Eberlestock Rifle Chassis
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Re: Eberlestock Rifle Chassis
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Poison123</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Karux</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would love to read a comparison of the Eberlestock, Cadex, and Ashbury.... </div></div>
To be bluntly honest...I don't think that would work out real well for the eberlestock.</div></div>
Well we have the CADEX STRIKE Series chassis available. Your idea would be interesting, and I am sure you would be pleased with the STRIKE Series Chassis..
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Poison123</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Karux</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would love to read a comparison of the Eberlestock, Cadex, and Ashbury.... </div></div>
To be bluntly honest...I don't think that would work out real well for the eberlestock.</div></div>
Well we have the CADEX STRIKE Series chassis available. Your idea would be interesting, and I am sure you would be pleased with the STRIKE Series Chassis..
Re: Eberlestock Rifle Chassis
Honestly, what speaks volumes about the product to me is the forestock with some holes in it is $200.00 more than the one without holes.
I think the quote directly from the web site says it all:
"you don't need to spend thousands of dollars on a custom rig in order to obtain a highly accurate precision rifle"
You just need to spend thousands on the stock.
Honestly, what speaks volumes about the product to me is the forestock with some holes in it is $200.00 more than the one without holes.
I think the quote directly from the web site says it all:
"you don't need to spend thousands of dollars on a custom rig in order to obtain a highly accurate precision rifle"
You just need to spend thousands on the stock.
Re: Eberlestock Rifle Chassis
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Drake Associates</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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God damn, Chris...
Now THAT is just plain fucking SEXY!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Drake Associates</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
God damn, Chris...
Now THAT is just plain fucking SEXY!!!
Re: Eberlestock Rifle Chassis
+1 on the Cadex!!! I don't know bout the Eberlestock chassis when there are so many other choces out there for half the price. Like Poison has said, good luck with the sales.
+1 on the Cadex!!! I don't know bout the Eberlestock chassis when there are so many other choces out there for half the price. Like Poison has said, good luck with the sales.
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God damn that thing is sweet. Looks like the perfect chassis for a hunting rig.
*Now, how to make more money?....*
God damn that thing is sweet. Looks like the perfect chassis for a hunting rig.
*Now, how to make more money?....*
Re: Eberlestock Rifle Chassis
People bitching about a $2000 stock when there are $300 triggers, $4000 scopes, $900 barrel blanks, $1600 actions... Eberlestock stuff has always been high end. Nobody forcing anyone to buy one and they will sell.
People bitching about a $2000 stock when there are $300 triggers, $4000 scopes, $900 barrel blanks, $1600 actions... Eberlestock stuff has always been high end. Nobody forcing anyone to buy one and they will sell.
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I know a bunch are questioning the pricing, I'm not defending it, nor am I "happy" with the price. I'm not in manufacturing so I don't understand the cost associated with bringing something like this into the market. A don't know about pricing in regards to agreements with distributers on that issue either.
I feel it is unique with design and had some advantages to some. I also feel based on my questions that there could be additions or options added.
For what I want it for, the only one that comes close is the XLR series but with a different stock and I would like to see a small change in the forend attachment to ligthen the system and lower the bulk.
I just hope Mr. Eberle stays on the thread for the questions we may have.
Thanks in advance.
Mark
I know a bunch are questioning the pricing, I'm not defending it, nor am I "happy" with the price. I'm not in manufacturing so I don't understand the cost associated with bringing something like this into the market. A don't know about pricing in regards to agreements with distributers on that issue either.
I feel it is unique with design and had some advantages to some. I also feel based on my questions that there could be additions or options added.
For what I want it for, the only one that comes close is the XLR series but with a different stock and I would like to see a small change in the forend attachment to ligthen the system and lower the bulk.
I just hope Mr. Eberle stays on the thread for the questions we may have.
Thanks in advance.
Mark
Re: Eberlestock Rifle Chassis
I have a couple of XLR Chassis. Kyle did the custom inletting for my Icon Precision Hunter and that rifle is now shooting sub .3 groups. No bedding required, I have a 6.5 creedmoor built by Charlie at Score High Gunsmithing. It also now resides in an XLR Chassis. It is also shooting sub .3 just bolted in. I own a couple of Eberlestock packs and they are great, however the price point is a little high. McCrees also has a special going on right now for one of their folding stocks for 745.00 shipped and that includes one mag....
I wish them well in that price range.
I have a couple of XLR Chassis. Kyle did the custom inletting for my Icon Precision Hunter and that rifle is now shooting sub .3 groups. No bedding required, I have a 6.5 creedmoor built by Charlie at Score High Gunsmithing. It also now resides in an XLR Chassis. It is also shooting sub .3 just bolted in. I own a couple of Eberlestock packs and they are great, however the price point is a little high. McCrees also has a special going on right now for one of their folding stocks for 745.00 shipped and that includes one mag....
I wish them well in that price range.
Re: Eberlestock Rifle Chassis
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Karux</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mark5pt56, have you seen the Eliseo stock? similar to the XLR. </div></div>
I did, but no folder option.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Karux</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mark5pt56, have you seen the Eliseo stock? similar to the XLR. </div></div>
I did, but no folder option.
