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pmclaine i am aware of what PMCs do in Iraq and Afghanistan , aware that its not combat roles , at all but UN thinks it falls in to mercenary definition. at least when bodies start piling up.

US is not a party to UN convention on Mercenarys so does not realy give a fuck , but UN investigation of the Blackwater shooting considered it a type of merceneary work by contractors preforming basicaly military duties .

Article 1 of the Convention has the following definition of a mercenary:

1. A mercenary is any person who:
(a) Is specially recruited locally or abroad in order to fight in an armed conflict;
(b) Is motivated to take part in the hostilities essentially by the desire for private gain and, in fact, is promised, by or on behalf of a party to the conflict, material compensation substantially in excess of that promised or paid to combatants of similar rank and functions in the armed forces of that party;[/QUOTE]
(c) Is neither a national of a party to the conflict nor a resident of territory controlled by a party to the conflict;[/QUOTE]
(d) Is not a member of the armed forces of a party to the conflict; and(e) Has not been sent by a State which is not a party to the conflict on official duty as a member of its armed forces.
2. A mercenary is also any person who, in any other situation:
(a) Is specially recruited locally or abroad for the purpose of participating in a concerted act of violence aimed at) Overthrowing a Government or otherwise undermining the constitutional order of a State; or(ii) Undermining the territorial integrity of a State;
(b) Is motivated to take part therein essentially by the desire for significant private gain and is prompted by the promise or payment of material compensation;
(c) Is neither a national nor a resident of the State against which such an act is directed;[/QUOTE]
(d) Has not been sent by a State on official duty; and
(e) Is not a member of the armed forces of the State on whose territory the act is undertaken.

— UN Mercenary Convention

Parts that are a bit gray area is what is considered "direct participation in an armed conflict," There is no distinction based on the offensive or defensive nature of the participation that US goverment touted in its defense of PMC use in Iraq .

This is all irelevant but case is not that clear cut so courts have been involved in getting around this to see under what set of laws PMCs should fall.
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See thats your problem you think the UN means something.....

See my comment about the stategy regarding our latest foray into Iraq.

Gulf War I was the last nail in the heart of the UN proving its nothing but a useless club for thugs that want to leave their shitholes in order to come to this country and commit crimes under the shelter of diplomatic immunity.
 
You're using the UN as your guiding light?

That makes sense now. We should boot them the fuck out of our country, and make their headquarters some luxury apartments. They are taking up prime real estate in my country we capitalists could exploit to make some great money!
 
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DoS wouldn't need WPS contractors if staties would quit being a bunch of little bitches and actually do something for themselves for once. Instead, they are the epitome of elitist .gov lovers who instead of standing up for themselves or in other any way taking action, they curl into a little ball and scream for an alpha to come same them from the bad noises, while the next day they will complain the same alpha was too rough with them while moving them to a safe haven and try to get him expelled from country.

Here's what it's like working with DoS: They bitch about locked gates, they bitch about open gates, they bitch about windowless rooms, they bitch about people with guns being visible, they bitch about the car being too hot in July and not being able to roll down the armored window, they bitch about you opening the door to check an ID inside the sally port when they refuse to properly display it, they bitch if you don't stare at their ID for fifteen seconds to properly vet it three times over, they bitch when you don't open the door for them when they arrive on venue, they bitch about you not carrying their bag, they bitch when you shove their face in the floor and cover them with your own body when you're taking fire, they bitch when you make them spill their coffee because you were avoiding a suspected RCIED, they bitch when you cancel their movement because of a credible threat report, they bitch when you close their bar because of a riot going on outside your gates, they bitch when you rat them out to the RSO for being drunk and screaming at your guards, and the list can go on for pages and pages...

Fuck DoS bitches, they are the biggest pussies in the government, the most entitled elitists I've ever come across in my life who are otherwise clueless and over their heads, and one of the best laughs I've ever had was when right out of the gate the Trump administration slashed the fuck out of their budget. Just desserts would be DoD taking the same slashing of budget, starting with a 50% reduction in the officer Corps. I'm glad I don't have to deal with their bullshit any longer.

