How's the accuracy of this rifle stock in the two calibers mentioned? What can be done to increase accuracy short of changing the barrel to a name brand match barrel?
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DPMS LAR-10 accuracy .308 or 6.5 Creemore
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3 of my friends I got into LR shooting have gone with the DPMS LR (not sure about LAR). And all 3 have been very accurate. They all have the 24" bull bbl and can keep up with several of my bolt guns. I wouldn't hesitate to buy one for range shooting. Thiers are too heavy for me for anything else.
Good Luck!
Good Luck!
I have a LR260 but as far as accuracy goes i dont think it could be beat for the money. I have had very good luck with mine just playing with handloads. I wouldnt say its 1/2 moa all day but i have shot a bunch of groups under 1/2 but if it ever goes over 3/4 moa i know it was my fault. Farthest i have taken it was too 1000 yds with the 123 amax and it handled it well with my 3 shot group of 6.125".
No such thing as an "LAR-10" but if you mean the DPMS LR-308 and/or LR-65 rifles, the more precision-minded offerings from the factory are at least capable of MOA or better accuracy right out of the box with a shooter that knows how to run the rifle correctly, combined with quality commercial ammunition or reloads, and a decent optic/mount.
In terms of improving accuracy, if the factory rifle is NOT one of the ones that comes with an upgraded FCG, then one of the first steps that can be taken is a trigger group upgrade. Pick your poison on this aspect of the rifle, but a quality two-stage (or single stage if that's your thing) trigger group should help to improve accuracy versus any stock, mil-spec FCG. An adjustable gas block to help tune the cycling of the rifle with the particular ammo you end up with will help to not only improve accuracy somewhat, but will also settle down the recoil impulse of what are arguably largely over-gassed factory rifles that are built to run with everything from your basic mil-surplus ammo to factory match fodder. Similarly, not skimping on your rings/mounts/optics will go a long way in getting the most out of the rifle in terms of accuracy. Finally, never underestimate the effect that the individual squeezing the trigger can and WILL have on the accuracy potential of any semi-auto. Even the most accurate custom rifles out there that have the POTENTIAL to shoot sub-MOA or even approach the 1/2 MOA mark on a consistent, repeatable basis won't shoot for @#$% if the nut behind the butt fails to do their part every time.
In terms of improving accuracy, if the factory rifle is NOT one of the ones that comes with an upgraded FCG, then one of the first steps that can be taken is a trigger group upgrade. Pick your poison on this aspect of the rifle, but a quality two-stage (or single stage if that's your thing) trigger group should help to improve accuracy versus any stock, mil-spec FCG. An adjustable gas block to help tune the cycling of the rifle with the particular ammo you end up with will help to not only improve accuracy somewhat, but will also settle down the recoil impulse of what are arguably largely over-gassed factory rifles that are built to run with everything from your basic mil-surplus ammo to factory match fodder. Similarly, not skimping on your rings/mounts/optics will go a long way in getting the most out of the rifle in terms of accuracy. Finally, never underestimate the effect that the individual squeezing the trigger can and WILL have on the accuracy potential of any semi-auto. Even the most accurate custom rifles out there that have the POTENTIAL to shoot sub-MOA or even approach the 1/2 MOA mark on a consistent, repeatable basis won't shoot for @#$% if the nut behind the butt fails to do their part every time.
The 6.5 creed is going to be flatter shooting for distance. And be super sonic a lot further out all other items being equal.
I agree with above about trigger being biggest improvement for accuracy improvement.
Most I have shot have been sub minute guns with match factory ammo. With hand loads I am sure could cut that in half.
The weight was only reason I didn't go with one a few years ago. Good luck and enjoy with your choice.
I agree with above about trigger being biggest improvement for accuracy improvement.
Most I have shot have been sub minute guns with match factory ammo. With hand loads I am sure could cut that in half.
The weight was only reason I didn't go with one a few years ago. Good luck and enjoy with your choice.
^^^All of this.^^^
Even with this nut behind the butt, my LR-308 holds under 1" at 100 yds. just fine when I'm paying attention. That is with just about any factory ammo I throw at it. I don't hand-load yet, but did find that the trigger swap was well worth it. I haven't tried an adjustable gas block yet and just may have to try that one of these days, but I believe that it's a great gun for the money.
And yes, it is very heavy. Mine is 15 lbs. before ammunition with a PRS stock.
I have shot 5 shot .76 moa with my lr-308 its almost funny how well the dpms barrels shoot with the price tags they put on them
I just acquired a DPMS LR308 with a 24" bull barrel myself. Looking froward to putting some shots on paper. On the trigger notes, I don't know what trigger group is in my rifle. I can say that it seems like its not a mil spec. I only dry fired it once, but I can say that there was a very smooth take up and it released way before I expected it too. Very little effort needed, less than I expected. Should I expect with that there I have an upgraded trigger?
It would seem that you do have an upgraded trigger group, but if it is as good as you say then it hardly matters. Get out there and shoot it.
I know it's a little different, but I recently bought a LR-.260, with a 24" barrel. It is very accurate. Half incher with hand loads. Good to past a 1000. So many more variables go in to accuracy than just bullet diameter. if you get good barrels and loads they are both really good to 6-700. The .260 is better at greater distance without doubt.
They can be good starter self-loaders, and many of them shoot well for a factory gun. The weights of the 24" LR-308 and LR-260 are beastly. I have owned them both, among 3 additional AR-10's chambered in .308 or .260 Rem. Once I went .260 Rem, I never looked back at .308 in this platform.
I guess I'm difficult to please as far as accuracy goes, so I had GA Precision do my last two large-frame AR's using Obermeyer (for the .308) and Bartlein (for the .260) barrels. The .260 Rem is boring to shoot with on full IPSC silhouettes at 700yds, and just starts to get fun at 1000yds. It is very forgiving on wind-reading. I purposely ignored a wind speed change when shooting at 1000yds with it when I was developing my initial loads with the 130gr Berger VLD's, and the group was still 9.25" horizontal, and maybe 6" vertical. That was shooting off of my truckbed, with my 2.5-10x44 Viper PST on 10x, with boiling mirage making my 10" shoot 'n c looking like a small bubbly spec.
I guess I'm difficult to please as far as accuracy goes, so I had GA Precision do my last two large-frame AR's using Obermeyer (for the .308) and Bartlein (for the .260) barrels. The .260 Rem is boring to shoot with on full IPSC silhouettes at 700yds, and just starts to get fun at 1000yds. It is very forgiving on wind-reading. I purposely ignored a wind speed change when shooting at 1000yds with it when I was developing my initial loads with the 130gr Berger VLD's, and the group was still 9.25" horizontal, and maybe 6" vertical. That was shooting off of my truckbed, with my 2.5-10x44 Viper PST on 10x, with boiling mirage making my 10" shoot 'n c looking like a small bubbly spec.
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