Re: Eberlestock Rifle Chassis
So lets be fair to the Mr. Eberle and its seemingly "over-priced" chassis. Anyone in the product development world knows that the final price point is affected by several variables [i.e. R&D, cost to manufacture, and obviously the amount of desired profit]. I don't think Mr. Eberle would kill his dream of the perfect chassis by being greedy on profit and jacking the price through the roof. Maybe they need to rethink materials, supplier, etc... to bring down the price? Maybe they don't... someone is currently bidding about $1400 on a KelTec KSG on GunBroker :-/
Will I be buying one for $2000? Absolutely not. To me, NO stock is worth $2000 unless it can shoot for me and make the recoil of a 50bmg feel like a 10/22. But this is my opinion. Supply and demand will eventually determine if this chassis is discontinued or not, so for now lets not rake Mr. Eberle over the coals.
So lets be fair to the Mr. Eberle and its seemingly "over-priced" chassis. Anyone in the product development world knows that the final price point is affected by several variables [i.e. R&D, cost to manufacture, and obviously the amount of desired profit]. I don't think Mr. Eberle would kill his dream of the perfect chassis by being greedy on profit and jacking the price through the roof. Maybe they need to rethink materials, supplier, etc... to bring down the price? Maybe they don't... someone is currently bidding about $1400 on a KelTec KSG on GunBroker :-/
Will I be buying one for $2000? Absolutely not. To me, NO stock is worth $2000 unless it can shoot for me and make the recoil of a 50bmg feel like a 10/22. But this is my opinion. Supply and demand will eventually determine if this chassis is discontinued or not, so for now lets not rake Mr. Eberle over the coals.
Re: Eberlestock Rifle Chassis
Hot damn! I've been dying to get my hands on one of these babies for an FN action. Woo hoo!
Unfortunately, it appears the probability of obtaining one has now reached pretty close to zero point zero unless the Chinese can get a license agreement.
In any case, can someone help me out with an alternative for an FN action?
Thanks in advance.
Hot damn! I've been dying to get my hands on one of these babies for an FN action. Woo hoo!
Unfortunately, it appears the probability of obtaining one has now reached pretty close to zero point zero unless the Chinese can get a license agreement.
In any case, can someone help me out with an alternative for an FN action?
Thanks in advance.
Re: Eberlestock Rifle Chassis
Mr. Eberle:
Great looking stock.
I have read your announcemnt page and as much as I can find out about your stock from your site. What I'm not finding and would appreciate you advising us is:
1. It appears that neither the buttplate nor the cheackpiece are adjustable. Correct? If either or both are, please advise.
2. How does the action mount - v-block or other hard mount or? Specifically any interface (part/material) between the action and the chassis?
3. What is the length of pull?
4. What is the maximum barrel diameter?
5. The "closed" barrel "shroud" on the "slick" forestock suggests the possibility of presenting both a heat problem and a great place to pack in a whole lot of dirt, mud, gunk.
5.a. How easy is it to remove for cleaning?
5.b. Do you expect to "restrict" (recommend) the barrel size on this stock (slick version) to preclude heat issues?
5.c. Will you be offering a "ventilated" version such as typical tube guns like the CSS/Eliseo/XLR?
6. Do you expect to offer a chassis that will accept a TAC408 action? If so, rough timeframe?
7. Will the initial release of the 700 LA slick accommodate a swap out with a 700 P in 338LM without mods?
Thank you.
See you at SHOT.
Mr. Eberle:
Great looking stock.
I have read your announcemnt page and as much as I can find out about your stock from your site. What I'm not finding and would appreciate you advising us is:
1. It appears that neither the buttplate nor the cheackpiece are adjustable. Correct? If either or both are, please advise.
2. How does the action mount - v-block or other hard mount or? Specifically any interface (part/material) between the action and the chassis?
3. What is the length of pull?
4. What is the maximum barrel diameter?
5. The "closed" barrel "shroud" on the "slick" forestock suggests the possibility of presenting both a heat problem and a great place to pack in a whole lot of dirt, mud, gunk.
5.a. How easy is it to remove for cleaning?
5.b. Do you expect to "restrict" (recommend) the barrel size on this stock (slick version) to preclude heat issues?
5.c. Will you be offering a "ventilated" version such as typical tube guns like the CSS/Eliseo/XLR?
6. Do you expect to offer a chassis that will accept a TAC408 action? If so, rough timeframe?
7. Will the initial release of the 700 LA slick accommodate a swap out with a 700 P in 338LM without mods?
Thank you.
See you at SHOT.
Re: Eberlestock Rifle Chassis
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ELR Researcher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mr. Eberle:
Great looking stock.
I have read your announcemnt page and as much as I can find out about your stock from your site. What I'm not finding and would appreciate you advising us is:
1. It appears that neither the buttplate nor the cheackpiece are adjustable. Correct? If either or both are, please advise.
2. How does the action mount - v-block or other hard mount or? Specifically any interface (part/material) between the action and the chassis?
3. What is the length of pull?
4. What is the maximum barrel diameter?
5. The "closed" barrel "shroud" on the "slick" forestock suggests the possibility of presenting both a heat problem and a great place to pack in a whole lot of dirt, mud, gunk.