As for contractor life? I made anywhere from $350-$460/day there, pretty much tax free, so the money was decent. All I had to do for it was live in a 8x20 ft shipping container in Afghanistan for eight years, work 313-335 days a year at 12 hours a day-seven days a week and get 30-52 days of unpaid vacation (contract depending), see my kids for no more than a month a year, get a divorce, thwart a TCN guard force walkout because DoD wanted to cut their pay in half to $1000/mo while also cutting their leave to 21 days off a year, do more flesh pressing and politic playing than a presidential candidate, have an Afghan Colonel put out a hit on me that fell on deaf ears when reported, have another Afghan general execute a hit on me which killed two of my men, have another insider VBIED attack kill six of my men because DoS and DoD thought it disrespectful for us to search ANSF personnel, deal with whatever dumbass US Mil leader who is the latest to come through try to reinvent the wheel so they can lay their name to some half ass planned, quarter ass executed idea and go home with a wholly underserved Bronze Star while I and the rest of the contractors are left to clean up their mess afterwards. All the while, I got to deal with all the previously listed bullshit and buried eight of my men and another dozen severely maimed while being told an actual investigation wasn't rated because no American's were killed or wounded, while really they didn't want to admit or allow it to come to light it was their own policies that were the root cause of the attacks.

Anyone who thinks contractors are coddled, over paid and undeserving, you can suck a fat fucking cock.

I went from an overworked and underpaid contractor to an overpaid and underworked railroader. Any pipe hitters out there looking to do the same move, hit me up, they fucking love our type and spend all day trying to figure out how to spend money to keep you safe instead of DoS's way of trying to figure out how to cut your budget and get you killed.
 
Well I just saw a report about explosions at Baghdad airport. It said 4 Rockets fired. If true, I think someone is going to get spanked soon.
 
Well I just saw a report about explosions at Baghdad airport. It said 4 Rockets fired. If true, I think someone is going to get spanked soon.
Rockets at BIAP are a regular occurrence. My wife (who's also got bigger balls than the gutless male-ish staties) got so used to them there, she wouldn't even wake up half the time there was an attack. They'll only hit the news right now because the media loves the smell of blood.
 
Well I just saw a report about explosions at Baghdad airport. It said 4 Rockets fired. If true, I think someone is going to get spanked soon.


Hi,

Yep...
PMU confirm that an aircraft targeted the official of the militia, Mohammed Reda Al-Jabri, two of his companions and 3 guests on the internal road to Baghdad International Airport.

Sincerely,
Theis


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Rant mode engaged...

DoS wouldn't need WPS contractors if staties would quit being a bunch of little bitches and actually do something for themselves for once. Instead, they are the epitome of elitist .gov lovers who instead of standing up for themselves or in other any way taking action, they curl into a little ball and scream for an alpha to come same them from the bad noises, while the next day they will complain the same alpha was too rough with them while moving them to a safe haven and try to get him expelled from country.

Here's what it's like working with DoS: They bitch about locked gates, they bitch about open gates, they bitch about windowless rooms, they bitch about people with guns being visible, they bitch about the car being too hot in July and not being able to roll down the armored window, they bitch about you opening the door to check an ID inside the sally port when they refuse to properly display it, they bitch if you don't stare at their ID for fifteen seconds to properly vet it three times over, they bitch when you don't open the door for them when they arrive on venue, they bitch about you not carrying their bag, they bitch when you shove their face in the floor and cover them with your own body when you're taking fire, they bitch when you make them spill their coffee because you were avoiding a suspected RCIED, they bitch when you cancel their movement because of a credible threat report, they bitch when you close their bar because of a riot going on outside your gates, they bitch when you rat them out to the RSO for being drunk and screaming at your guards, and the list can go on for pages and pages...

Fuck DoS bitches, they are the biggest pussies in the government, the most entitled elitists I've ever come across in my life who are otherwise clueless and over their heads, and one of the best laughs I've ever had was when right out of the gate the Trump administration slashed the fuck out of their budget. Just desserts would be DoD taking the same slashing of budget, starting with a 50% reduction in the officer Corps. I'm glad I don't have to deal with their bullshit any longer.

