 win mag, all shot like my Bartleins. I was using a custom action on all of them. I can't complain or say anything bad. I think they make an excellent barrel. Maybe just old school now. Douglas, shilen, rock, Krieger, hs precision, and a few others were the choices. Until the last few years, we just got some new makers. I still have one sitting in my safe next to a Shilen I will use to rebuild the same 300 win.
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I run a Douglas on a 280Ai,284 win,and a 22ppc and they all shoot beyond my level of performance, but so do my GAP 7wsm,284,6 creed, 308, and an APA 308 that are all Bartline's. The 22ppc in a varmint configuration,could be the tightest thing I own,excluding a 6ppc purpose built BR Rig. And the hammer forged TRG....well ..it's a TRG nuff said. Heck,I have a 223 Shilen that I managed a Second in the Mammoth Team match and only left 2 of my half of the secondary targets with.
I am no expert,and I do love me some cut barrels, but I think there is more unicorn poop in an accurate rifle than just who made the barrel.
I run a Douglas on a 280Ai,284 win,and a 22ppc and they all shoot beyond my level of performance, but so do my GAP 7wsm,284,6 creed, 308, and an APA 308 that are all Bartline's. The 22ppc in a varmint configuration,could be the tightest thing I own,excluding a 6ppc purpose built BR Rig. And the hammer forged TRG....well ..it's a TRG nuff said. Heck,I have a 223 Shilen that I managed a Second in the Mammoth Team match and only left 2 of my half of the secondary targets with.
I am no expert,and I do love me some cut barrels, but I think there is more unicorn poop in an accurate rifle than just who made the barrel.
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I've got 2 douglas barrels. One on a .243AI, it does exceptionaly well on something intended as a coyote rifle. It just likes to be run really hard. That barrel is on it's way out jusdging by how the throat looks through the bore scope. The second is on my 404 Jeffery. Not ment to hit a gnats ass at a thoushand, but intended to shoot big stuff that bites, stomps, and gores at spitting distance. That one will be around long after I'm gone.
I've got 2 douglas barrels. One on a .243AI, it does exceptionaly well on something intended as a coyote rifle. It just likes to be run really hard. That barrel is on it's way out jusdging by how the throat looks through the bore scope. The second is on my 404 Jeffery. Not ment to hit a gnats ass at a thoushand, but intended to shoot big stuff that bites, stomps, and gores at spitting distance. That one will be around long after I'm gone.
Re: douglass barrels
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: suburbanhick</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i want a bartlein..... but i found a douglass XX and im curious how they compare
im going from a stock remington 700 sps varmit.... to either the bartlein or possibly the douglas XX... so either way its going to be night and day....the douglas XX being half the cost of the bartlein is why i ask</div></div>
You get what you pay for. How many top rifle builders (SAC, PCR, Gradous, GAP, APA, RWS, etc) use Douglas compared to Bartlein, Krieger, Brux, Rock, etc? If a Bartlein is in stock that suits your needs get it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: suburbanhick</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i want a bartlein..... but i found a douglass XX and im curious how they compare
im going from a stock remington 700 sps varmit.... to either the bartlein or possibly the douglas XX... so either way its going to be night and day....the douglas XX being half the cost of the bartlein is why i ask</div></div>
You get what you pay for. How many top rifle builders (SAC, PCR, Gradous, GAP, APA, RWS, etc) use Douglas compared to Bartlein, Krieger, Brux, Rock, etc? If a Bartlein is in stock that suits your needs get it.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LCDR JGB</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You get what you pay for. How many top rifle builders (SAC, PCR, Gradous, GAP, APA, RWS, etc) use Douglas compared to Bartlein, Krieger, Brux, Rock, etc? </div></div>
I can think of four or five off the top of my head.......they're all Benchrest builders.
Don't know why anyone thinks Douglas barrels are cheap.
The air-gauge selects go for $400, more than I paid for the last Bartlein. Brux and Kreiger also cost less.