5.a. How easy is it to remove for cleaning?
5.b. Do you expect to "restrict" (recommend) the barrel size on this stock (slick version) to preclude heat issues?
5.c. Will you be offering a "ventilated" version such as typical tube guns like the CSS/Eliseo/XLR?
6. Do you expect to offer a chassis that will accept a TAC408 action? If so, rough timeframe?
7. Will the initial release of the 700 LA slick accommodate a swap out with a 700 P in 338LM without mods?
Thank you.
See you at SHOT. </div></div>
The website pics and video will answer most of your questions. Click the link.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ELR Researcher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mr. Eberle:
Great looking stock.
I have read your announcemnt page and as much as I can find out about your stock from your site. What I'm not finding and would appreciate you advising us is:
1. It appears that neither the buttplate nor the cheackpiece are adjustable. Correct? If either or both are, please advise.
2. How does the action mount - v-block or other hard mount or? Specifically any interface (part/material) between the action and the chassis?
3. What is the length of pull?
4. What is the maximum barrel diameter?
5. The "closed" barrel "shroud" on the "slick" forestock suggests the possibility of presenting both a heat problem and a great place to pack in a whole lot of dirt, mud, gunk.
5.a. How easy is it to remove for cleaning?
5.b. Do you expect to "restrict" (recommend) the barrel size on this stock (slick version) to preclude heat issues?
5.c. Will you be offering a "ventilated" version such as typical tube guns like the CSS/Eliseo/XLR?
6. Do you expect to offer a chassis that will accept a TAC408 action? If so, rough timeframe?
7. Will the initial release of the 700 LA slick accommodate a swap out with a 700 P in 338LM without mods?
Thank you.
See you at SHOT. </div></div>
The website pics and video will answer most of your questions. Click the link.
Re: Eberlestock Rifle Chassis
chainring;
Thanks for the reminder about the video. I just looked at it. Unless the video has been redone, it is about a year old.
In regards your assumption that the info is there - on the site product page and assuming the video represents the production unit - in the order of my questions:
1. Adjustability of stock - video says adjustable with spacers with the checkpiece able to slide back and forth and tilt. Zero beyond the video and the sales side has no spacer options or anything that suggests any of the video-features made it to the production model.
2 thru 4 and 5.b, thru 7 - not answered.
5.a One bolt to remove forestock - excellent!
My conclusion, "some questions may be answered by the video, not very many of the ones I asked."
I'm not trying to argue here, just want to get some answers that are shared with the readership directly. I think the stock looks great but it is so different from others being offered I'd like to get the info gaps filled in.
Thanks for understanding.
chainring;
Thanks for the reminder about the video. I just looked at it. Unless the video has been redone, it is about a year old.
In regards your assumption that the info is there - on the site product page and assuming the video represents the production unit - in the order of my questions:
1. Adjustability of stock - video says adjustable with spacers with the checkpiece able to slide back and forth and tilt. Zero beyond the video and the sales side has no spacer options or anything that suggests any of the video-features made it to the production model.
2 thru 4 and 5.b, thru 7 - not answered.
5.a One bolt to remove forestock - excellent!
My conclusion, "some questions may be answered by the video, not very many of the ones I asked."
I'm not trying to argue here, just want to get some answers that are shared with the readership directly. I think the stock looks great but it is so different from others being offered I'd like to get the info gaps filled in.
Thanks for understanding.
Re: Eberlestock Rifle Chassis
There are some people with deep pockets on this forum, so I'm sure someone will buy the chassis. I for one won't be dropping this much coin into a stock when there are several competitors offering their stocks for under $1k price point.
Selling stocks isn't the same thing as selling packs. I own a GSII and feel it's a good value, but I'm not wealthy enough to dump $2k on a chassis.
There are some people with deep pockets on this forum, so I'm sure someone will buy the chassis. I for one won't be dropping this much coin into a stock when there are several competitors offering their stocks for under $1k price point.
Selling stocks isn't the same thing as selling packs. I own a GSII and feel it's a good value, but I'm not wealthy enough to dump $2k on a chassis.
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aubie, thats the problem there's nothing on that chassis that justifies its price to me. I don't see anything that makes it better than a AX or McCree or etc. Outside of it folding before the grip instead of behind it...its got nothing.
And I don't know why but it bugs the shit out of me that the cheekpiece and LOP uses spacers and doesn't quick adjust at its price point.
aubie, thats the problem there's nothing on that chassis that justifies its price to me. I don't see anything that makes it better than a AX or McCree or etc. Outside of it folding before the grip instead of behind it...its got nothing.
And I don't know why but it bugs the shit out of me that the cheekpiece and LOP uses spacers and doesn't quick adjust at its price point.
Re: Eberlestock Rifle Chassis
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Poison123</div><div class="ubbcode-body">aubie, thats the problem there's nothing on that chassis that justifies its price to me. I don't see anything that makes it better than a AX or McCree or etc. Outside of it folding before the grip instead of behind it...its got nothing.