As for contractor life? I made anywhere from $350-$460/day there, pretty much tax free, so the money was decent. All I had to do for it was live in a 8x20 ft shipping container in Afghanistan for eight years, work 313-335 days a year at 12 hours a day-seven days a week and get 30-52 days of unpaid vacation (contract depending), see my kids for no more than a month a year, get a divorce, thwart a TCN guard force walkout because DoD wanted to cut their pay in half to $1000/mo while also cutting their leave to 21 days off a year, do more flesh pressing and politic playing than a presidential candidate, have an Afghan Colonel put out a hit on me that fell on deaf ears when reported, have another Afghan general execute a hit on me which killed two of my men, have another insider VBIED attack kill six of my men because DoS and DoD thought it disrespectful for us to search ANSF personnel, deal with whatever dumbass US Mil leader who is the latest to come through try to reinvent the wheel so they can lay their name to some half ass planned, quarter ass executed idea and go home with a wholly underserved Bronze Star while I and the rest of the contractors are left to clean up their mess afterwards. All the while, I got to deal with all the previously listed bullshit and buried eight of my men and another dozen severely maimed while being told an actual investigation wasn't rated because no American's were killed or wounded, while really they didn't want to admit or allow it to come to light it was their own policies that were the root cause of the attacks.

Anyone who thinks contractors are coddled, over paid and undeserving, you can suck a fat fucking cock.

I went from an overworked and underpaid contractor to an overpaid and underworked railroader. Any pipe hitters out there looking to do the same move, hit me up, they fucking love our type and spend all day trying to figure out how to spend money to keep you safe instead of DoS's way of trying to figure out how to cut your budget and get you killed.

Preach brother! Preach! (I see shit hasn't changed much.)
 
Do they spray anything like bleach to kill the smell ?
They sure do. You get attacked in July, submit a purchase request for it, wait for your COR (contracting officer representative) to get back from their month vacation they get every 90 days, wait another month for them to approve it, order it in, wait 120 days for it to arrive, and the site manager tells you they need your guard force to shovel out the snow so they can find and disinfect the body parts that you and your guards already cleaned up, while the ants and the summer/fall/winter took care of the rest.

Again, that's contracting.
 
They sure do. You get attacked in July, submit a purchase request for it, wait for your COR (contracting officer representative) to get back from their month vacation they get every 90 days, wait another month for them to approve it, order it in, wait 120 days for it to arrive, and the site manager tells you they need your guard force to shovel out the snow so they can find and disinfect the body parts that you and your guards already cleaned up, while the ants and the summer/fall/winter took care of the rest.

Again, that's contracting.


I like to know where all the trillions go to if there only paying you guys $500 a day which with the amount of risk should be $500 per hour.
 
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I like to know where all the trillions go to if there only paying you guys $500 a day which with the amount of risk should be $500 per hour.
To be fair, it doesn’t really matter how much goes where, as long as the little guys are correctly paid on time, provided serviceable equipment, regulations are enforced, and they aren’t shit on when it comes to rotational travel.

I believe the WPS TOs are still 5 year/5 billion contract awards. As long as dudes are making their contractual day rates, it doesn’t matter where the extra zeros go.

That being said, if companies would increase day rates, they’d be able to increase standards and recruit/retain better performers. However that would mean companies would demand higher standards than what the client sets forth in the SOW... which wouldn’t make sense for them to do because “it’s all about numbers. As long as the body meets the minimum standards, it fills a hole.”

...at the same time, they need to stop being cheap and actually provide the personnel on ground with operational equipment. #YouKnowWhoYouAre
 
In the bank account of the boss who wont be seen outside the US during your contract, and that you might not know, is your boss...
Our big expenses were to DoS mandated sellers of fuel and water. We paid $50k/mo for diesel and $3 per .5L bottle of water (8 bottles daily per person, camp supported 1200 people, do the math and it will blow your mind), while they shot down time and time again our requests to put in a water purification facility to have potable water out of the taps. Our meal costs were cheap, we rated the $25/day meal plan while DoS at the embassy rated the $55/day meal plan. One can guess how well we ate in comparison to their Friday surf & turf, and still they bitched.

I remember when we were putting together our PR for new body armor, had a 240 man guard staff so it wasn't going to be cheap, but our body armor we were using was well over 10 years old and had zero capability of carrying magazines or other equipment, basically was the same blue Smurf vests that you see media wearing. The DoS response was "Does every man really need their own vest since only half are on duty at a time? They can just trade off at guard mount." I really wish I had a picture of the look on my face when they said that shit, I'd frame it and set it right next to my eight year service certificate.

Fuck DoS.
 
