Rifle Scopes Dropped my rifle, turret completely CAME OFF!

[stello1001]

Lol

 

[Primus]

Hi,

Kind of makes you wonder how the Sig Tango 6 passed the military drop test and such huh? Because they drop it on much harder surfaces than wet soggy dirt....

Sincerely,
Theis

The same way the P320 passed the drop test despite being able to make it fire while dropping it.

$$$$ and jobs is how sig has won EVERY procurement. There is not a single product they make that someone else doesn't make better AND cheaper.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

They are not going to send that broken scope to fucking Japan you bunch of gullible nimrods.

 

[DJL2]

The lack of civility on the Hide still catches me out. The level of curmudgeon-y stuff is impressive.

Two points.

First, keeping this broadly on topic - it seems like something happened that caused significant shearing load at the turret. Thinking about a scope just falling and a rifle sliding, it’s hard to imagine what that might have been - I reread the account and it’s not clear to me what happened other than it hit a bunch of stuff. I’m curious!

Second, hunter safety. These classes strike me as of the same caliber as many concealed carry courses - i.e. they are a cover your ass, make some money, licensing racket designed to check a block and provide very little actual value to anyone but the government banking those funds (and those for tags) to do with as they will.

Moreover, I don’t think most of the people taking the courses want more than that or pay attention more than necessary to pass the test. Everyone knows it’s a check the block and that they are way too manly and smart to be told what to do (not always the case, but we have ALL seen this).

I will say that when you tell a guy that has ran, jumped, climbed, swam, crawled and jumped out of planes with a rifle that he needs to unload it and pass it off to get over a fence or into a stand or whatever, it makes it hard for me to take you seriously. Stupid people are not just gonna do stupid stuff, they’re also not going to pay attention to inconvenient rules designed to save them from their own ineptitude unless closely supervised.

 

[stello1001]

The lack of civility on the Hide still catches me out. The level of curmudgeon-y stuff is impressive.

Two points.

First, keeping this broadly on topic - it seems like something happened that caused significant shearing load at the turret. Thinking about a scope just falling and a rifle sliding, it’s hard to imagine what that might have been - I reread the account and it’s not clear to me what happened other than it hit a bunch of stuff. I’m curious!

Second, hunter safety. These classes strike me as of the same caliber as many concealed carry courses - i.e. they are a cover your ass, make some money, licensing racket designed to check a block and provide very little actual value to anyone but the government banking those funds (and those for tags) to do with as they will.

Moreover, I don’t think most of the people taking the courses want more than that or pay attention more than necessary to pass the test. Everyone knows it’s a check the block and that they are way too manly and smart to be told what to do (not always the case, but we have ALL seen this).

I will say that when you tell a guy that has ran, jumped, climbed, swam, crawled and jumped out of planes with a rifle that he needs to unload it and pass it off to get over a fence or into a stand or whatever, it makes it hard for me to take you seriously. Stupid people are not just gonna do stupid stuff, they’re also not going to pay attention to inconvenient rules designed to save them from their own ineptitude unless closely supervised.

Regardless of this being quite in the past already, I'm going to try to see if I can explain better because having an understanding is better than having total confusion.

I got to my stand that day, took nothing but my backpack on my back up there and left it up there. As I made my climb up, the front limbs or the ladder if you will, dug into the mud as my weight was not center. The stand was no longer level. I went back down, got my unloaded rifle, and proceeded up. About halfway up, I could already reach up into the stand with my arms and while holding on with one hand, I left my rifle leaning on one corner with my other. As I proceeded up, the last few steps into the stand, my weight on the front of the stand made it very unbalanced and it shook a bit. My rifle went flying. The turret hit somewhere up on the stand because I found the O ring that seals it tight up there. Then the whole thing hit somewhere again closer to the ground but on the stand before hitting mud.

I am honestly fairly new at the precision rifle or long range shooting world. In the past, I've used a .270 with a $200 Nikon for hunting and that always worked great for its intended use. Never had I ever needed to clean a barrel before. I only shot no more than maybe 5 to 10 rounds per year. This might explain why I was not very aware of what to do with the obstruction in my barrel. For those who made smartass comments or remarks about that, I guess good job on trying to put me down. You must take a lot of pride in doing so lol. I'm honestly here to learn more and take what I can from the wealth of knowledge here. For those who actually helped, I appreciate it.

