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Damn!Garmin Xero
The garmin has effectively turned Labradar into the equivalent of a sky screen chronograph from 1995.
It does everything better. I hate calling Labradar outdated junk….but it’s close now.
It's a POS compared to the Garmin. Like comparing an Atari to a ps5
Now I really feel the need to try one!Agreed. I was trying not to be so harsh. But yea, I can't even bring myself to sell the labradars we have been using.....doesn't feel right selling something that's basically junk compared to what's available.
I'd rather tell someone to go spend the extra $200 on the Garmin than take $3-400 for these antiques.
The garmin has effectively turned Labradar into the equivalent of a sky screen chronograph from 1995.
It does everything better. I hate calling Labradar outdated junk….but it’s close now.
So I shoot my rifle over my Labradar and I get 2850FPS then Shoot my rifle over a Garmin and get 2851FPS.
Wow my shooting skill level has been improved.
huh, the Labradar has been great for me for years - I use an inertial trigger for suppressors and/or noisy ranges . The firmware / app feels a bit simple but it works fine - Aiming it is a bit of a pain but I got a peep site for it that improved that - The Garmin looks great but what does it do above/beyond the Labradar?
I have a magneto speed in a wiser mount but DAMN the Garmin is slick.
My ProChrono went in the trash after I got my FX. Same would be the case if I got the Garmin. I would give my Prochrono away, but it is inaccurate 1995 sky screen technology as mentioned by RIO. I wouldn't knowingly set someone up for that POS experience compared to the FX and Garmin options. LOLIt’s probably better than my ProChrono that I use. LOL
Same here, my MagnetoSpeed V3 is very good at what it does but I put up a For Sale ad at the club yesterday to see if it will sell.Yeah, like my MagnetoSpeed but am probably going to dell it and get one of these instead.
Because it's square? LOLSame here, my MagnetoSpeed V3 is very good at what it does but I put up a For Sale ad at the club yesterday to see if it will sell.
The Garmin looks like what I've been looking for the last couple of years. Every time I look at the Labradar I walk away, the Bulletseeker seems to have issues same with the Andiscan. The FX looks pretty good but is still too similar to the LR for me.
It reminds me of a mini Labradar for some reason. Too big to be little, to little to be big. It does have a couple of features that I like though, such as the BC calculation.Because it's square? LOL
huh, the Labradar has been great for me for years - I use an inertial trigger for suppressors and/or noisy ranges . The firmware / app feels a bit simple but it works fine - Aiming it is a bit of a pain but I got a peep site for it that improved that - The Garmin looks great but what does it do above/beyond the Labradar?
You forgot better battery lifeSmaller
Simpler
Possibly (hopefully) more reliable
Better interface
Faster
Larger company with more R&D budget
Better customer service (hopefully)
Lower price
The ONLY thing the Garmin doesn't do is calculate BC downrange. But I'm willing to bet that becomes a feature down the line.
That's why I'm not dumping either of my other 2 chronos. If I had a LR, I'd dump that pile in a heartbeat. I'm so glad I never bought one. I was literally going to buy one this year, but glad I waited.I tend to keep shit that works until it fails. I figure the Garmin thing will be obsolete by the time my Magnetospeed bites the dust.
Contrary to some, I’ve had great service out of my LR using an external battery and inertia trigger for suppressors. I am looking forward to getting the Garmin I have inbound for the obvious advantages it has to offer in size and setup, but I’ll be keeping the LR for now because it has earned my trust. I quit using the MS3 the day after it arrived (after running them simultaneously for a few strings to make sure the LR gave me the same data). I’m expecting the Garmin to be a big step forward, but I’d never call my LR a pile. It has done its job faithfully (full disclosure, I never even downloaded their app due to bad reviews, so I don’t have that experience).That's why I'm not dumping either of my other 2 chronos. If I had a LR, I'd dump that pile in a heartbeat. I'm so glad I never bought one. I was literally going to buy one this year, but glad I waited.
Everyone I know that's ever owned, or still owns one...Has hated it and says it's plagued with problems since day 1. A guy at the range had one on the bench just a few weeks ago, and was bitching about it missing shots, and it's always running out of battery, and the sheer size of the unit and all the crap yo u have to carry around with it, etc... Plus, the company's attitude of "we know better than you" and won't listen to their customers about upgrading things. That will not bode well for their sales going forward.Contrary to some, I’ve had great service out of my LR using an external battery and inertia trigger for suppressors. I am looking forward to getting the Garmin I have inbound for the obvious advantages it has to offer in size and setup, but I’ll be keeping the LR for now because it has earned my trust. I quit using the MS3 the day after it arrived (after running them simultaneously for a few strings to make sure the LR gave me the same data). I’m expecting the Garmin to be a big step forward, but I’d never call my LR a pile. It has done its job faithfully (full disclosure, I never even downloaded their app due to bad reviews, so I don’t have that experience).
I get it, but that's just not been my experience. I've used mine 2-3x/wk for 7 years now and it has always just...worked. I don't shoot without it because it's just too easy not to. The recoil trigger is a must for suppressed, and the external battery is a must for even general use IMO, but other than that I've not had any problems. The only other guy I know that owns one is also happy with his.Everyone I know that's ever owned, or still owns one...Has hated it and says it's plagued with problems since day 1. A guy at the range had one on the bench just a few weeks ago, and was bitching about it missing shots, and it's always running out of battery, and the sheer size of the unit and all the crap yo u have to carry around with it, etc... Plus, the company's attitude of "we know better than you" and won't listen to their customers about upgrading things. That will not bode well for their sales going forward.
I bet you by next year, there will be a LR 2.0 coming out (if they want to stay in business) that's MUCH smaller than the original, since Speedtracker figured out how to stuff all that into a 1.5"x4" tube that bluetooths and runs from your smartphone app, and Garmin figured out how to pack all that same tech into a 3"x 3" unit with a screen on it...
As for that guy at the range, next time I see him, I'll definitely be showing him the Garmin Xero if he hasn't already seen one.![]()
I too have had good service out of my LR and have reams of solid chrono data in spreadsheets as a result.Contrary to some, I’ve had great service out of my LR using an external battery and inertia trigger for suppressors. I am looking forward to getting the Garmin I have inbound for the obvious advantages it has to offer in size and setup, but I’ll be keeping the LR for now because it has earned my trust. I quit using the MS3 the day after it arrived (after running them simultaneously for a few strings to make sure the LR gave me the same data). I’m expecting the Garmin to be a big step forward, but I’d never call my LR a pile. It has done its job faithfully (full disclosure, I never even downloaded their app due to bad reviews, so I don’t have that experience).
Hold Your Horses!
I am a long, long time Garmin user. Bike computers, bike cadence, speed, and heart rate sensors; watches; Marine GPS / chart plotters and other navigation equipment. Yes I really like Garmin products. Plus, I find their customer service to be as good as any company I have ever done business.
But NO! Don’t sell your Labradars at least not yet. We long term Garmin users know that Garmin is infamous for letting first year users do their beta testing.
If you really want the new Garmin Chrono, Get one in late 2024 when the bugs are out. Once the bugs are worked out, I think you will find the Garmin a fine piece of equipment, very capable and quite reliable. But 2023, No Way.
I like Garmin, but as my grandfather always instructed me, never purchase an item the first year it is out. He was a wise man.
That's what I have, I'll spend the money on ammo.I guess my Beta Chony has no place in this discussion. So sad.
Depends how you use your chrono. I use mine for all sorts of rifles and pistols from .22 to .357, 9mm, 6.5cm etc.That's what I have, I'll spend the money on ammo.
That's what I have, I'll spend the money on ammo.