You're splitting frog hairs here.......properly chambered they all shoot.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LCDR JGB</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You get what you pay for. How many top rifle builders (SAC, PCR, Gradous, GAP, APA, RWS, etc) use Douglas compared to Bartlein, Krieger, Brux, Rock, etc? </div></div>
I can think of four or five off the top of my head.......they're all Benchrest builders.
Don't know why anyone thinks Douglas barrels are cheap.
The air-gauge selects go for $400, more than I paid for the last Bartlein. Brux and Kreiger also cost less.
You're splitting frog hairs here.......properly chambered they all shoot.
Re: douglass barrels
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LCDR JGB</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: suburbanhick</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i want a bartlein..... but i found a douglass XX and im curious how they compare
im going from a stock remington 700 sps varmit.... to either the bartlein or possibly the douglas XX... so either way its going to be night and day....the douglas XX being half the cost of the bartlein is why i ask</div></div>
You get what you pay for. How many top rifle builders (SAC, PCR, Gradous, GAP, APA, RWS, etc) use Douglas compared to Bartlein, Krieger, Brux, Rock, etc? If a Bartlein is in stock that suits your needs get it. </div></div>
I think the Navy can afford just about anything; you may want to check to see what they use on the MK12's!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LCDR JGB</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: suburbanhick</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i want a bartlein..... but i found a douglass XX and im curious how they compare
im going from a stock remington 700 sps varmit.... to either the bartlein or possibly the douglas XX... so either way its going to be night and day....the douglas XX being half the cost of the bartlein is why i ask</div></div>
You get what you pay for. How many top rifle builders (SAC, PCR, Gradous, GAP, APA, RWS, etc) use Douglas compared to Bartlein, Krieger, Brux, Rock, etc? If a Bartlein is in stock that suits your needs get it. </div></div>
I think the Navy can afford just about anything; you may want to check to see what they use on the MK12's!
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95% of shooters cannot outshoot Douglas barrels. Makes them think and feel like they are in the other 5% though if they pay more!!! Takes a damn good shooter to utilize those better than a Douglas but than it has been mentioned by the real Einstein's on this forum I don't know much!
Have owned and shot more than a dozen and NONE were poor shooters. A smith friend installs almost exclusively Douglas unless his customer requests something other. Of more than 250 Douglas blanks he has only had one that wouldn't shoot under moa!
I currently only have 1 Douglas running in a 6TCU,2 or 3 Kriegers, 3 Rocks, an Oby, Broughton, Border, Noveske and the last a Bartlein. They all shoot better than I.
So I would say you better know what you can really use before you pay for more!!
Just my .02 cents worth!
95% of shooters cannot outshoot Douglas barrels. Makes them think and feel like they are in the other 5% though if they pay more!!! Takes a damn good shooter to utilize those better than a Douglas but than it has been mentioned by the real Einstein's on this forum I don't know much!
Have owned and shot more than a dozen and NONE were poor shooters. A smith friend installs almost exclusively Douglas unless his customer requests something other. Of more than 250 Douglas blanks he has only had one that wouldn't shoot under moa!
I currently only have 1 Douglas running in a 6TCU,2 or 3 Kriegers, 3 Rocks, an Oby, Broughton, Border, Noveske and the last a Bartlein. They all shoot better than I.
So I would say you better know what you can really use before you pay for more!!
Just my .02 cents worth!
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The few I have owned have shot very well! One on an M1A shot as well as the same build with a Kreiger. The other was on a Mauser 98 in 30-06 hunting rifle that would hold 1/2 moa as long as I could with the 4X scope! I dont think they leave anything on the table.
The few I have owned have shot very well! One on an M1A shot as well as the same build with a Kreiger. The other was on a Mauser 98 in 30-06 hunting rifle that would hold 1/2 moa as long as I could with the 4X scope! I dont think they leave anything on the table.
Re: douglass barrels
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SDWhirlwind</div><div class="ubbcode-body">95% of shooters cannot outshoot Douglas barrels. Makes them think and feel like they are in the other 5% though if they pay more!!! Takes a damn good shooter to utilize those better than a Douglas but than it has been mentioned by the real Einstein's on this forum I don't know much!