And I don't know why but it bugs the shit out of me that the cheekpiece and LOP uses spacers and doesn't quick adjust at its price point. </div></div>
On top of those issues... the thing is fugly as all hell. It looks like a 3rd grader drew the designs for the chassis....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Poison123</div><div class="ubbcode-body">aubie, thats the problem there's nothing on that chassis that justifies its price to me. I don't see anything that makes it better than a AX or McCree or etc. Outside of it folding before the grip instead of behind it...its got nothing.
And I don't know why but it bugs the shit out of me that the cheekpiece and LOP uses spacers and doesn't quick adjust at its price point. </div></div>
On top of those issues... the thing is fugly as all hell. It looks like a 3rd grader drew the designs for the chassis....
Re: Eberlestock Rifle Chassis
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mark5pt56</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anybody see this at SHOT? Please let us know.
Mark </div></div>
I've seen it at the Shot Show, at the end of the day Friday, when it was time for exibitors to start packing, so I didn't have a chance to talk with company people... Anyway, it is looking like an elegant design, and it is VERY LIGHT, which is certainly a testiment to well thought out design. Had literally just seconds to take a look, but it seems like some aluminum parts are made by precision casting in metal mold, then, of course, precision machined where needed. Aluminum alloy looks/feels good, not sure what it is, but it's one of the higher grades. Finished parts appearance is excellent.
This technology does typically require high initial investment, which is probably the reason for the relatively high price. In general, it seems to me that the lighter the metal stock is, the more money is involved. That stock is certainly impressive from the techical point of view. Wish I would have spotted it before and could ask some questions.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mark5pt56</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anybody see this at SHOT? Please let us know.
Mark </div></div>
I've seen it at the Shot Show, at the end of the day Friday, when it was time for exibitors to start packing, so I didn't have a chance to talk with company people... Anyway, it is looking like an elegant design, and it is VERY LIGHT, which is certainly a testiment to well thought out design. Had literally just seconds to take a look, but it seems like some aluminum parts are made by precision casting in metal mold, then, of course, precision machined where needed. Aluminum alloy looks/feels good, not sure what it is, but it's one of the higher grades. Finished parts appearance is excellent.
This technology does typically require high initial investment, which is probably the reason for the relatively high price. In general, it seems to me that the lighter the metal stock is, the more money is involved. That stock is certainly impressive from the techical point of view. Wish I would have spotted it before and could ask some questions.
Re: Eberlestock Rifle Chassis
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Poison123</div><div class="ubbcode-body">aubie, thats the problem there's nothing on that chassis that justifies its price to me. I don't see anything that makes it better than a AX or McCree or etc. </div></div>
I think the appeal of this stock is that it’s simple. Incredibly simple. The spacer system is an example. It has the features of an adjustable with the dependability of a fixed stock. After all, how many times are you going to adjust your stock? Maybe once or twice a season as you go from shooting in summer cloths to winter clothes? Also look at the butt end of the stock and compare it to the AICS or McCree. There is nothing to the Eberle, yet it offers all the same features of the other two.
Makes me think of some of my other gear. My Arc’Teryx jacket was very expensive. It has three pockets and no lining. You can buy a jacket for half the price with hundreds of more pockets, fancy features, and even a button in fleece. The thing is I won’t ever use them or need them. All these extras do is add weight and make things complicated. Same reason I bought a Falkniven and not a RAT. In my opinion, the Eberle stock follows the same philosophy of design. You are correct the Eberle offers all the same features as the others: Rail options, AICS mags, adjustability, and it folds. What makes it better? The design makes it potentially better. It should be significantly lighter than any other chassis on the market. It is more streamlined and simple.
Time will tell if it is as durable and dependable as the AICS has been shown to be. Time will also tell if the benefits are worth the premium.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Poison123</div><div class="ubbcode-body">aubie, thats the problem there's nothing on that chassis that justifies its price to me. I don't see anything that makes it better than a AX or McCree or etc. </div></div>
I think the appeal of this stock is that it’s simple. Incredibly simple. The spacer system is an example. It has the features of an adjustable with the dependability of a fixed stock. After all, how many times are you going to adjust your stock? Maybe once or twice a season as you go from shooting in summer cloths to winter clothes? Also look at the butt end of the stock and compare it to the AICS or McCree. There is nothing to the Eberle, yet it offers all the same features of the other two.
Makes me think of some of my other gear. My Arc’Teryx jacket was very expensive. It has three pockets and no lining. You can buy a jacket for half the price with hundreds of more pockets, fancy features, and even a button in fleece. The thing is I won’t ever use them or need them. All these extras do is add weight and make things complicated. Same reason I bought a Falkniven and not a RAT. In my opinion, the Eberle stock follows the same philosophy of design. You are correct the Eberle offers all the same features as the others: Rail options, AICS mags, adjustability, and it folds. What makes it better? The design makes it potentially better. It should be significantly lighter than any other chassis on the market. It is more streamlined and simple.
Time will tell if it is as durable and dependable as the AICS has been shown to be. Time will also tell if the benefits are worth the premium.
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I spent some time with the Eberlestock crew during SHOT. While Glen was busy during my visits (no opportunity to pick his brain), I got a few pics of the chassis. Thought they'd be relevant here...
As of now, there is no dealer program when it comes to the chassis. So, if you want one, you have to go directly through Eberlestock. This may change in the future but right now there will be no "Snipershide Member Promo" on this system in the future...