Our big expenses were to DoS mandated sellers of fuel and water. We paid $50k/mo for diesel and $3 per .5L bottle of water (8 bottles daily per person, camp supported 1200 people, do the math and it will blow your mind), while they shot down time and time again our requests to put in a water purification facility to have potable water out of the taps. Our meal costs were cheap, we rated the $25/day meal plan while DoS at the embassy rated the $55/day meal plan. One can guess how well we ate in comparison to their Friday surf & turf, and still they bitched.

I remember when we were putting together our PR for new body armor, had a 240 man guard staff so it wasn't going to be cheap, but our body armor we were using was well over 10 years old and had zero capability of carrying magazines or other equipment, basically was the same blue Smurf vests that you see media wearing. The DoS response was "Does every man really need their own vest since only half are on duty at a time? They can just trade off at guard mount." I really wish I had a picture of the look on my face when they said that shit, I'd frame it and set it right next to my eight year service certificate.

Fuck DoS.
yayyyy lowest bidder Award for the win!

Dude the last company I worked for was super fucked up when it came to equipment/weapon issue, vehicle serviceability, and security personnel’s performance accountability. To be fair to State, I’m sure they would terminate that TO award in about 30 seconds if the GTM looked closer and spoke with non-management personnel.

#ComplacencyKills
#ComplacencyIsACoreComponentOfTheWPSContractAwardProcess
#RIPBrainCellsLostWhileOverhearingTheGarbageThatStrapHangersSpewInTheBackseat
#NotGoingToLieTheEmbassyFoodWasAmazingAndWorthTheMealTicketPurchaseAndIEDRisk
 
Anyone with open intel on the rocket attacks tonight killing an Iranian general?

Definitely looks like the USA strikes back...
Nothing to see there. No coincidence


?????


Could be a "fuck you, we know who you are and where you are at any given time" type of thing.
 
They sure do. You get attacked in July, submit a purchase request for it, wait for your COR (contracting officer representative) to get back from their month vacation they get every 90 days, wait another month for them to approve it, order it in, wait 120 days for it to arrive, and the site manager tells you they need your guard force to shovel out the snow so they can find and disinfect the body parts that you and your guards already cleaned up, while the ants and the summer/fall/winter took care of the rest.

Again, that's contracting.
Government efficiency at it's best, amIright?
 
Yeah well ,
At least three rockets were fired at Baghdad International Airport Friday killing at least seven people, including Iranian Gen. Qassim Soleimani, the head of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' elite Quds Force, according to multiple reports early Friday.
 
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@M8541Reaper

I know they arent the same. But it is funny.

And you can compare a bit. As long as one can think outside the box and draw a few parallels or recognize similarities.

Not 100% the same and with a lesser threat in Bagdad there is a large response.
Hillary refused to do shit in the days leading up to attack when asked.
Should be Obama on there with her. I dont know how to mess with memes or I would.
She could have easily sent for more help as SoS. He certainly could have as acting Potus. POS is my official title for Obama.
 
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@M8541Reaper

I know they arent the same. But it is funny.

And you can compare a bit. As long as one can think outside the box and draw a few parallels or recognize similarities.

Not 100% the same and with a lesser threat in Bagdad there is a large response.
Hillary refused to shit in the days leading up to attack when asked.
Should be Obama on there with her. I dont know how to mess with memes or I would.
She could have easily sent for more help as SoS. He certainly could have as acting Potus. POS is my official title for Obama.
It is funny and I get why it was made. I seen a few posts and heard some peeps talk about how it’s the same but you just can’t compare em even in the slightest.

You have an attack on a minimalist footprint consulate and CIA annex and the other was an attack at the largest embassy and fortified position that’s surrounded by stacks on stacks of assets. I just can’t bring myself to begin to compare the two, other than them being USG facilities.

As for the delay/lack of delay/blaming of an individual(s), I can’t bring myself to QB it. All I can say is that mistakes were made. High threat postings are exactly that, and that’s why OGA security personnel get paid what they do (especially on that type of contract). It sucks but that’s the game. You either play it or you don’t, but someone has to.

Side ramblings:
You can’t win every battle with violence, which is one of the reasons why State exists. The cost of diplomacy means sending diplomats into hostile locations and while there, they need protection. Same goes for OGAs. To accomplish their mission, they have to work and live in those same HT areas...which requires protective assets. Just a roll of the dice in a game with no winners.
 
