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Eotech Vudu X 2-12

This was not an attempt at an MPVO for people like us on the forum.

I'm sure I wasn't alone in not being aware of what the "vudu-X" and "vudu" differences were....

Anymore, I'm not so sure what "MPVO for 'us'" even means...and if that is even a remotely possible to even please the majority here. Hopefully it would be better than what this place thinks it wants in an LPVO...
 
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You'd be hard pressed to get a decent MPVO down to that weight at all, let alone with solid reliability and a locking elevation turret. The LPVO's that are regarded for reliability are generally 20oz or a little more and they've got less tube than a MPVO has. Parallax would add some more weight.

I'd think 25oz would be a reasonable goal based on some of the scopes out there, but I'm not an optical engineer.
 
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You'd be hard pressed to get a decent MPVO down to that weight at all, let alone with solid reliability and a locking elevation turret. The LPVO's that are regarded for reliability are generally 20oz or a little more and they've got less tube than a MPVO has. Parallax would add some more weight.

I'd think 25oz would be a reasonable goal based on some of the scopes out there, but I'm not an optical engineer.
24oz is my magic number...
For dimensions/specs, here's your bar:
3-18x42 with parallax and illumination and a sizeable turret that's 23.99-24.69oz

I'll even allow 2-12x and i'll skip illumination....1.5lbs is doable.
 
24oz is my magic number...
For dimensions/specs, here's your bar:
3-18x42 with parallax and illumination and a sizeable turret that's 23.99-24.69oz

I'll even allow 2-12x and i'll skip illumination....1.5lbs is doable.
Looks good to me, although it seems a bit gimmicky at first, I can see real world use in that turret setup as well. It only needs two things, FFP and a useful reticle.
 
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They could also back away from the 6/8/10+ magnification erectors trying to cram more zoom into an optic and not only make a more reliable and lighter optic, but also make one that has a much more friendly eyebox and reticles that actually work well in FFP on both ends of the range. I've never understood the need for more than 4-5x erector magnification in a FFP optic, what good is a magnification range if it's unusable?
 
They could also back away from the 6/8/10+ magnification erectors trying to cram more zoom into an optic and not only make a more reliable and lighter optic, but also make one that has a much more friendly eyebox and reticles that actually work well in FFP on both ends of the range. I've never understood the need for more than 4-5x erector magnification in a FFP optic, what good is a magnification range if it's unusable?
Said this...IDK...12+ years ago when the race for 8x LPVO superiority took S&B the course of 5 SHOT shows, 1 stolen prototype, and them breaking down the Short Dot into 3 separate models... and several posts/threads here to ask:

Why not just make what we can do (in 4,5..maybe 6x depending on who you are) in a smaller, lighter, and/or better package???

Cause I've yet to see a decent 1-10x...and paying $4k for just a "pretty good" 1-8 if fucking stupid.
I'll happily take a perfect 12oz 1-4x and 24oz 3-12x ride into the sunset.
 
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Said this...IDK...12+ years ago when the race for 8x LPVO superiority took S&B the course of 5 SHOT shows, 1 stolen prototype, and them breaking down the Short Dot into 3 separate models... and several posts/threads here to ask:

Why not just make what we can do (in 4,5..maybe 6x depending on who you are) in a smaller, lighter, and/or better package???

Cause I've yet to see a decent 1-10x...and paying $4k for just a "pretty good" 1-8 if fucking stupid.
I'll happily take a perfect 12oz 1-4x and 3-12x ride into the sunset.
Absolutely.
And I’ll take a clear and forgiving 1-4, 1-5 over a NX8 1-8 (tight eye box) or Strike Eagle/PA 1-8 (shit glass)
 
I'd be happy with a simple mil dot reticle honestly. If we're really getting crazy maybe half mil lines.

Hell of a lot more useful than a BDC or standard duplex.
 
Per eotech's website, made in Philippines.

Too bad about this one. I was really hoping we might have something here. I like the weight and dimensions but reticles, SFP, etc. No thanks.

I just sold my Athlon 2-12. Cool scope, but the overall quality left something to be desired. Most notably the actual etching of the reticle looked like complete shit when illuminated, even on lower settings. It was still totally workable and Athlon themselves said "that's how they are" and it was within their QC limits. It was disappointing and I couldn't get past it. I have seen cheaper chinese stuff from Vortex that looked far better.

I might just try another Athlon 2-12 and deal with it. Mostly run non illum anyway.
 
I have one pre-ordered from EuroOptic. A simple illuminated duplex works just fine for the 300 yards and in I shoot. That's PBR for 556. Maybe the rest of you will remember what all of those marks on your tree reticle mean should you ever need your weapon to defend life and liberty. For my uses, something with the functionality of a red dot plus magnification for target ID is all I require.
 
I completely understand the difference between the 2....but saying it is easier to say 9.7 or 33.25........This is where I disagree and say it makes no difference.
The major difference between MIL and MOA scopes is the engineering design of the same.

If you design a great 100 spline turret:

In a MIL scope with a 100 spline turret, you get 10 Mils of adjustment (10x10=100) in a single turn of 1/10 MIL (1/3 MOA) increments (34.4 MOA total for the MIL Challenged)

In a MOA scope the same 100 spline turret yields you only 25 MOA (1/4 MOA adjustments 4x25=100).

In a rev limited scope MOA adjustments severely inhibits your total reticle travel.

And yes, a 1/4 MOA adjustments are smaller than 1/3 MOA (MIL Based) but who really cares until you get to benchrest or F-Class shooting where 1/8 MOA adjustments rule the roost.
 
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