Electronic .Long range reactive targets.

[Bender]

Where does the market stand for this? I remember a while ago they had some camera flash reactive targets at a shoot here in Wyoming but they didn’t perform all that well. Who makes the best ones and what are its capabilities? Is it single target only. Like one target at a time or can you run a network of them. I’m just curious and might have some ideas. Please let me know.

 

[b6graham]

MagnetoSpeed T1000 Gen 2 Target Hit Indicator

The T1000 is a rugged target hit indicator with

magnetospeed.com

word has it there is about to be one made by a company everyone on here is VERy familiar with, that's going to be MUCH cheaper

 

[lash]

Is this what you are asking about?

MAGNETOSPEED T1000 TARGET HIT INDICATOR - GEN 2 - Graf & Sons

The T1000 is a rugged target hit indicator with a weatherproof enclosure and long battery life. It was designed to be mounted to the back side of AR500 steel targets 10 inches in width or greater. While mounted, it is in an always-on state waiting for the next shot. The flexible rubber reflector...

www.grafs.com

The T1000 is current state of the art. These work really well and every time.

 

[b6graham]

Is this what you are asking about?

MAGNETOSPEED T1000 TARGET HIT INDICATOR - GEN 2 - Graf & Sons

The T1000 is a rugged target hit indicator with a weatherproof enclosure and long battery life. It was designed to be mounted to the back side of AR500 steel targets 10 inches in width or greater. While mounted, it is in an always-on state waiting for the next shot. The flexible rubber reflector...

www.grafs.com

The T1000 is current state of the art. These work really well and every time.

too slow junior

 

[Hollywood 6mm]

The T1000 is definitely the way to go for a hit indicator. They see a lot of use at PRS matches, and they hold up really well.

 

[Bender]

Would there be a market for a computer indicator that would run on windows and keep track of hits, along with near unlimited wireless range and be networked with 10+ targets? Like literally a whole PRS event being wireless with the ability to have targets numbering with on screen hit/miss abilities?

 

[Eurodriver]

Would there be a market for a computer indicator that would run on windows and keep track of hits, along with near unlimited wireless range and be networked with 10+ targets? Like literally a whole PRS event being wireless with the ability to have targets numbering with on screen hit/miss abilities?

Have you met many gun owners? These guys spend $500 traveling, $5000 on a rifle, $3000 on an optic, $1100 on a tripod, $700 on a kestrel and then will spend 45 minutes digging in the mud for a $0.80 piece of brass.

It sounds really expensive and unnecessary so I’m sure PRS guys will eat it up.

 

[padom]

So I've put together something on this subject but not a hit indicator. Actual 4K live view of a target or targets with up close video of target up to a mile away Obviously, the farther you want to see and the more targets you want to see simultaneously the more expensive the setup will be. 100% wireless between target and firing line. Distance from firing line to target 25 mile range with bandwidth of 450 mbps...


I've got this running a few times to test. Works great. Geared more towards ranges/venues then individuals. But it pretty much eliminates the need for spotters and arguments on hit vs miss. Video is live view on any size flat screen or screens you want in clubhouse and/or on the firing line and is recorded for playback as many times as you want.

I tested it with a 4K 360 degree PTZ camera that can be hung at the firing line and zoom into any target up to a mile away. It can be programmed to each stage so 1 click preset for each stage the camera automatically moves to each target, zooms, etc. Endless configurations and possibilites.

Not as expensive as you would think for a full club/range setup

 

[Mr.BR]

Have 6 of these and a remote controler for programing and command up to 1800m , all working and mint all round , but its a winter project as UK military for some reason removed vibration sensors when they gave them to teritorials to train with airsoft , so have to make own sensors.

 

[Bender]

For work in the oil and gas industry I deal a lot with wireless radio capabilities as far as transferring data from a remote wellsite back to the Internet. These radios are fairly inexpensive and can be networked together on RS-485 and can be integrated to whatever sensor or input you want. While I was at work I was daydreaming the possibilities of what a vibration sensor and a network of these radios would do for a PRS event or a stationary permanent Rifle club.

 

[missed]

I have been working on some related projects myself. The best sensors I have found are the 3 axis accelerometers. Feeding back to a micro controller that can send data back on WiFi networks. I still have a handful of bugs and the setup is not commercial ready. Just too many other irons in the fire that I already can not get to.

The accelerometers are cheap, tough, I'm attaching them to magnets and the cable runs up the back of the target, off the hanger and down the rack leg to the microcontroller. I haven't shot a cable or killer a sensor yet. Only problem has been the rats eating the cable jacket when I've left them out.

 

[Bender]

These have much greater range than WiFi. Like 5 miles. Or 100+ with repeaters. Just slower communications.

 

[Bender]

I was thinking a set for ELR stuff.

 

[padom]

These have much greater range than WiFi. Like 5 miles. Or 100+ with repeaters. Just slower communications.

Yea Wifi isnt where it's at for range. I can do P2P up to 25 miles line of site. Longer with repeating stations

 

[missed]

That has been one of my hang ups, originally went WiFi as I had bits and pieces that made it really easy. Simple packet communications would be real easy especially with small business band radios. I hadn't dove into what could be a commercial solution, but it's crossed my mind. I have the ultra low power modes working where a hit wakes the system back up, then there is a supervisory, and hit indication sent in a packet. I have some GMRS radios at the shop that I thought about using as I have a GMRS licence. Just to figure out the hardware and software interfaces.

 

[LawnMM]

Look at how many guys shoot PRS overall compared to stuff like USPSA and 3 Gun, not that many, and it's an even smaller segment than that where this would be useful.

Don't get me wrong, it's cool shit, but you can get a decent spotter for $1200 and it works anywhere, what's the stuff you guys are discussing run?

For ELR with mirage on hot days it totally makes sense, the rest of the time it kinda seems like reinventing the wheel. We can already see hits on steel and that's gotten easier with stuff at 1k+ getting flash indicators that negate mirage and inexperienced spotters.

 

[mrtoyz]

I’ve got the Target Vision Longshot LR-3. It does work as advertised, however, it doesn’t work well for spotting missing. To work well it would need to sit at the same level as your target and that’s obviously problematic.
It would be nice to find something that takes the guess work out of hits and misses at ELR distances and mirage.

 

[squishee]

What ever happened to the new one they advertised at shot that was smaller and cheaper? I really wanted a few of those. The T1000s are just too big and expensive.

Any link on this?

 

[squishee]

Thanks

 

[Bender]

I’m still working on a beta beta lol.

I’ll update when I get results.

 

[mrtoyz]

Those Magnetospeed T1000’s do work as advertised

 

[squishee]

I bought one for myself for xmas

 

[Screehopper]

I have a friend that is an electrical engineer that homebrewed a LED hit indicator that used magnets to stick onto the back of steel targets. He built them before the T1000 came out to market. I told my buddy that he ought to start selling them. He also wired up the LED hit indicator to a radio transmitter that transmitted to a radio next to the shooter with an audio and blinking light indicator for each hit. He didn't feel there was a market then the T1000 came out.