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@M8541Reaper

Points made.

I make decisions all day about people’s lives. I attend meetings weekly QBing my own and others decisions regarding human life.
I get it.
I should based on my faith and find it very hard to forgive Hillary and Obama for what they did (actually didnt do) Early warnings. No help sent. Should have valued those American lives more.

And yes, the guys who work those jobs know its Dangerous AF.
Doesnt mean we cant send resources if they say it is warranted.

Points are:
1) President Trump is kickin ass
2) Hillary sucks
3) Obama sucks (ask Moochelle)
4) Epstein didn't hang himself

Im off for more yoga. My chakras are all f’ed up.
 
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I can’t believe Soleimani was IN Baghdad during the attack on the embassy! I can’t believe they’re THAT stupid! I can’t believe he thought he could just drive to the airport and fly back to Terrahan!

Is Iraq now owned by Iran? Do they think Trump is so weak they can send in their top terror general and attack us under our noses?
‘This is just Fucking Crazy! What the hell were those islamofascistsfucks thinking? They really didn’t think it would be weapons free after attacking out embassy, despite what the traitorous, anti-trump media has been spinning this as?

This kind of stupid shit boggles my mind. These fucking terrorists are as stupid as common criminals. Their retardation often appears as bravery, but clearly it isn’t. They’re THAT dumb.
 
@M8541Reaper

Points made.

I make decisions all day about people’s lives. I attend meetings weekly QBing my own and others decisions regarding human life.
I get it.
I should based on my faith and find it very hard to forgive Hillary and Obama for what they did (actually didnt do) Early warnings. No help sent. Should have valued those American lives more.

And yes, the guys who work those jobs know its Dangerous AF.
Doesnt mean we cant send resources if they say it is warranted.

Points are:
1) President Trump is kickin ass
2) Hillary sucks
3) Obama sucks (ask Moochelle)
4) Epstein didn't hang himself

Im off for more yoga. My chakras are all f’ed up.

I gotcha man. Wanna hit some hot yoga and then grab tacos and beers after? I know just the place. ?

...might be dangerous if we grab tacos and beers first...?
 

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I can’t believe Soleimani was IN Baghdad during the attack on the embassy! I can’t believe they’re THAT stupid! I can’t believe he thought he could just drive to the airport and fly back to Terrahan!

Is Iraq now owned by Iran? Do they think Trump is so weak they can send in their top terror general and attack us under our noses?
‘This is just Fucking Crazy! What the hell were those islamofascistsfucks thinking? They really didn’t think it would be weapons free after attacking out embassy, despite what the traitorous, anti-trump media has been spinning this as?

This kind of stupid shit boggles my mind. These fucking terrorists are as stupid as common criminals. Their retardation often appears as bravery, but clearly it isn’t. They’re THAT dumb.

They're still used to not being hammered, rather being appeased, from 2008-2016.
 
They're still used to not being hammered, rather being appeased, from 2008-2016.
Then again dude, love or hate President Obama, the dude was making it rain drone strikes. Almost as if they were on a “use em or lose em” policy haha.

#HandingOutDroneStrikesLikeOprahGivesOutCars
#YouGetADroneStrikeYouGetADroneStrikeEveryoneGetsADroneStrike
#PlotTwistHeWasPlayingCallOfDutyAndSomeoneAccidentallyPluggedItIntoSkynet
 
Im gonna hafta have a snort of bourbon to celebrate the dead terrorist.

I just do yoga at home. Scared to bend over like that in public.....

Beers are always good.
Taco I eat at home... ?

You in Denver?
haha yea. I burned through my emergency booze because the in-laws were in town, so it’s a dry house :(

Nah dude, southern AZ.
 
Then again dude, love or hate President Obama, the dude was making it rain drone strikes. Almost as if they were on a “use em or lose em” policy haha.

#HandingOutDroneStrikesLikeOprahGivesOutCars
#YouGetADroneStrikeYouGetADroneStrikeEveryoneGetsADroneStrike
#PlotTwistHeWasPlayingCallOfDutyAndSomeoneAccidentallyPluggedItIntoSkynet

I know he was all about drones. But he was droning the periphery. Mid-level guys out in the middle of nowhere, except Bin Laden. I dont remember any other high level Alibaba, especially in the capital city of any ME country.