Updates regarding some of their packs, etc. will be forthcoming...
Ceylon
deltaoutdoorsman.com
I spent some time with the Eberlestock crew during SHOT. While Glen was busy during my visits (no opportunity to pick his brain), I got a few pics of the chassis. Thought they'd be relevant here...
As of now, there is no dealer program when it comes to the chassis. So, if you want one, you have to go directly through Eberlestock. This may change in the future but right now there will be no "Snipershide Member Promo" on this system in the future...
Updates regarding some of their packs, etc. will be forthcoming...
Ceylon
deltaoutdoorsman.com
Re: Eberlestock Rifle Chassis
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kortik</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mark5pt56</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anybody see this at SHOT? Please let us know.
Mark </div></div>
I've seen it at the Shot Show, at the end of the day Friday, when it was time for exibitors to start packing, so I didn't have a chance to talk with company people... Anyway, it is looking like an elegant design, and it is VERY LIGHT, which is certainly a testiment to well thought out design. Had literally just seconds to take a look, but it seems like some aluminum parts are made by precision casting in metal mold, then, of course, precision machined where needed. Aluminum alloy looks/feels good, not sure what it is, but it's one of the higher grades. Finished parts appearance is excellent.
This technology does typically require high initial investment, which is probably the reason for the relatively high price. In general, it seems to me that the lighter the metal stock is, the more money is involved. That stock is certainly impressive from the techical point of view. Wish I would have spotted it before and could ask some questions.
</div></div>
Indeed, you always pay for weight in the outdoor world. Shoes are another example, sleeping bags, etc. I like the design simple and light, any idea with the weight though?
I wish he would post on here so we would know these things, I think a more thorough job could be done with answers, specs and DETAILED pics.
I certainly appreciate the info and Ceylon as well.
I was hoping it would lock open and the QD points could be up front as well without a rail and qd add on. Maybe he can refine it a bit more. I don't have the coin right now and I will hold out until I do and maybe we will see some upgrades and some price drop.
Mark
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kortik</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mark5pt56</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anybody see this at SHOT? Please let us know.
Mark </div></div>
I've seen it at the Shot Show, at the end of the day Friday, when it was time for exibitors to start packing, so I didn't have a chance to talk with company people... Anyway, it is looking like an elegant design, and it is VERY LIGHT, which is certainly a testiment to well thought out design. Had literally just seconds to take a look, but it seems like some aluminum parts are made by precision casting in metal mold, then, of course, precision machined where needed. Aluminum alloy looks/feels good, not sure what it is, but it's one of the higher grades. Finished parts appearance is excellent.
This technology does typically require high initial investment, which is probably the reason for the relatively high price. In general, it seems to me that the lighter the metal stock is, the more money is involved. That stock is certainly impressive from the techical point of view. Wish I would have spotted it before and could ask some questions.
</div></div>
Indeed, you always pay for weight in the outdoor world. Shoes are another example, sleeping bags, etc. I like the design simple and light, any idea with the weight though?
I wish he would post on here so we would know these things, I think a more thorough job could be done with answers, specs and DETAILED pics.
I certainly appreciate the info and Ceylon as well.
I was hoping it would lock open and the QD points could be up front as well without a rail and qd add on. Maybe he can refine it a bit more. I don't have the coin right now and I will hold out until I do and maybe we will see some upgrades and some price drop.
Mark
Re: Eberlestock Rifle Chassis
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mark5pt56</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kortik</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mark5pt56</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anybody see this at SHOT? Please let us know.
Mark </div></div>
I've seen it at the Shot Show, at the end of the day Friday, when it was time for exibitors to start packing, so I didn't have a chance to talk with company people... Anyway, it is looking like an elegant design, and it is VERY LIGHT, which is certainly a testiment to well thought out design. Had literally just seconds to take a look, but it seems like some aluminum parts are made by precision casting in metal mold, then, of course, precision machined where needed. Aluminum alloy looks/feels good, not sure what it is, but it's one of the higher grades. Finished parts appearance is excellent.
This technology does typically require high initial investment, which is probably the reason for the relatively high price. In general, it seems to me that the lighter the metal stock is, the more money is involved. That stock is certainly impressive from the techical point of view. Wish I would have spotted it before and could ask some questions.
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Indeed, you always pay for weight in the outdoor world. Shoes are another example, sleeping bags, etc. I like the design simple and light, any idea with the weight though?
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I picked it up, it felt like a rifle with polymer stock, deducting barreled action, bipod and scope weight, I would guess about 2 lbs. for the stock itself.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mark5pt56</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kortik</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mark5pt56</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anybody see this at SHOT? Please let us know.
Mark </div></div>
I've seen it at the Shot Show, at the end of the day Friday, when it was time for exibitors to start packing, so I didn't have a chance to talk with company people... Anyway, it is looking like an elegant design, and it is VERY LIGHT, which is certainly a testiment to well thought out design. Had literally just seconds to take a look, but it seems like some aluminum parts are made by precision casting in metal mold, then, of course, precision machined where needed. Aluminum alloy looks/feels good, not sure what it is, but it's one of the higher grades. Finished parts appearance is excellent.