Side note, I've already cleaned the bore and removed the obstruction.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

You broke your scope so no big deal. What is tiresome is every time somebody gets customer service it is described like their first blowjob done right. It has to be posted and it has to be described in complete paragraphs. It's like suddenly we become John Steinbeck.

As for the hunter safety shit. It has its rules for a reason. It isn't some money making bullshit. Everything they teach not to do is because somebody got hurt or killed. Nevertheless, I don't see a problem carrying a weapon up a stand as long as it is a slinged up and cleared properly. But as learned here the more shit you jump up a ladder the greater the chance of something going wrong. We don't see chimpanzees swing around in trees humping too much shit for a reason. Now, I'm fucking Steinbeck.

 

[Primus]

Well it's kinda common sense considering the vast majority of hunting related injuries and deaths are due to people shooting themselves while getting in and out of stands. There is a reason people are hammering on it. When people do blatenly dangerous acts that they should have known better ( like they teach in hunter safety) then they shouldn't expect the rest carpet. Maybe riddle and shame will work where common sense and self preservation didn't.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

Yeah, people need to chill when hunting. They get overly cammied, tactical, and nerved up. The enemy isn't equally armed and is too stupid to look up so you might as well be wearing your wife's favorite leggings and just enjoy the experience. Even the OP's scope had extra cammie on it. That shit is beyond ridiculous. This isn't 1968 and we didn't get to our objective in Laos by chopper with just some FAC circling nearby for support. Deer don't set up no fucking ambush.

 

[308pirate]

First, keeping this broadly on topic - it seems like something happened that caused significant shearing load at the turret. Thinking about a scope just falling and a rifle sliding, it’s hard to imagine what that might have been - I reread the account and it’s not clear to me what happened other than it hit a bunch of stuff. I’m curious!

The turret probably hit a step or branch on the way down and sheared off

Second, hunter safety. These classes strike me as of the same caliber as many concealed carry courses - i.e. they are a cover your ass, make some money, licensing racket designed to check a block and provide very little actual value to anyone but the government banking those funds (and those for tags) to do with as they will.

Moreover, I don’t think most of the people taking the courses want more than that or pay attention more than necessary to pass the test. Everyone knows it’s a check the block and that they are way too manly and smart to be told what to do (not always the case, but we have ALL seen this).

I will say that when you tell a guy that has ran, jumped, climbed, swam, crawled and jumped out of planes with a rifle that he needs to unload it and pass it off to get over a fence or into a stand or whatever, it makes it hard for me to take you seriously. Stupid people are not just gonna do stupid stuff, they’re also not going to pay attention to inconvenient rules designed to save them from their own ineptitude unless closely supervised.

+1

 

[stello1001]

Yeah, people need to chill when hunting. They get overly cammied, tactical, and nerved up. The enemy isn't equally armed and is too stupid to look up so you might as well be wearing your wife's favorite leggings and just enjoy the experience. Even the OP's scope had extra cammie on it. That shit is beyond ridiculous. This isn't 1968 and we didn't get to our objective in Laos by chopper with just some FAC circling nearby for support. Deer don't set up no fucking ambush.

LOL!!!

And I also feel the same way sometimes about people and their reactions online. They just need to chill. I have camo on my rifle cuz it's my fucking rifle and I fucking want to. I'm not scared of a deer seeing me. Heck, I walked up to about 25 yards to a younger buck last week until it finally noticed me.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

No doubt it was your experience and knowledge gained through the Studies and Observation Group that allowed you to grab that deer prisoner that provided valuable information that saved American lives. Thank you for your service.

 

[stello1001]

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[myronman3]

People can say what they want about hunter’s safety. But as stated, the subject matter covered is to try to keep people safe. I’ve a guy that has done all the things mentioned with guns, including jumping out of airplanes with them. There isnt a whole lot with firearms i havent done. And i will maintain, that hunter’s safety is a very good idea....even for someone like me.

When folks start getting concieted and big headed, that is when the door opens for shit to happen. Being complacent with guns is deadly. Thump your chest and deny it all you want, it is you that will pay the price.

The last thing i want is for someone to unnecessarily get hurt.