Have owned and shot more than a dozen and NONE were poor shooters. A smith friend installs almost exclusively Douglas unless his customer requests something other. Of more than 250 Douglas blanks he has only had one that wouldn't shoot under moa!
I currently only have 1 Douglas running in a 6TCU,2 or 3 Kriegers, 3 Rocks, an Oby, Broughton, Border, Noveske and the last a Bartlein. They all shoot better than I.
So I would say you better know what you can really use before you pay for more!!
Just my .02 cents worth! </div></div>
What ^ said, Ive owned 2 douglas barrels one on an early ruger tang safe varmint in 220 swift . pure finish nail driver after 1500 rounds. TBA uses them on his win mod 70 targets.. very best
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SDWhirlwind</div><div class="ubbcode-body">95% of shooters cannot outshoot Douglas barrels. Makes them think and feel like they are in the other 5% though if they pay more!!! Takes a damn good shooter to utilize those better than a Douglas but than it has been mentioned by the real Einstein's on this forum I don't know much!
Have owned and shot more than a dozen and NONE were poor shooters. A smith friend installs almost exclusively Douglas unless his customer requests something other. Of more than 250 Douglas blanks he has only had one that wouldn't shoot under moa!
I currently only have 1 Douglas running in a 6TCU,2 or 3 Kriegers, 3 Rocks, an Oby, Broughton, Border, Noveske and the last a Bartlein. They all shoot better than I.
So I would say you better know what you can really use before you pay for more!!
Just my .02 cents worth! </div></div>
What ^ said, Ive owned 2 douglas barrels one on an early ruger tang safe varmint in 220 swift . pure finish nail driver after 1500 rounds. TBA uses them on his win mod 70 targets.. very best
Re: douglass barrels
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LCDR JGB</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: suburbanhick</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i want a bartlein..... but i found a douglass XX and im curious how they compare
im going from a stock remington 700 sps varmit.... to either the bartlein or possibly the douglas XX... so either way its going to be night and day....the douglas XX being half the cost of the bartlein is why i ask</div></div>
You get what you pay for. How many top rifle builders (SAC, PCR, Gradous, GAP, APA, RWS, etc) use Douglas compared to Bartlein, Krieger, Brux, Rock, etc? If a Bartlein is in stock that suits your needs get it.</div></div>
I believe Melvin Forbes uses Douglas in the NULA.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LCDR JGB</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: suburbanhick</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i want a bartlein..... but i found a douglass XX and im curious how they compare
im going from a stock remington 700 sps varmit.... to either the bartlein or possibly the douglas XX... so either way its going to be night and day....the douglas XX being half the cost of the bartlein is why i ask</div></div>
You get what you pay for. How many top rifle builders (SAC, PCR, Gradous, GAP, APA, RWS, etc) use Douglas compared to Bartlein, Krieger, Brux, Rock, etc? If a Bartlein is in stock that suits your needs get it.</div></div>
I believe Melvin Forbes uses Douglas in the NULA.
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I have had a couple of barrels in both Douglas and Bartlein. I can't say anything bad about the Douglas. However, my Bartlein stay accurate longer and clean much easier, and I feel a lot more confident with the Barltein barrels.
Between Douglas and Bartlein my first choice is Barltein.
I have had a couple of barrels in both Douglas and Bartlein. I can't say anything bad about the Douglas. However, my Bartlein stay accurate longer and clean much easier, and I feel a lot more confident with the Barltein barrels.
Between Douglas and Bartlein my first choice is Barltein.
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Just bought a 8.5 twist .264 blank from them last week, mainly because it was the only one in the profile I wanted and they could have it shipped to me in less than 7 days. Rebarrelling Dad's .264wm, will have details upon finishing the rifle.
Just bought a 8.5 twist .264 blank from them last week, mainly because it was the only one in the profile I wanted and they could have it shipped to me in less than 7 days. Rebarrelling Dad's .264wm, will have details upon finishing the rifle.