This technology does typically require high initial investment, which is probably the reason for the relatively high price. In general, it seems to me that the lighter the metal stock is, the more money is involved. That stock is certainly impressive from the techical point of view. Wish I would have spotted it before and could ask some questions.
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Indeed, you always pay for weight in the outdoor world. Shoes are another example, sleeping bags, etc. I like the design simple and light, any idea with the weight though?
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I picked it up, it felt like a rifle with polymer stock, deducting barreled action, bipod and scope weight, I would guess about 2 lbs. for the stock itself.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kortik</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I picked it up, it felt like a rifle with polymer stock, deducting barreled action, bipod and scope weight, I would guess about 2 lbs. for the stock itself. </div></div>
It's going to be a tough sell. McMillan's ultralight hunters are lighter (and cheaper).
I wonder why they didn't just make another hole on the forend for a flush cup like they did in front of the magazine well?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kortik</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I picked it up, it felt like a rifle with polymer stock, deducting barreled action, bipod and scope weight, I would guess about 2 lbs. for the stock itself. </div></div>
It's going to be a tough sell. McMillan's ultralight hunters are lighter (and cheaper).
I wonder why they didn't just make another hole on the forend for a flush cup like they did in front of the magazine well?
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$2200 for the folding version with holes for picatinny rails. They're dreaming. It looks like a nice chassis to me and if it was a reasonable price I would buy one instead of the AI chassis I'm getting ready to purchase. For $1800-2200 though they can keep it. That's more overpriced than the new Trijicon scope.
$2200 for the folding version with holes for picatinny rails. They're dreaming. It looks like a nice chassis to me and if it was a reasonable price I would buy one instead of the AI chassis I'm getting ready to purchase. For $1800-2200 though they can keep it. That's more overpriced than the new Trijicon scope.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kortik</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mark5pt56</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kortik</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mark5pt56</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anybody see this at SHOT? Please let us know.
Mark </div></div>
I've seen it at the Shot Show, at the end of the day Friday, when it was time for exibitors to start packing, so I didn't have a chance to talk with company people... Anyway, it is looking like an elegant design, and it is VERY LIGHT, which is certainly a testiment to well thought out design. Had literally just seconds to take a look, but it seems like some aluminum parts are made by precision casting in metal mold, then, of course, precision machined where needed. Aluminum alloy looks/feels good, not sure what it is, but it's one of the higher grades. Finished parts appearance is excellent.
This technology does typically require high initial investment, which is probably the reason for the relatively high price. In general, it seems to me that the lighter the metal stock is, the more money is involved. That stock is certainly impressive from the techical point of view. Wish I would have spotted it before and could ask some questions.
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Indeed, you always pay for weight in the outdoor world. Shoes are another example, sleeping bags, etc. I like the design simple and light, any idea with the weight though?
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I picked it up, it felt like a rifle with polymer stock, deducting barreled action, bipod and scope weight, I would guess about 2 lbs. for the stock itself.
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That's great! I was estimating 2.5-3 by sight.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kortik</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mark5pt56</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kortik</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mark5pt56</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anybody see this at SHOT? Please let us know.
Mark </div></div>
I've seen it at the Shot Show, at the end of the day Friday, when it was time for exibitors to start packing, so I didn't have a chance to talk with company people... Anyway, it is looking like an elegant design, and it is VERY LIGHT, which is certainly a testiment to well thought out design. Had literally just seconds to take a look, but it seems like some aluminum parts are made by precision casting in metal mold, then, of course, precision machined where needed. Aluminum alloy looks/feels good, not sure what it is, but it's one of the higher grades. Finished parts appearance is excellent.
This technology does typically require high initial investment, which is probably the reason for the relatively high price. In general, it seems to me that the lighter the metal stock is, the more money is involved. That stock is certainly impressive from the techical point of view. Wish I would have spotted it before and could ask some questions.
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Indeed, you always pay for weight in the outdoor world. Shoes are another example, sleeping bags, etc. I like the design simple and light, any idea with the weight though?
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I picked it up, it felt like a rifle with polymer stock, deducting barreled action, bipod and scope weight, I would guess about 2 lbs. for the stock itself.
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That's great! I was estimating 2.5-3 by sight.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mark5pt56</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
That's great! I was estimating 2.5-3 by sight. </div></div>
You may be right. Let's say 2.5 +/- 0.5 lbs.
I do like the stock because it is UNCOMPLICATED. Not a lot of sticking out crap, which appears to be a weird tendency of today. Firearm, in my opinion, should be smooth on the outside, so it does not act as a fish hook for a shooter.
I could appreciate the whole concept, I've built a couple of aluminum stocks myself and there is cerainly no need to complicate above and beyond what is necessary for function. I think if they sign up more dealers and take a risk of more qty vsv selling in small numners, they could drop prices a lot and pay for the tooling which certainly cost them a bunch relatively quick.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mark5pt56</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
That's great! I was estimating 2.5-3 by sight. </div></div>
You may be right. Let's say 2.5 +/- 0.5 lbs.
I do like the stock because it is UNCOMPLICATED. Not a lot of sticking out crap, which appears to be a weird tendency of today. Firearm, in my opinion, should be smooth on the outside, so it does not act as a fish hook for a shooter.
I could appreciate the whole concept, I've built a couple of aluminum stocks myself and there is cerainly no need to complicate above and beyond what is necessary for function. I think if they sign up more dealers and take a risk of more qty vsv selling in small numners, they could drop prices a lot and pay for the tooling which certainly cost them a bunch relatively quick.
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Neat design but things made of metal will get hot or cold. Not what I'd be looking for if my uses ever occurred in environments of either extreme.
Reminds me of hunting with aluminum arrows back in the day. Just about froze the tip of my finger off because I accidentally let it rest on an arrow in my quiver while I was waiting for a buck to take one more step...usually not a problem but that day it was -15 degrees.
Neat design but things made of metal will get hot or cold. Not what I'd be looking for if my uses ever occurred in environments of either extreme.
Reminds me of hunting with aluminum arrows back in the day. Just about froze the tip of my finger off because I accidentally let it rest on an arrow in my quiver while I was waiting for a buck to take one more step...usually not a problem but that day it was -15 degrees.
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OK we all hate the price, but what other folding modern stock comes close to that weight? Light weight so you can shoot all positions; folding to keep the rifle length under control when on the trail, AI mag system with button catch (think Seekins); clean lines and simple drop in system; sounds pretty neat to me. If you are in the mountains weight just hurts; I've spent a bomb over the years to keep carry weight down.
Anyone shoot standing any more? (thinking Magpul lower grip).
If cold just camo tape it or packmyhar (??) the sides.
Hate to say, I just love it. The test will be if it shoots well (think it just might).
OK we all hate the price, but what other folding modern stock comes close to that weight? Light weight so you can shoot all positions; folding to keep the rifle length under control when on the trail, AI mag system with button catch (think Seekins); clean lines and simple drop in system; sounds pretty neat to me. If you are in the mountains weight just hurts; I've spent a bomb over the years to keep carry weight down.
Anyone shoot standing any more? (thinking Magpul lower grip).
If cold just camo tape it or packmyhar (??) the sides.
Hate to say, I just love it. The test will be if it shoots well (think it just might).
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mdesign</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Neat design but things made of metal will get hot or cold. Not what I'd be looking for if my uses ever occurred in environments of either extreme.
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For the stock, which is an alum, while not having the exactly the same coeficient of thermal expansion as steel of barreled receiver, it's perfectly O.K. for all known weather conditions. Alum. stock are known to be extremely stable platform, AI proved that, I think...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mdesign</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Neat design but things made of metal will get hot or cold. Not what I'd be looking for if my uses ever occurred in environments of either extreme.
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For the stock, which is an alum, while not having the exactly the same coeficient of thermal expansion as steel of barreled receiver, it's perfectly O.K. for all known weather conditions. Alum. stock are known to be extremely stable platform, AI proved that, I think...
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I can say if it's that cold to where it's an issue, I would have gloves. I usually take out a light pair and heavy pair anyhow. Not to get into the FN mag vs AI, but his chassis doesn't call for mods to the action since it uses FN mags with the 70. As I understand, others requires modification to the action since they use the AI magazine.This chassis is begging for the Winchester Extreme mod 70. I would take off the drop down rear stock spike, no need whatsoever.
I can say if it's that cold to where it's an issue, I would have gloves. I usually take out a light pair and heavy pair anyhow. Not to get into the FN mag vs AI, but his chassis doesn't call for mods to the action since it uses FN mags with the 70. As I understand, others requires modification to the action since they use the AI magazine.This chassis is begging for the Winchester Extreme mod 70. I would take off the drop down rear stock spike, no need whatsoever.
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This is a tool. It either works for you or it does not. If it does, great. If not, and you have any constructive suggestions, be respectful, or just use the PM function. Nobody is forcing you to buy it.
This is a tool. It either works for you or it does not. If it does, great. If not, and you have any constructive suggestions, be respectful, or just use the PM function. Nobody is forcing you to buy it.
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It is a ver nice looking setup. There is clearly allot of machine time involved in it's manufacturing. I will never have the coin to get one at that price however. Anyone know the actual material it's made of? At any rate good to see another Idaho company in the game.
It is a ver nice looking setup. There is clearly allot of machine time involved in it's manufacturing. I will never have the coin to get one at that price however. Anyone know the actual material it's made of? At any rate good to see another Idaho company in the game.
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To me this stock is plain ugly and I for one would not own it not just for the cost point but its an also ran to me .Here in NZ we get raped when buying imported stocks and I for one paid $2200 for my AICS stock, would I do it again -probably not as I would have one sent from the USA instead .Anyway thats my opinion on this stock -aesthetically not pleasing
To me this stock is plain ugly and I for one would not own it not just for the cost point but its an also ran to me .Here in NZ we get raped when buying imported stocks and I for one paid $2200 for my AICS stock, would I do it again -probably not as I would have one sent from the USA instead .Anyway thats my opinion on this stock -aesthetically not pleasing
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Who cares what it looks like? Most of us here aren't mall ninjas who just show off to our friends, most here use their equipment. It looks like a very well thought out stock and a great design. It looks to be everything you need and nothing you don't in a lightweight package. The price is just way to steep. I'd be willing to pay a little extra for the light weight but not $2000+. If it was comparable in price to the AX I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
Who cares what it looks like? Most of us here aren't mall ninjas who just show off to our friends, most here use their equipment. It looks like a very well thought out stock and a great design. It looks to be everything you need and nothing you don't in a lightweight package. The price is just way to steep. I'd be willing to pay a little extra for the light weight but not $2000+. If it was comparable in price to the AX I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
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Hell are you not a mall ninja that shows off to your freinds -I am and I like my 2k stocks to look ninja as not dorky as so if you want Barbra Streisands nose with a bipod good for you
The new Eberlestock Rifle Chassis with a face
http://www.1000uglypeople.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=130342579
Hell are you not a mall ninja that shows off to your freinds -I am and I like my 2k stocks to look ninja as not dorky as so if you want Barbra Streisands nose with a bipod good for you
The new Eberlestock Rifle Chassis with a face
http://www.1000uglypeople.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=130342579
Re: Eberlestock Rifle Chassis
Can this chassis in some kind of configuration weight 850 grams?
What is the weight of the lightiest config?
Can additional foreend tube be purchased? What's the price?
Can this chassis in some kind of configuration weight 850 grams?
What is the weight of the lightiest config?
Can additional foreend tube be purchased? What's the price?
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Price is a relative thing. The same people driving Formula 1's are not the same people driving a Focus. If I can't afford it, I don't need it. Lucky for Eberlestock, the worlds full of people who care only for performance. Let the product do the talking.
Price is a relative thing. The same people driving Formula 1's are not the same people driving a Focus. If I can't afford it, I don't need it. Lucky for Eberlestock, the worlds full of people who care only for performance. Let the product do the talking.
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They should stick to backpacks and such. I wouldn't run that thing if it were free, much less pay for one.
kt
They should stick to backpacks and such. I wouldn't run that thing if it were free, much less pay for one.
kt
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SingleShot85</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They should stick to backpacks and such. I wouldn't run that thing if it were free, much less pay for one.
kt </div></div>+1 zillion
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SingleShot85</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They should stick to backpacks and such. I wouldn't run that thing if it were free, much less pay for one.
kt </div></div>+1 zillion
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I dont think I have ever seen anything on this forum take a beating like this. People are about falling over to buy that cadex abortion and that is 2k+ and what about the 4k scope. The guy brings something new and somewhat innovative and you outright call him an asshole for doing it. I buy his products and the work great and he also seems to listen to make things for the better. If you dont want to pay the price dont buy it. Do you honestly think a $8500 338 ax is worth the money. Give me a break.....
Rich
I dont think I have ever seen anything on this forum take a beating like this. People are about falling over to buy that cadex abortion and that is 2k+ and what about the 4k scope. The guy brings something new and somewhat innovative and you outright call him an asshole for doing it. I buy his products and the work great and he also seems to listen to make things for the better. If you dont want to pay the price dont buy it. Do you honestly think a $8500 338 ax is worth the money. Give me a break.....
Rich
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I don't know... Eberle's been making performance stocks a lot longer than backpacks. I'd take one in a heartbeat if I was in the market for such an item. A couple G's is only a lot if you don't have it. His customers are trying to accomplish something (like a gold metal at the Olympics or things they're not allowed to talk about). They don't ask the price, they just order multiple units.
Funny how the "buy once, cry once" crowd are all crickets when it's outside their financial capabilities. Regarding ugly/not ugly... that's a topic for the cosmetics boutique. The beauty is downrange. I've heard the same complaints about Miss America... like those guys had any shot at her anyway.
I don't know... Eberle's been making performance stocks a lot longer than backpacks. I'd take one in a heartbeat if I was in the market for such an item. A couple G's is only a lot if you don't have it. His customers are trying to accomplish something (like a gold metal at the Olympics or things they're not allowed to talk about). They don't ask the price, they just order multiple units.
Funny how the "buy once, cry once" crowd are all crickets when it's outside their financial capabilities. Regarding ugly/not ugly... that's a topic for the cosmetics boutique. The beauty is downrange. I've heard the same complaints about Miss America... like those guys had any shot at her anyway.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SSG3K</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I dont think I have ever seen anything on this forum take a beating like this. People are about falling over to buy that cadex abortion and that is 2k+ and what about the 4k scope. The guy brings something new and somewhat innovative and you outright call him an asshole for doing it. I buy his products and the work great and he also seems to listen to make things for the better. If you dont want to pay the price dont buy it. Do you honestly think a $8500 338 ax is worth the money. Give me a break.....
Rich </div></div>
Remind me what's innovative about it? But I will agree I don't see the hype about the cadex.
And only a sucker pays 8500 for the ax.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SSG3K</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I dont think I have ever seen anything on this forum take a beating like this. People are about falling over to buy that cadex abortion and that is 2k+ and what about the 4k scope. The guy brings something new and somewhat innovative and you outright call him an asshole for doing it. I buy his products and the work great and he also seems to listen to make things for the better. If you dont want to pay the price dont buy it. Do you honestly think a $8500 338 ax is worth the money. Give me a break.....
Rich </div></div>
Remind me what's innovative about it? But I will agree I don't see the hype about the cadex.
And only a sucker pays 8500 for the ax.
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